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    QBs & the Super Bowl

    Brock Purdy
    Jared Goff
    Baker Mayfield
    Jordan Love

    One of these quarterbacks is going to the Super Bowl this year!

    With all the talk about the Steelers needing a franchise quarterback, the above list is startling.

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    Re: QBs & the Super Bowl

    The only "startling" QB on that list is Baker.

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    Lamar Jackson
    Josh Allen
    Patrick Mahomes
    C.J Stroud

    They are the 4 QBs left in the AFC and the steelers are in the AFC.....The QB position in the AFC is loaded like crazy and this is almost impossible to just win a playoffs game in the AFC without a true franchise QB who can overcome some hole in your roster


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    Re: QBs & the Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by SteeleReign View Post
    The only "startling" QB on that list is Baker.

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    Lol. That’s funny because all four of them have been QB1 on their teams for the full season. And they’re all still playing. And one is going to the Super Bowl.

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    Re: QBs & the Super Bowl

    They are all in the NFC.

    As PB pointed out the list of QBs in the AFC is a very different thing.

    Further, Purdy and Goff are backed by elite play-callers. And I think Love is potentially going to join the list of big-time QBs next year. He made a few throws in the Dallas game that were kinda hard to believe. Two of them without his feet on the ground.

    So really....Baker. And we already have Baker. We have two of them.

    I think that if you get a phenomenal play caller/designer....you can do a lot with a "lesser" QB. However...that seems to be not the case in the AFC. I mean Tua got pantsed on national TV. So who knows?

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    Love could be Aaron Rodgers 2.0, that was a Rodgers move. I don’t know why GB has all the luck with qb’s. First Favre, then Rodgers, now Love

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    Re: QBs & the Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    Lol. That’s funny because all four of them have been QB1 on their teams for the full season. And they’re all still playing. And one is going to the Super Bowl.
    I'm not startled that Love, Goff, and Purdy are considered "franchise" QBs.

    I am a bit shocked to see Baker's resurgence however.

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    Re: QBs & the Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Lamar Jackson
    Josh Allen
    Patrick Mahomes
    C.J Stroud

    They are the 4 QBs left in the AFC and the steelers are in the AFC.....The QB position in the AFC is loaded like crazy and this is almost impossible to just win a playoffs game in the AFC without a true franchise QB who can overcome some hole in your roster

    Much the same situation during Ben's career with Brady and Manning.

    If we had been stuck with Mark Sanchez or even a Carson Palmer, would we have won two Superbowls? Not likely.

    I feel that's where we are right now, except that Pickett might be worse than Mark Sanchez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteeleReign View Post
    Much the same situation during Ben's career with Brady and Manning.

    If we had been stuck with Mark Sanchez or even a Carson Palmer, would we have won two Superbowls? Not likely.

    I feel that's where we are right now, except that Pickett might be worse than Mark Sanchez.

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    From 2003 until 2018 it was Manning,Ben or Brady in the super bowl for the AFC in 15 of those years with Flacco once in 2012 when he had a all-time playoffs run....Since 2019,this is Mahomes 3 times and Burrow once in between...No matter who will be in this year,their QB will be a major reason why

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    Love could be Aaron Rodgers 2.0, that was a Rodgers move. I don’t know why GB has all the luck with qb’s. First Favre, then Rodgers, now Love
    Maybe luck but at the same time they deserve credit to develop them very well....It wasn't a sure thing that Favre, Rodgers and Love were going to become special...I still believe Favre would been much better in the 2000s if Holmgren would stay or it would been Andy Reid their head coach(who was in their staff in the Holmgren era) instead of Ray Rhodes and Mike Sherman after that

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    Re: QBs & the Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    From 2003 until 2018 it was Manning,Ben or Brady in the super bowl for the AFC in 15 of those years with Flacco once in 2012 when he had a all-time playoffs run....Since 2019,this is Mahomes 3 times and Burrow once in between...No matter who will be in this year,their QB will be a major reason why

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    Maybe luck but at the same time they deserve credit to develop them very well....It wasn't a sure thing that Favre, Rodgers and Love were going to become special...I still believe Favre would been much better in the 2000s if Holmgren would stay or it would been Andy Reid their head coach(who was in their staff in the Holmgren era) instead of Ray Rhodes and Mike Sherman after that
    Yep, with an average QB in those years, we wouldn't have won jack.

    The Steelers FO needs to look at our current QB situation in the same light, given the pile of stud QBs currently in the AFC.

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    Re: QBs & the Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    So really....Baker. And we already have Baker. We have two of them.
    I think you're either overvaluing what we have or undervaluing Baker. Or both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    I think you're either overvaluing what we have or undervaluing Baker. Or both.
    This was the least important point of his post....You can't ignore the rest of his post when he responded to what you said from the start

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    Re: QBs & the Super Bowl

    I'd take all of them over Pickett, but I'd like to have their OCs too

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    Re: QBs & the Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    This was the least important point of his post....You can't ignore the rest of his post when he responded to what you said from the start
    You mean I can't ignore your point, which you previously made. I'm not ignoring either, I just don't disagree with your point. I'm quite aware those are NFC QBs. How could I not be. It's obvious. Nevertheless, the list stands out as lacking the Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady's of the world.

    But whether you like it or not, I'm still questioning the notion that we already have two Baker Mayfield's on the team. The play caller part is TBD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    Love could be Aaron Rodgers 2.0, that was a Rodgers move. I don’t know why GB has all the luck with qb’s. First Favre, then Rodgers, now Love
    Exactly!! The throwing off the back foot or throwing with the feet in the air is totally a Favre and definitely an Aaron Rodgers thing and the accuracy blows me away! Have to have incredible arm talent to do it!

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    Re: QBs & the Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    This was the least important point of his post....You can't ignore the rest of his post when he responded to what you said from the start
    I've always been a Baker fan as I think he is underrated and in a good system he is a above average QB as long as he stays healthy

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadesOfSteel1172 View Post
    Exactly!! The throwing off the back foot or throwing with the feet in the air is totally a Favre and definitely an Aaron Rodgers thing and the accuracy blows me away! Have to have incredible arm talent to do it!

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    yeah, our Qb’s can’t do that.

    Mason can’t lift his feet off the ground
    Kenny would pull a hamstring
    and Mitch would throw it to the safety

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    yeah, our Qb’s can’t do that.

    Mason can’t lift his feet off the ground
    Kenny would pull a hamstring
    and Mitch would throw it to the safety
    Our guys definitely can't do it. It's a bad throw if they can't step into it. Especially when our line is getting pushed back into their lap

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    I hope it ends up with Baker Mayfield vs Josh Allen in the SuperBowl and we see a record 10INTs. Only scores come from either a pick6 or a FG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadesOfSteel1172 View Post
    Exactly!! The throwing off the back foot or throwing with the feet in the air is totally a Favre and definitely an Aaron Rodgers thing and the accuracy blows me away! Have to have incredible arm talent to do it!

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    Let's not get crazy about Love's performance yet. I mean in that game he had receivers so wide open there was NO one from the other team even on the TV screen when they caught it and in two accusations the receiver had to actually stop, wait for the ball, adjust their route and catch it.

    Not taking anything from Love, but a lot of his greatness was on how BAD and lost Dallas's defense looked in that game. Now if he can do it this week against San Francisco's defense then I'll be willing to mention him with Farve and Rodgers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EzraTank View Post
    Let's not get crazy about Love's performance yet. I mean in that game he had receivers so wide open there was NO one from the other team even on the TV screen when they caught it and in two accusations the receiver had to actually stop, wait for the ball, adjust their route and catch it.

    Not taking anything from Love, but a lot of his greatness was on how BAD and lost Dallas's defense looked in that game. Now if he can do it this week against San Francisco's defense then I'll be willing to mention him with Farve and Rodgers.
    True for the Dallas game but Love has been great in the last 8 regular season game,he had like 19 TD and only 1 INT and the other stats were great too

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    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    True for the Dallas game but Love has been great in the last 8 regular season game,he had like 19 TD and only 1 INT and the other stats were great too
    Agree. He's been lighting teams up for many games in a row.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    True for the Dallas game but Love has been great in the last 8 regular season game,he had like 19 TD and only 1 INT and the other stats were great too
    Oh I agree, which is why I said I don't want to take anything away. But regular season and playoffs are not the same measuring stick. As I mentioned if he can do it against the 49ers defense this week then I'll be impressed, even if they lose.

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    I was just simply implying that he has the same tendencies as Favre and Rodgers. He's a talented kid but in no way the level they were at, not yet anyway. But if he lights up San Fran then he's well on his way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadesOfSteel1172 View Post
    I was just simply implying that he has the same tendencies as Favre and Rodgers. He's a talented kid but in no way the level they were at, not yet anyway. But if he lights up San Fran then he's well on his way.
    Yeah but if he can get up there with them, that's some luck for the Packers to strike gold like that 3 times in a row.

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    Re: QBs & the Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by SteeleReign View Post
    I'm not startled that Love, Goff, and Purdy are considered "franchise" QBs.

    I am a bit shocked to see Baker's resurgence however.

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    i always thought baker was a franchise qb, Cleveland was just stupid and did him bad lol, I’m glad they got screwed on the Watson trade
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    Re: QBs & the Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by SteeleReign View Post
    I'm not startled that Love, Goff, and Purdy are considered "franchise" QBs.

    I am a bit shocked to see Baker's resurgence however.

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    I am not sure about those guys either. I have been impressed with the 49ers offense, but Purdy has been meh to me. Let's wait until we have a full season's film on Love, although he looks pretty good so far. The Lions have to do it to prove it. Not really a Goff issue with me as much as it's the Lions. I don't currently want any of those 3 QBs for the Steelers.

    I am a bit shocked that more fans aren't fans of Baker Mayfield. The guy has been a pure football player his entire career. He's thrown for over 20k yards in roughly 5 and 1/2 to 6 seasons with 130TDs. His downside to me has been turnovers, which are huge. Too many turnovers. But when you watch him those turnovers usually come from trying to make football plays, scrambling and/or throwing hero balls. I think Baker Mayfield is the ultimate backup QB. I'd love to have him backing up KP to start 2024.

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    No chance Baker will be a backup next year after the year he had in Tampa Bay....

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    Goff is an established starter and rarely makes bad decisions. Purdy and Love are a bit untested, but also benefit from fantastic offensive schemes. I think they'd both be better than what we currently have on the roster. Maybe A LOT better, or maybe just a little. Hard to say to this point.

    Baker is fine as a starting QB, I'm just surprised to see his resurgence. It felt like he was done when he left Cleveland.

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    Goff,in a very good situation is a very good QB,top 10 QB....Not in the Mahomes or Allen caliber but you can still win a super bowl with him

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