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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Voice of Reason View Post
    1. I'm looking at the best OL/DL on the board.

    2. I'm looking at the best OL if we already took a DL, or the best DL if we already took an OL.

    3. I'm looking at the best CB.
    That's the recipe for having a bad draft. lol.


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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    To be completely redundant and repetitive....

    In the 1st round you take a blue chip defensive player, a stud offensive lineman, or a hopeful franchise QB. In whichever order you prefer. Start addressing team needs in the 2nd round.

    Reaching for need at CB(Burns) and ILB(Bush) are prime examples of drafting for need only in the 1st round. Drafting RB, WR, and TE in the first round has brought us great players in the past, but is not what made those teams great.


    We currently only have 1 top50 pick, and only 3 top100 picks in this draft. I would love to see some Khan magic this draft.

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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    Cornerback Tabbed as Steelers’ Biggest Offseason Need

    January 20, 2024 By Nick Farabaugh

    As the Pittsburgh Steelers pivot towards the offseason, Omar Khan and Mike Tomlin will discuss the team’s needs. And while there are many apparent ones, such as quarterback, center, and offensive tackle, Pro Football Focus believes the most significant need comes on the defensive side of the football.

    They tabbed cornerback as the biggest need for Pittsburgh. Across from Joey Porter Jr., no certain player can slot into that spot. Patrick Peterson has experimented with moving to safety. Meanwhile, Levi Wallace is a free agent. Cory Trice and Darius Rush are young and have shown some promise, but their development is anything but certain. So, PFF has someone like Clemson cornerback Nate Wiggins making sense.

    https://steelersnow.com/pittsburgh-s...on-cornerback/

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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    That's the recipe for having a bad draft. lol.
    I am curious as to why you say that? The Parcells formula for success was always build your team from the inside out, like Linemen and then 2nd level/skill positions. Or are you saying that advocating specific positions per round is the recipe for failure?

    I think that Cam Heyward is on his last legs and a DE replacement needs to be found. I also think that the Steelers are not set at Center and could use another OT as well. Inside Linebacker is a glaring weakness too. Benton is a big upgrade at D Line, it appears that Leal and Loudermilk arent starters and both Moore and Cole are weak spots on the O line IMO.

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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    I am curious as to why you say that? The Parcells formula for success was always build your team from the inside out, like Linemen and then 2nd level/skill positions. Or are you saying that advocating specific positions per round is the recipe for failure?

    I think that Cam Heyward is on his last legs and a DE replacement needs to be found. I also think that the Steelers are not set at Center and could use another OT as well. Inside Linebacker is a glaring weakness too. Benton is a big upgrade at D Line, it appears that Leal and Loudermilk arent starters and both Moore and Cole are weak spots on the O line IMO.
    Leal has disappointed due to his lack of availability. He's only played in 23 of a possible 34 games due to injuries. I think Loudermilk is at a disadvantage somewhat due to his size. 6'7" and 300LBs puts him in a Dan McCullers category on the DL.

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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    They need to decide what they want Leal to be.

    They’ve had him yo-yo his weight. Shift roles.

    It’s been necessary but detrimental to his development.

    Loudermilk just gets pushed around too much.

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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    ILB isn’t a weakness, we had 200 injuries there and then it fell off. Our top needs are CB and OL (although the OL was playing much better later in the season), then DL. Those should be our first 3 picks and every mock draft I have seen has one of the top few CBs avaliable when we pick, if so we need that as our first pick. We can upgrade center with our second pick and DL with our third.

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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Leal has disappointed due to his lack of availability. He's only played in 23 of a possible 34 games due to injuries. I think Loudermilk is at a disadvantage somewhat due to his size. 6'7" and 300LBs puts him in a Dan McCullers category on the DL.
    McCullers was 6'8" 355lbs. Loudermilk was 6'6" at the combine and now listed at 293lbs. The 60 lb difference is a wide gap to compare. Loudermilk is basically Cam Heyward size with 1/10th the production.

    Steelers still need to get better and younger on the D line.

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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    McCullers was 6'8" 355lbs. Loudermilk was 6'6" at the combine and now listed at 293lbs. The 60 lb difference is a wide gap to compare. Loudermilk is basically Cam Heyward size with 1/10th the production.

    Steelers still need to get better and younger on the D line.
    One of those things that depends on which site you look at. Either way, at 6’6” or 6’7” on the DL is a disadvantage in our 3-4 scheme. Works for Calais Campbell I guess.

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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    One of those things that depends on which site you look at. Either way, at 6’6” or 6’7” on the DL is a disadvantage in our 3-4 scheme. Works for Calais Campbell I guess.
    I dont think the height is a detractor. He just isnt strong enough at the point of attack in the run game, nor have the quickness and hand skills to get anywhere in the pass rush, nor push the pocket.

    Steelers still need another young D linemen to plan for when Cam retires in a year, maybe 2.

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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    Mel Kiper Jr's Mock Draft 1.0 | First Draft


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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    The Steelers should get some insight on O line prospects. Steelers assistant O line coach Isaac Williams to be O line coach for American Team at Reese's Senior Bowl


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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    Graham Barton OL Duke 6'5"-314, 32-5/8" arms. A C/G prospect, maybe best all-around OL in the draft.

    Christian Mahogany OG BC 6'3"-322, An OG prospect that I had on watch last pre-draft but he returned for his senior year.

    Both of these prospects should be early round considerations and fill needs the Steelers have.

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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Graham Barton OL Duke 6'5"-314, 32-5/8" arms. A C/G prospect, maybe best all-around OL in the draft.

    Christian Mahogany OG BC 6'3"-322, An OG prospect that I had on watch last pre-draft but he returned for his senior year.

    Both of these prospects should be early round considerations and fill needs the Steelers have.
    Agreed, Barton could solve the Center situation for sure. Another option that my be around in the 2nd would be Jackson Powers-Johnson from Oregon. 6'3" 320 and current Rimmington award winner. JPJ will be at the Senior Bowl, so Williams will have a good look at him I am sure.

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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    Mel Kiper NFL Mock Draft 1.0: Steelers go cornerback in Round 1

    The NFL Draft expert released his first mock draft of the season Tuesday.

    By Kate Magdziuk Jan 23, 2024

    NFL Draft expert Mel Kiper of ESPN has officially released his first 2024 NFL mock draft of the year, projecting picks for each of the 32 NFL teams in Round 1 — for now, without any projected trades.

    At pick No. 20, Kiper had the Pittsburgh Steelers selecting cornerback Kamari Lassiter of Georgia.

    to read more:

    https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...gia-cornerback

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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    Steelers very interested in Texas A&M ILB Edgerrin Cooper

    https://steelersdepot.com/2024/01/st...ooper-he-says/

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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    This article is why many of us do eye rolls whenever we see Steelers Depot being quoted. This is a literal regurgitation of PFF with zero thought or originality or effort put into it.

    https://steelersdepot.com/2024/01/st...nsive-tackles/

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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    This article is why many of us do eye rolls whenever we see Steelers Depot being quoted. This is a literal regurgitation of PFF with zero thought or originality or effort put into it.

    https://steelersdepot.com/2024/01/st...nsive-tackles/
    Yes and now. They have a summary of why the author thinks they graded as they do and characterizes the pros and cons of each player.

    It would’ve been FAR better as a detailed film clip supported breakdown. They have people on the site who seem to be capable of doing that.

    I suspect it is the pressure to create content every day to keep the page views high so the site is free. Leads to fluff/filler.

    Honestly, they’ve also taken a negative slant with their headline writing lately. I suspect this is to drive engagement with fans. But it’s a turnoff. For instance, they’ve gone from Dotson being a poor scheme fit and it’s a good idea for both team and player to part ways to the Steelers having a fundamental evaluation problem because Dotson succeed in another scheme. They’ve basically contradicted themselves to drive a narrative.

    But those ad dollars only come in based on click counts. And anger drives engagement.

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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    Yeah SD feels the need to generate 15 “articles” a day during the offseason. What’s that? Ben made a tweet? Let’s parse that into 6 articles. I usually scan it for the quotation marks and read the one sentence and I’m done.

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    Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    VERY rarely is there an original article on SteelersDepot.

    It’s all just regurgitated material that sometimes consists of an opinion but mostly not and is never proofread.


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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    I’d rather they did like 6 articles a week and we had to pay for it.

    The pressure to get content out just drowns everything in nonsense.

    It’s not really their fault. It’s why almost all these sites either go subscription or just exist to repeat Twitter.

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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    No way I’d pay for Matthew Marchisuck or any of those writers “articles”.


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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    No way I’d pay for Matthew Marchisuck or any of those writers “articles”.
    he was one of the most annoying posters ever.

    whenever he got mad he would CAPITALIZE everything.

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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    he was one of the most annoying posters ever.

    whenever he got mad he would CAPITALIZE everything.


    THAT'S SO STUPID!!!

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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    No way I’d pay for Matthew Marchisuck or any of those writers “articles”.
    Working on the assumption that he’s out in my hypothetical subscription site.

    It’s be just Alex K and the few others who seem to have thoughts combined with knowledge doing like an article a week with film clips and specific breakdowns.

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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Working on the assumption that he’s out in my hypothetical subscription site.

    It’s be just Alex K and the few others who seem to have thoughts combined with knowledge doing like an article a week with film clips and specific breakdowns.
    They’d be better off with just a film breakdown site and stop with the “articles”. Alex’ “articles@ are just more of the same regurgitation.


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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    They’d be better off with just a film breakdown site and stop with the “articles”. Alex’ “articles@ are just more of the same regurgitation.
    We’re saying the same thing. I just used the word articles far too broadly.

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    Re: Steelers are picking at #20 in the Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    We’re saying the same thing. I just used the word articles far too broadly.


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