2024 Draft Prospects and Early Mocks

[Born2Steel]

Watching Caleb Williams reminds me a lot of Mahomes. Every SB for the next 5-10 years will be Chiefs vs Bears.

[Born2Steel]

https://steelersdepot.com/2024/04/st...s-preferences/

Great article on probable OL targets for the Steelers in this draft.

[Born2Steel]

Oklahoma RT prospect Tyler Guyton. 6'8"-322, 9.74/10 RAS, 22yrs old.

Senior Bowl reps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9oyqnqDNms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFJbJKTPhoM

vs Texas, all pass pro snaps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA02N1Chw2w

vs OkState: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEjoGs2jdI0

vs Kansas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46nerh3FWMo

Keep in mind Guyton has only played 30 games at OT. He looks like a natural RT to me.

[86WARD]

Here’s to a repeat…

This class would kinda fit the needs of 2024…kinda…lol

[Born2Steel]

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...ry-concussions

This article makes me think Graham Barton will be our pick even more. JPJ injury history is moving him down draft boards.

[DesertSteel]

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...ry-concussions

This article makes me think Graham Barton will be our pick even more. JPJ injury history is moving him down draft boards.

Good. Maybe they can get him in R2.

[Born2Steel]

https://steelersnow.com/could-troy-f...-for-steelers/

Listed everywhere as a LT, Troy Fautanu plays all 5 OL positions.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

https://steelersnow.com/could-troy-f...-for-steelers/

Listed everywhere as a LT, Troy Fautanu plays all 5 OL positions.

I think Fautanu will be gone by the tine the Steelers pick and he can play at T or G, but if Talise Fuaga is there and the Steelers are on the clock, I say run to the podium. He will be dominant at RT and possibly athletic enough to play LT, but you can just plug him in at RT and hopefully Jones has put in the work to be the LT.

[Born2Steel]

I think Fautanu will be gone by the tine the Steelers pick and he can play at T or G, but if Talise Fuaga is there and the Steelers are on the clock, I say run to the podium. He will be dominant at RT and possibly athletic enough to play LT, but you can just plug him in at RT and hopefully Jones has put in the work to be the LT.

I don’t like locking in on just one player for the first round, but I keep coming back around to Graham Barton.

OTs Guyton and Paul really stick out too as guys I hope fall to the 2nd pick.

[Born2Steel]

Tanor Bortolini Center Wisconsin, 6'4"-303. 9.98 RAS.

We know how much we love our Wisconsin Badgers. Here is one that is an under-rated uber-athletic Center. Rated as low as 6th round. This has Tomlin target all over it.

First a highlight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wfoFXT9Ylw

An absolute technician.

SeniorBowl breakdown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GEMb9USYQg

vs Iowa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcF2C8K0G2k

Not sure who this is, just more info: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ljhQecAb3A

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I don’t like locking in on just one player for the first round, but I keep coming back around to Graham Barton.

OTs Guyton and Paul really stick out too as guys I hope fall to the 2nd pick.

I hear ya. Guyton to me has all the impressive athletic traits, but seems thin in the lower body and doesnt rely on leg strength in pass protection as much. He can get his weight forward, which NFL rushers are gonna push-pull that like crazy. I would rather somebody else drafts him.

Fuaga is just a naturally large young man, with thick frame and finishes with a nasty edge to him. He will bend his knees in pass protection and anchor well, so its tough to bull rush him, but has such size that its trying to go around a '72 Chrysler New Yorker if they speed rush.

I still like what I see in Christian Jones from Texas in later rounds at OT. Bottom line is there are a lot of good interior linemen and OT's in the draft for the Steelers to help the roster.

[Dwinsgames]

Roger Rosengarten from washington is a guy who is really IMO under hyped
Height: 6 - 5 | Weight: 308 lbs | RAS: 9.19 .. many years he would be considered a fringe 1st round tackle and most have him going late 3rd

[Born2Steel]

Roger Rosengarten from washington is a guy who is really IMO under hyped
Height: 6 - 5 | Weight: 308 lbs | RAS: 9.19 .. many years he would be considered a fringe 1st round tackle and most have him going late 3rd

From what I can find on him, Rosengarten is very athletic but also very slim for an OT. He'll need time in the weight room and at the dinner table. Not so much to put on weight but to bulk up a bit and add strength. Everything I read says he has huge potential but it will take some time before he's ready for the NFL. But all it takes is 1 team....

[Dwinsgames]

From what I can find on him, Rosengarten is very athletic but also very slim for an OT. He'll need time in the weight room and at the dinner table. Not so much to put on weight but to bulk up a bit and add strength. Everything I read says he has huge potential but it will take some time before he's ready for the NFL. But all it takes is 1 team....

I guess he is slim for 308 or as slim as one can be ... is super athletic

[Born2Steel]

I guess he is slim for 308 or as slim as one can be ... is super athletic

Right!? How slim is 308? I went to 3 sources and they all spoke to him needing to add mass and strength. The old school OL guys that do podcasts and such nowadays have often mentioned having an off-season weight and an in-season weight. How they will add bulk and mass for the season and then trim back down during the off-season. Maybe they are referring to something more in line with this? When I watch clips of Rosengarten and/or Fautanu at Washington, they use their OTs on the move a lot. So maybe they needed to stay more 'svelt' and agile.

[Born2Steel]

Time to try to figure out my final mock over the next week and a half. Here is my latest attempt.

1. Nate Wiggins CB Clemson - With JPJr playing the big physical CB on the other side, Wiggins can play the more finesse CB.
2. Patrick Paul OT Houston - Just a massive man child that can use a red-shirt season before moving into place at LT or RT in 2025.
3a. Maason Smith DT LSU - Freakishly gifted DT that needs time in the weight room to reach his full potential. Ceiling, think Stephon Tuitt.
3b. Jaylon Ford ILB Texas - Fast. Great tackler. This guys closing speed and ability to tackle in space is truly fun to watch.
4. Beaux Limmer C Arkansas - High football IQ with nearly 3k snaps.
6a. Cornelius Johnson WR Michigan - X-WR, 6'3"-212, 4.44/40, 37.5 vert.
6b. Jordan Whittington WR Texas - 6'1"-205 Slot WR. 4.47/40

[Dwinsgames]

Time to try to figure out my final mock over the next week and a half. Here is my latest attempt.

1. Nate Wiggins CB Clemson - With JPJr playing the big physical CB on the other side, Wiggins can play the more finesse CB.
2. Patrick Paul OT Houston - Just a massive man child that can use a red-shirt season before moving into place at LT or RT in 2025.
3a. Maason Smith DT LSU - Freakishly gifted DT that needs time in the weight room to reach his full potential. Ceiling, think Stephon Tuitt.
3b. Jaylon Ford ILB Texas - Fast. Great tackler. This guys closing speed and ability to tackle in space is truly fun to watch.
4. Beaux Limmer C Arkansas - High football IQ with nearly 3k snaps.
6a. Cornelius Johnson WR Michigan - X-WR, 6'3"-212, 4.44/40, 37.5 vert.
6b. Jordan Whittington WR Texas - 6'1"-205 Slot WR. 4.47/40

would be a nice haul

[Born2Steel]

Jaylen Harrell 6’4”-250 DE for Michigan. 4.68/40.

You guys remember Tomlin's first draft where he took Timmons and made him an ILB. I think Harrell could do the same. Not posting highlights but suggest take a look at his similarity to Timmons in college. If he’s there in the 6th…

[Dwinsgames]

looks like he is gaining more traction in NFL circles ... latest Reuter 7-Round mock



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Mims was still on the board too as was Morgan

[Born2Steel]

looks like he is gaining more traction in NFL circles ... latest Reuter 7-Round mock



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Mims was still on the board too as was Morgan

I think the 1st round is going to see a lot of QBs and OL picked. None of the names would really shock me. The teams that have already been successful with OL and have a QB are going to have their pick of WRs and DBs.

[Mojouw]

Interesting mocks.

I’m struggling with getting behind a first round pick that has to dramatically change positions.

If you want a center, just draft one.

Maybe I’m unfairly painting Barton with a Kendrick Green shaped brush.

[cubanstogie]

Interesting mocks.

I’m struggling with getting behind a first round pick that has to dramatically change positions.

If you want a center, just draft one.

Maybe I’m unfairly painting Barton with a Kendrick Green shaped brush.

The way I look at it he was a center freshman year. Due to being best o lineman on team moved to Tackle. It’s like in baseball, best player always plays shortstop when younger and move to 2b or 3B when playing with better players as they progress. But hey if there’s a true Center who’s better I’m all for it.

[Born2Steel]

Interesting mocks.

I’m struggling with getting behind a first round pick that has to dramatically change positions.

If you want a center, just draft one.

Maybe I’m unfairly painting Barton with a Kendrick Green shaped brush.

JPJ also only played 1 year at Center. My only issue with JPJ being the pick at 20 is injury history(Hips and Knees reported, concussions unreported). He is still considered top1-2 Center prospect by the scouting sites.

Beaux Limmer was a HS OT. Played LG, RG, and Center for Arkansas. Played only Center his Senior year.

Hunter Nourzad played RT at Cornell before transferring to PSU. Played OG and OC for PSU. 8starts at Center.

Zach Frazier started at WV as a LG. Moved to Center for the '21 season, stayed at Center. He has been rehabbing a fibula fracture since November.

Sedric Van Pran started 43 games at Center for Georgia. No reports on why but he has been mostly a no-show for the pre-draft workouts and evals.

Tanor Bortolini played a total of 15 games at Center for Wisconsin. Before that he played both OG spots and RT.

Drake Nugent started 37games at Center for Michigan.

Mason McCormick was brought in for a visit. He has no snaps at Center but played both OG spots for SDSU.

Will Putnam played 58 games for Clemson, the last 25 at Center, RG before that.

Darrion Dalcourt played his first 28 games for Bama at Center, then moved to RG.

I only wrote up on these guys since they are either players that came in for visits, the 'powers' went to their pro-day, or are rated top 10 Center prospects for this class. OR a combination of those things. I left off Barton out because you have already looked into him, by your post.

[Dwinsgames]

Interesting mocks.

I’m struggling with getting behind a first round pick that has to dramatically change positions.

If you want a center, just draft one.

Maybe I’m unfairly painting Barton with a Kendrick Green shaped brush.

while I believe Barton is a whole different situation than KG , it still creates some pause when I think about the fact he only has about 150 snaps more in college at Center than KG did .... experience is a thing even if you looked really good doing it ...

[Dwinsgames]

JPJ also only played 1 year at Center. My only issue with JPJ being the pick at 20 is injury history(Hips and Knees reported, concussions unreported). He is still considered top1-2 Center prospect by the scouting sites.

Beaux Limmer was a HS OT. Played LG, RG, and Center for Arkansas. Played only Center his Senior year.

Hunter Nourzad played RT at Cornell before transferring to PSU. Played OG and OC for PSU. 8starts at Center.

Zach Frazier started at WV as a LG. Moved to Center for the '21 season, stayed at Center. He has been rehabbing a fibula fracture since November.

Sedric Van Pran started 43 games at Center for Georgia. No reports on why but he has been mostly a no-show for the pre-draft workouts and evals.

Tanor Bortolini played a total of 15 games at Center for Wisconsin. Before that he played both OG spots and RT.

Drake Nugent started 37games at Center for Michigan.

Mason McCormick was brought in for a visit. He has no snaps at Center but played both OG spots for SDSU.

Will Putnam played 58 games for Clemson, the last 25 at Center, RG before that.

Darrion Dalcourt played his first 28 games for Bama at Center, then moved to RG.

I only wrote up on these guys since they are either players that came in for visits, the 'powers' went to their pro-day, or are rated top 10 Center prospects for this class. OR a combination of those things. I left off Barton out because you have already looked into him, by your post.

I like some of these guys a lot but I also fear them .... that is why I am squarely in the Frazier camp if drafting a center in the first 2 rounds... anyone other than Frazier I want a true center plan B and we dont currently have one on the roster

[Mojouw]

I might be overthinking things, but most of the positive scouting reports I read talk about Barton's versatility and effort. OK. But I'm not drafting a guy in the first round to be versatile and try hard. Spencer Anderson can do that and he was drafted later.

I'm drafting a first rounder to come in and dominate. These don't read like Barton is that guy:

https://firstroundmock.com/2024/04/g...on-isnt-elite/

https://www.thehuddlereport.com/blog/?p=4033

I'm not saying Barton can't be successful but those don't read like a round 1 guy.

But I also buy the Mims hype, so what do I know?

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[Born2Steel]

I like some of these guys a lot but I also fear them .... that is why I am squarely in the Frazier camp if drafting a center in the first 2 rounds... anyone other than Frazier I want a true center plan B and we dont currently have one on the roster

I am good with Frazier or Van Pran. JPJ will only be drafted early if he passes the physicals I'm thinking. Limmer could sneak into day2 as well.

[Born2Steel]

I see Graham Barton as this draft's Cody Mauck. 2023 48th overall pick by the TB Buccs. He tested well, played all the OL positions, had the 'it' factor coaches and team execs look for, etc...he is currently their starting RG.

[Dwinsgames]

I am good with Frazier or Van Pran. JPJ will only be drafted early if he passes the physicals I'm thinking. Limmer could sneak into day2 as well.

I am concerned with Van Prans shorter arms , I love his play , he over comes his arm length in college but can he do it in the AFC north in the cold?

maybe we find out ??

[Born2Steel]

1. Nate Wiggins CB
2. Junior Colson ILB
3a. Sedric Van Pran Granger OC
3b. Brenden Rice WR
4. Maason Smith DT
6a. Joe Milton QB
6b. Miyan Williams RB