Good News - Bad News for Steelers in Superbowl

[oneforthetoe]

First, the bad news: the team with the best QB wins; Mahomes > Allen; Mahomes > Jackson; Mahomes > Purdy. Even if Picket develops into a good too great QB, or the Steelers find another QB, the chances he will out play Mahomes are not good. He is truly the new Goat.

Good news: while defense and running the football will not win championships, they do give you a chance if you are good at it and get competent QB play. The Niners could have won the game. Take away the missed xtra point and the poor offensive execution on the last drive in regulation that resulted in the FG and left too much time on the clock, and they did have a chance.

In other words, I do think the Steelers could develop a team similar to the Niners by continuing to improve the defense, being physical and running the ball and getting competent and clutch QB play. Of course, they most likely will have to beat Mahomes.

[Steeler-in-west]

its bad news for the whole league - not just the Steelers - but watching Mahomes and Purdy play, i don't see it (KP getting to that level)

[Voice of Reason]

its bad news for the whole league - not just the Steelers - but watching Mahomes and Purdy play, i don't see it (KP getting to that level)

Mahomes is a great QB and Purdy is a good one, but I watched them both play today too and saw that after 60 minutes of football neither of them was able to produce 20 points.

[Steeler-in-west]

Mahomes is a great QB and Purdy is a good one, but I watched them both play today too and saw that after 60 minutes of football neither of them was able to produce 20 points.

Both defenses played tremendously, both QB’s did their best to navigate the pocket and find time, every completion was hard earned

[DuckHodges]

The niners should have won but they couldn’t stop shotting themselves in the balls. Missed extra point and the bone headed turnover on the punt which gave Mahomes a free TD

[86WARD]

its bad news for the whole league - not just the Steelers - but watching Mahomes and Purdy play, i don't see it (KP getting to that level)

30/32 teams won’t get to that level of QB play. It’s not easy to find a franchise QB.

[86WARD]

The niners should have won but they couldn’t stop shotting themselves in the balls. Missed extra point and the bone headed turnover on the punt which gave Mahomes a free TD

Blocked XP. That’s KC winning not SF losing. Also not a boneheaded turnover. That’s a freak accident. The ball came down on a guy blocking. Nothing you can do there except what Ray Ray tried to do.

[NCSteeler]

KC defense and special teams won this game.

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[Edman]

Brock Purdy is Last season's Jalen Hurts. An average QB who is elevated by the team around him. He played well enough to give the 49ers a shot to win but when it came down to it he lacked that extra gear to get them over the top. He led San Fran to field goals while Mahomes got the critical Touchdown.

[polamalubeast]

Brock Purdy is Last season's Jalen Hurts. An average QB who is elevated by the team around him. He played well enough to give the 49ers a shot to win but when it came down to it he lacked that extra gear to get them over the top. He led San Fran to field goals while Mahomes got the critical Touchdown.

not because you are not Patrick Mahomes mean you are just average.....We don't know the future of Purdy,how good he will become with different supporting cast but one thing is sure,you can win with him and because of him by moment like the game vs lions

Is Purdy stats are inflated because of his situation?....Yes but he is much better that Jimmy G

[Born2Steel]

Burrow could re-enter the conversation if he can find a way to stay on the field and healthy.

[tube517]

Burrow could re-enter the conversation if he can find a way to stay on the field and healthy.

Let's also see how he does when his receivers get paid and possibly leave. Can't keep all of them



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[Rocky Mtn.]

First, the bad news: the team with the best QB wins; Mahomes > Allen; Mahomes > Jackson; Mahomes > Purdy. Even if Picket develops into a good too great QB, or the Steelers find another QB, the chances he will out play Mahomes are not good. He is truly the new Goat.

Good news: while defense and running the football will not win championships, they do give you a chance if you are good at it and get competent QB play. The Niners could have won the game. Take away the missed xtra point and the poor offensive execution on the last drive in regulation that resulted in the FG and left too much time on the clock, and they did have a chance.

In other words, I do think the Steelers could develop a team similar to the Niners by continuing to improve the defense, being physical and running the ball and getting competent and clutch QB play. Of course, they most likely will have to beat Mahomes.

More good news. There is still only two in the 6 Lombardi club.

[Edman]

Is Purdy stats are inflated because of his situation?....Yes but he is much better that Jimmy G

Purdy doesn't need to be Pat Mahomes. He just needed to elevate just a little bit and the Niners are walking out as Champions. The 49ers O was missing Deebo Samuel, once again, conditions weren't absolutely perfect or near-perfect. Purdy did his part, but that was all he could do.

Purdy is Jimmy G is all but name. The good thing on him is that he is young and on a rookie deal, so the Niners could potentially run it back in 2024. But Purdy puts a strict cap on their chances unless he can step out of his shell.

[Craic]

More good news. There is still the original and only legitimate team in the 6 Lombardi club and one that cheated to get there.

FIFY.


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As for the discussion on QBs, I didn't see either QB light it up last night. Mahomes got happy feet and made a couple of bad decisions with the football, one of them costing him an INT. Purdy protected the ball but didn't light it up either.

Yes, both defenses were good but they also had their weak spots. What we saw was not two masterful teams. We saw two teams that were good and slugged it out. If we stay healthy this year (three starting linebackers on IR (Holcomb, Alexander, and Watt) that allowed the opposing offense to gash us by throwing over the heads of middle linebackers who can't cover), found a halfway decent OC, and if Pickett can stay healthy this year, there's no reason we can't find ourselves in the SB next year.

Do I think Pickett is the long term answer? Who knows. This year will tell us a lot. But we haven't seen his ceiling and I expect this year we'll see a leap in play with a new OC. But if we draft half as well as we did last year and make just one good pickup in FA, there's no reason we can't take the next step and make a run deep into the playoffs at the very least.

[oneforthetoe]

It's also important to keep in mind I think that, while it looks today like the Chiefs are going to win the next 5 Superbowl's, there is so much unpredictability out there. Not sure about when Reed will retire but it's likely to be well before Mahomes. I am also not sure Maholmes will have great late career that Brady did. Brady took care of himself and with the help of the NFL rarely took a hit. Whiles Mahomes seems to get the Brady treatment from officials, he puts his body on the line more as part of his game and I don't think he does as much yoga . Also, doesn't seem like the Chiefs have been able to consistently put together a o'line as the Pats did.

If your a Chief's fan you still have to like their future but nothing is assured.

[Born2Steel]

It's also important to keep in mind I think that, while it looks today like the Chiefs are going to win the next 5 Superbowl's, there is so much unpredictability out there. Not sure about when Reed will retire but it's likely to be well before Mahomes. I am also not sure Maholmes will have great late career that Brady did. Brady took care of himself and with the help of the NFL rarely took a hit. Whiles Mahomes seems to get the Brady treatment from officials, he puts his body on the line more as part of his game and I don't think he does as much yoga . Also, doesn't seem like the Chiefs have been able to consistently put together a o'line as the Pats did.

If your a Chief's fan you still have to like their future but nothing is assured.

Experience is also on the side of the Chiefs now. I noticed how the 49ers players were dancing in the tunnel like before a college game. The Chiefs players just walked out to the end of the tunnel like it was another work day. Being down 10-0 late in the first half wasn’t even a concern for Mahomes and co.

Back to back though. It will be a different team in 2024. May as well be us.

[Rotorhead]

Swap Purdy and KP from the start and KP is in the SB and we are in the same spot. The difference in the offensive philosophy is so completely ridiculous between Crapnada and Shanahan there is no way you can compare the two.

[Born2Steel]

Canada was/is a terrible NFL OC. Let's not let Shanahan off the hook though. He masterminded the SB letdown for the Falcons in the SB. He has now lost twice to the Chiefs in the SB. I heard today that Shanahan is 0-4 all-time vs the Chiefs. Aiyuk was mostly non-existent in that game. Deebo went out but came back, he was mostly non-existent. Had the 49ers won I think McCaffrey would have won MVP even with the fumble. But he was getting shut down too. Jauan Jennings had the game of his career in the SB, IMO, and only had 4 catches.

[Mojouw]

Experience is also on the side of the Chiefs now. I noticed how the 49ers players were dancing in the tunnel like before a college game. The Chiefs players just walked out to the end of the tunnel like it was another work day. Being down 10-0 late in the first half wasn’t even a concern for Mahomes and co.

Back to back though. It will be a different team in 2024. May as well be us.

Watching the two teams from the mid third quarter on; it was clear the 49ers players had lots of doubts. The Chiefs players looked confident and almost assured they were winning.

It was a big difference.

[El Kabong]

As dominant as Brady and the Patriots were, they didn't win the Super Bowl every year. Others teams (including us) managed to sneak in Super Bowl wins during that time. It will be possible to win the Super Bowl during the Mahomes era.

[oneforthetoe]

As dominant as Brady and the Patriots were, they didn't win the Super Bowl every year. Others teams (including us) managed to sneak in Super Bowl wins during that time. It will be possible to win the Super Bowl during the Mahomes era.

I know this will bring a sneer from some but I kind of think, all things being equal, if we were in the position SF was in in overtime, in a game against KC in the playoffs, I like our chances better. Tomlin, for all the criticism he gets (and sometimes deserves), doesn't lose leads late in games very often. His teams usually make the right decisions. Of course, for all things to be being equal, we have to stop falling behind in the first quarter of playoff games and get much better qb play.

[Voice of Reason]

Both defenses played tremendously, both QB’s did their best to navigate the pocket and find time, every completion was hard earned

Which means these QB's are not Superman. They can be stopped by good defenses.

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Blocked XP. That’s KC winning not SF losing. Also not a boneheaded turnover. That’s a freak accident. The ball came down on a guy blocking. Nothing you can do there except what Ray Ray tried to do.

Ray Ray made a basic mistake by not falling on the ball instead of trying to pick it up.

[Voice of Reason]

As for the discussion on QBs, I didn't see either QB light it up last night. Mahomes got happy feet and made a couple of bad decisions with the football, one of them costing him an INT. Purdy protected the ball but didn't light it up either.

Yes, both defenses were good but they also had their weak spots. What we saw was not two masterful teams. We saw two teams that were good and slugged it out. If we stay healthy this year (three starting linebackers on IR (Holcomb, Alexander, and Watt) that allowed the opposing offense to gash us by throwing over the heads of middle linebackers who can't cover), found a halfway decent OC, and if Pickett can stay healthy this year, there's no reason we can't find ourselves in the SB next year.

Do I think Pickett is the long term answer? Who knows. This year will tell us a lot. But we haven't seen his ceiling and I expect this year we'll see a leap in play with a new OC. But if we draft half as well as we did last year and make just one good pickup in FA, there's no reason we can't take the next step and make a run deep into the playoffs at the very least.

I agree with just about everything you said here.

[polamalubeast]

The hardest thing to beat the Chiefs in the playoffs is to close the game since Mahomes is clutch like crazy in big moment and their defense is better and better as the game advances under Spags

Shanahan and the 49ers are not the only team to have this problem...Just ask the Bills in the last few years.Overall the chiefs won 4 playoffs game by only 3 points since last year

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As for the discussion on QBs, I didn't see either QB light it up last night. Mahomes got happy feet and made a couple of bad decisions with the football, one of them costing him an INT. Purdy protected the ball but didn't light it up either.

Yes, both defenses were good but they also had their weak spots. What we saw was not two masterful teams. We saw two teams that were good and slugged it out. If we stay healthy this year (three starting linebackers on IR (Holcomb, Alexander, and Watt) that allowed the opposing offense to gash us by throwing over the heads of middle linebackers who can't cover), found a halfway decent OC, and if Pickett can stay healthy this year, there's no reason we can't find ourselves in the SB next year.

Do I think Pickett is the long term answer? Who knows. This year will tell us a lot. But we haven't seen his ceiling and I expect this year we'll see a leap in play with a new OC. But if we draft half as well as we did last year and make just one good pickup in FA, there's no reason we can't take the next step and make a run deep into the playoffs at the very least.

No way the Steelers are close right now...Pickett would need to take a massive jump for that and our defense must be much better come playoff time and against elite offense...It's hard to win in the playoffs when the defense gives 30 points(it doesn't matter which team) and the Steelers have given up 30 points or more in their last 5 playoff games....Every team has issues with injuries, which is another reason the Steelers need to improve their depth at certain positions.Very important

[86WARD]

Once you start getting down to 4th and 5th LBers…not much you can do…

[polamalubeast]

Once you start getting down to 4th and 5th LBers…not much you can do…

true and I understand last year's situation at this position....But injuries happen every year at different positions, good teams are able to overcome that better than others if you have depth

[86WARD]

true and I understand last year's situation at this position....But injuries happen every year at different positions, good teams are able to overcome that better than others if you have depth

That’s something I’ve been saying for years. They don’t really ever have “great depth”. But then I don’t know that many teams do…

[Mojouw]

I’m not sure anyone has 4+ guys depth.

A major factor in the Bills sitting at home instead of advancing in the playoffs was once they got 3-4 guys deep into their ILB depth chart it wasn’t good enough.

[Born2Steel]

None of the different issues we each see with the Steelers exists in a vacuum. There is context to all of it. Using context is not making an excuse. Injuries are an important factor week to week, and injuries during the course of a game can have a huge effect on that game.

I think most of us, 99% of us, hated both OC Canada and QB Trubisky. Both are gone now. I think that alone should give fans some renewed hope for 2024. Each season has it’s peaks and valleys.