Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

[Born2Steel]

Are we really that far from contention? An new OC and a good draft (C, SS) and we’re right there, assuming KP is capable of being a good No 1,

I'm not sure how far is that far, but yes we are far from contention. We do not currently have our franchise QB. Even if KP turns into that, we do not have one today. Have we hired a new OC? Are we going outside the organization or hiring from within? Does Tomlin get an extension or go into next season as a lame duck? A good draft is key every year. We are actually further from contention right now than we were before the Bills game.

[DesertSteel]

Last time I checked, Kenny was playing very well before he got hurt and all the things that got him in trouble he wasn't doing anymore. He stopped bailing on pockets and played like late-2022 Kenny.

You got all that from 5 quarters?

[El Kabong]

I'd stay put at 20 and draft BPA regardless of position.

[Edman]

You got all that from 5 quarters?

Why not? Many wanted to ship him out of Pittsburgh after four quarters.

[oneforthetoe]

The Steelers have only drafted 20th once since 1970 per pro football reference. That pick was 1985 Mr. Darryl Simms. That's a positive thought.

[Rocky Mtn.]

Why not? Many wanted to ship him out of Pittsburgh after four quarters.

You mean 24 games don't you?

[Steeler-in-west]

The Steelers have only drafted 20th once since 1970 per pro football reference. That pick was 1985 Mr. Darryl Simms. That's a positive thought.

1985 has got to be one of the worst drafts we’ve ever had. I don’t recognize any of the names except Harry Newsome the punter

[hawaiiansteeler]

Ray Fittipaldo's Steelers chat transcript: 01.16.24

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

TJ: Austin - any reason he can't be our number 3?

Ray Fittipaldo: Eh. I don't know. I haven't seen enough from him. Maybe that's because of the OC. But I'd definitely draft a receiver in the top 3-4 rounds. They need another badly.

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/...s/202401110181

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

The Steelers have only drafted 20th once since 1970 per pro football reference. That pick was 1985 Mr. Darryl Simms. That's a positive thought.

In here I thought they drafted Pickett 20th in 2022.

[oneforthetoe]

In here I thought they drafted Pickett 20th in 2022.

Of course. That didn't come out the way I wanted it to. Just wanted to highlight Simms - which in and of itself is unnerving.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Of course. That didn't come out the way I wanted it to. Just wanted to highlight Simms - which in and of itself is unnerving.

Well they can always trade it. Go back a few spots and still probably draft the best center

[oneforthetoe]

Well they can always trade it. Go back a few spots and still probably draft the best center

I think center might be their number one need, but they might not need to draft it in the first round. It's harder to get a great ILB or CB after the first round. So, maybe draft a CB/ILB in the first and then wait for center later. They could even move back up to get a center.

[Voice of Reason]

At pick 20:
1. I'm looking at the best OL/DL on the board.

2. I'm looking at QB.

3. I'm looking box Safety/slot CB.

1. I'm looking at the best OL/DL on the board.

2. I'm looking at the best OL if we already took a DL, or the best DL if we already took an OL.

3. I'm looking at the best CB.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

I think center might be their number one need, but they might not need to draft it in the first round. It's harder to get a great ILB or CB after the first round. So, maybe draft a CB/ILB in the first and then wait for center later. They could even move back up to get a center.

I think so as well and finish the OL this draft and will help whatever lesser Qb we have starting.

[hawaiiansteeler]

definitely need to upgrade the center position:

[Steeler-in-west]

Cole was being pushed into Mason’s grill all game. We need a center at least in R2

[Edman]

You mean 24 games don't you?

I do not. Four quarters against the 49ers was all it took. I don't underestimate this town and how it treats it quarterbacks after rough games and stretches. It's not very well. Turned on Kordell. Turned on Mason. Steelers fans were ready to chuck Pickett out the door after the opening day loss.

[Hawkman]

I do not. Four quarters against the 49ers was all it took. I don't underestimate this town and how it treats it quarterbacks after rough games and stretches. It's not very well. Turned on Kordell. Turned on Mason. Steelers fans were ready to chuck Pickett out the door after the opening day loss.

….was sending death threats to Tommy Maddox.

[Rocky Mtn.]

I do not. Four quarters against the 49ers was all it took. I don't underestimate this town and how it treats it quarterbacks after rough games and stretches. It's not very well. Turned on Kordell. Turned on Mason. Steelers fans were ready to chuck Pickett out the door after the opening day loss.

How many games later he wasn't passing the eye test ,regardless of game plan. Just sayin. I'll be curious to see how much time they invest to see if he figures it out. I wish him success,after all, I'm a Steelers fan.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Steelers’ Mike Tomlin praises rookie class after first season

Mike Tomlin had kind words for the Pittsburgh Steelers rookie class.

By Jeremy Brener@JeremyBrener Jan 20, 2024

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...r-first-season

[DesertSteel]

How many games later he wasn't passing the eye test ,regardless of game plan. Just sayin. I'll be curious to see how much time they invest to see if he figures it out. I wish him success,after all, I'm a Steelers fan.

When the third stringer replaces you after you're healthy I think it's pretty clear they aren't 100% in the Kenny business.

[pczach]

When the third stringer replaces you after you're healthy I think it's pretty clear they aren't 100% in the Kenny business.

What does that really mean?

By that I mean.....what the hell would Mike Tomlin know when looking at a quarterback? The reason the team is in this situation in the first place is because Mike Tomlin doesn't know how to evaluate quarterbacks and apparently has no idea what a real NFL offense does or does not look like.

That's the guy that has been wrong about every decision involving the quarterbacks, and he is the one that made the decision you are talking about. What credibility does he have, and how does that give us any idea what the future holds for these quarterbacks?

He has been utterly and totally clueless about the quarterbacks and the entire offense in every way.

Mike Tomlin should be the last person you would want to ask about the ability of a quarterback and how to develop one. His opinion doesn't really mean anything at this point from the standpoint of knowing whether Kenny Pickett can play football well or not. He certainly has no idea.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Pavelle: A Look At The Steelers' Line And 2024 OL Draft Prospects

by Scott Pavelle
Jan 20, 2024

https://steelersdepot.com/2024/01/pa...aft-prospects/

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

When the third stringer replaces you after you're healthy I think it's pretty clear they aren't 100% in the Kenny business.

To be fair Rudy should never been the 3rd stringer and reports out of camp in 2022 he looked the best out of all of them. Neither Rudy or Kenny got a fair shake and Mitch had more opportunities then he should have had. Like a poster just mentioned, keep Tomlin far away from the offense.

[Hawkman]

To be fair Rudy should never been the 3rd stringer and reports out of camp in 2022 he looked the best out of all of them. Neither Rudy or Kenny got a fair shake and Mitch had more opportunities then he should have had. Like a poster just mentioned, keep Tomlin far away from the offense.

That was 2022, and if that were case why did no team pick him up in 2023?

[Born2Steel]

Pavelle: A Look At The Steelers' Line And 2024 OL Draft Prospects

by Scott Pavelle
Jan 20, 2024

https://steelersdepot.com/2024/01/pa...aft-prospects/

It would make me very happy if we draft an OT, and a C/G that can be depth/starter ready. Seumalo is turning 30 or 31 this year. and Daniels is only a year or 2 younger. Mason Cole has been awful. Herbig may be good for depth but apparently not at Center.

OC...Connor Williams is the highest rated Center in FA and he's going to cost north of $12M/year to get his attention. Loyd Cushenberry, maybe $7M-$9M, and Tyler Biadasz are also on the FA list, maybe looking at $10M+. I think these would be worthwhile Centers to go after and pay.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

That was 2022, and if that were case why did no team pick him up in 2023?

I know it was and other teams probably thought he was 3rd qb for a reason and didn't look into it much, it happens. Rumors beginning of 23 Hoodie was acquiring about him.

[Born2Steel]

There was a lot of TC smoke coming out on Rudolph in 2022. We had just drafted Kenny and Mitch was the big FA get. So pretty much nobody was paying any attention to any of it. I was not.

[El Kabong]

When the third stringer replaces you after you're healthy I think it's pretty clear they aren't 100% in the Kenny business.

I took that to meant that they were trying to win games to get into and advance in the playoffs and felt Mason was playing at a higher level at that time but that doesn't necessarily meant that they don't still think that Kenny has a higher ceiling than Mason and will be playing at a higher level in the future.

[Voice of Reason]

What does that really mean?

By that I mean.....what the hell would Mike Tomlin know when looking at a quarterback? The reason the team is in this situation in the first place is because Mike Tomlin doesn't know how to evaluate quarterbacks and apparently has no idea what a real NFL offense does or does not look like.

That's the guy that has been wrong about every decision involving the quarterbacks, and he is the one that made the decision you are talking about. What credibility does he have, and how does that give us any idea what the future holds for these quarterbacks?

He has been utterly and totally clueless about the quarterbacks and the entire offense in every way.

Mike Tomlin should be the last person you would want to ask about the ability of a quarterback and how to develop one. His opinion doesn't really mean anything at this point from the standpoint of knowing whether Kenny Pickett can play football well or not. He certainly has no idea.

This.