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    Re: Has Mason Rudolph Been Given A Fair Shot To Play/Start?

    If Kenny isn’t 100% I think Rudolph will start in Seattle next week

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    Great performance by Mason tonight.

    When Rudolph put his head down and got that first down that led to a touchdown, it confirmed that Trubisky needs to not be here anymore.

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    Had Trustinky been benched after his first loss, we probably are 10-5 right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EzraTank View Post
    Had Trustinky been benched after his first loss, we probably are 10-5 right now.

    The Trubisky that killed Christmas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EzraTank View Post
    Had Trustinky been benched after his first loss, we probably are 10-5 right now.
    I was thinking this exact same thing, he should have been gone with Canada after Canada’s first season

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    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    The Tomlin/ Trubisky that killed Christmas!
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    Re: Has Mason Rudolph Been Given A Fair Shot To Play/Start?

    Mason Rudolph glows in Steelers blowout vs. Bengals

    JOE RUTTER | Saturday, Dec. 23, 2023

    https://triblive.com/sports/mason-ru...ut-vs-bengals/

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    Re: Has Mason Rudolph Been Given A Fair Shot To Play/Start?

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    I think maybe Rudolph has gotten to that point in his career that he is that veteran back up QB that we’ve been clamoring for over the last Ben years?

    Don't get me wrong, Mason Rudolph played very well. The problem is trying to really be able to identify and gauge what this performance means. The Bengals have been owned by the Steelers in two games. The Bengals coaches have no idea how to defend the Steelers, and the Steelers have found the looks that give Browning all kinds of problems and expose his weaknesses. They simply gave the look of man coverage and then came with zone, and Browing was just throwing the ball to defenders he didn't even see because he thought they were in man. He looked like a rookie in his first game tonight.

    Seeing that game plan that the Bengals had on defense was even more puzzling. I know they lost Reader last week, and he was the real force on that defensive line that could really give problems in the run game. Not having him on the DL gave the offense a 2-way go because they couldn't stop the run or the pass. Whoever thought covering George Pickens in single man coverage for most of the game is going to be a pinata to the fans. The book on the Steelers is to double Pickens on every play, and they can't score points. It has worked all year. So what do the Bengals do? They let Pickens destroy them and give Rudolph all those opportunities to feel comfortable making those throws. That was a horrible game plan, and the Steelers and Mason Rudolph took full advantage.

    I think this is finally the end of Mitch Trubisky as the #2, and it may be the end of him with the Steelers. The effort on the run Rudolph made for the first down near the goal line ended Mitch Trubisky ever being taken seriously again. That's how you play with heart, and that's how you play to win. There couldn't be a more stark contrast between the two quarterbacks in that moment.

    Now, I know Rudolph looked really good, but the Bengals game plan and execution was atrocious. It was probably a combination of both good play by Rudolph and the Bengals just being bad.

    Also, the Steelers game plan and play calling was good, and the offensive line was opening holes all game and they gave Rudolph plenty of time to throw the ball. This is what it is supposed to look like when an opponent fails to put a competent game plan together, the have the number of the opposing young QB, and the defense they are playing against has no answers for what you are doing because they miscalculated the way the Steelers would attack them, and they ignored everything that all other defenses have had success doing to shut down the offense all season.

    Great job out of Mason Rudolph, the OL, and the entire team tonight. They looked like a very good NFL team that was playing for their coach and a team trying to find themselves and restore their pride. It's only one game, but they showed what could be tonight against at team that was asking for a beating. But they gave them that beating....and that's a good way to start down the right path.

    Let's see where they go from here.

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    Our offense has looked great vs the Bengals in 2 games.. but the next week will let us know if Mason is legit.

    Really makes you wonder what Tomlin and company saw in Mitch. It feels like Tomlin put his personal feelings ahead of the team. How in the hell did anyone on this staff have Mitch as a captain and the starter last year?

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    Re: Has Mason Rudolph Been Given A Fair Shot To Play/Start?

    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    Our offense has looked great vs the Bengals in 2 games.. but the next week will let us know if Mason is legit.

    Really makes you wonder what Tomlin and company saw in Mitch. It feels like Tomlin put his personal feelings ahead of the team. How in the hell did anyone on this staff have Mitch as a captain and the starter last year?
    Easy, Mason absolutely sucked in most of the opportunities he got, especially his first year. No way he should have ranked ahead of Mitch at the beginning of last year or even this year. Now? That's a different story . . . if Mason puts together a good game next week (if he plays). He played very well today. But we all know the history of Mason as well. I am not going to be confident with him behind center until he can put together two or three games in a row like this.


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    He’s still shit but with that said still better than trubitchsky
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    Quote Originally Posted by EzraTank View Post
    Had Trustinky been benched after his first loss, we probably are 10-5 right now.
    Tomlin's love affair with Trubisky hurt the team almost as much as his love affair with Canada.

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    Re: Has Mason Rudolph Been Given A Fair Shot To Play/Start?

    The one major thing I noticed was Mason moved a little in the pocket and he was able to throw with full,range of motion. So many times in the past he would just stand in the pocket like a statue and then throw the ball with 1/2 to 3/4 arm movement.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    The one major thing I noticed was Mason moved a little in the pocket and he was able to throw with full,range of motion. So many times in the past he would just stand in the pocket like a statue and then throw the ball with 1/2 to 3/4 arm movement.


    The interior offensive line was excellent in this game, including Cole. Rudolph had room to step up and throw all night. Even on the sack, Moore had his man blocked. Rudolph inexplicably moved to his left, directly into the defender and sacked himself! Man, the pocket was clean tonight. Clearly the best performance the OL has had in pass protection all season. Rudolph always had room to move around and step into his throws.

    It was great to see the OL play like that. It makes you wonder what could have been if they had played closer to that level for most of the season. In any case, let's hope they found themselves a bit. I know the Bengals were a depleted defense, but it's a great start and I'll take it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    The interior offensive line was excellent in this game, including Cole. Rudolph had room to step up and throw all night. Even on the sack, Moore had his man blocked. Rudolph inexplicably moved to his right, directly into the defender and sacked himself! Man, the pocket was clean tonight. Clearly the best performance the OL has had in pass protection all season. Rudolph always had room to move around and step into his throws.

    It was great to see the OL play like that. It makes you wonder what could have been if they had played closer to that level for most of the season. In any case, let's hope they found themselves a bit. I know the Bengals were a depleted defense, but it's a great start and I'll take it.
    Progress and something to build on. The "hold" on Moore on that one call was bullshit too. It was far, far, FAR from what was going on against Watt. There was one play where the LT had both arms around Watt like he was hugging him, for seconds and there was no flag. I don't think there is an way to hold more than that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Progress and something to build on. The "hold" on Moore on that one call was bullshit too. It was far, far, FAR from what was going on against Watt. There was one play where the LT had both arms around Watt like he was hugging him, for seconds and there was no flag. I don't think there is an way to hold more than that.

    The sad fact is that if the officials didn't allow offensive tackles to hold, the elite pass rushers in the NFL would be unstoppable.

    If the offensive tackles playing against Watt were called for every holding penalty, the Steelers' opponents would be punting from their own end zone every drive, and Watt would probably have 50 sacks a season.

    It's frustrating. They make rules to allow quarterbacks and offenses to put up ridiculous numbers, but they won't enforce rules on OT's blocking elite pass rushers so the offenses can put up ridiculous numbers. Ahhhhhh, the NFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    The sad fact is that if the officials didn't allow offensive tackles to hold, the elite pass rushers in the NFL would be unstoppable.

    If the offensive tackles playing against Watt were called for every holding penalty, the Steelers' opponents would be punting from their own end zone every drive, and Watt would probably have 50 sacks a season.

    It's frustrating. They make rules to allow quarterbacks and offenses to put up ridiculous numbers, but they won't enforce rules on OT's blocking elite pass rushers so the offenses can put up ridiculous numbers. Ahhhhhh, the NFL.
    But the hugging...that should probably be called...lol


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    We all want to see what he does next week. Maybe Austin can get more targets along with the TEs.

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    Re: Has Mason Rudolph Been Given A Fair Shot To Play/Start?

    Steelers' Mason Rudolph praises Jesus Christ after delivering huge win

    Rudolph said he leaned on his faith in 'dark times'

    Published December 24, 2023

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/steel...get-dark-times

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    Nope. He never will get that chance. They will keep wasting time on Pickett
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    Nope. He never will get that chance. They will keep wasting time on Pickett


    Do you think Rudolph is better than Kenny Pickett ever will be?

    You don't think Rudolph ever had a chance over 5 seasons? With no Big Ben, the Duck was just too talented for him to overcome?

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    Re: Has Mason Rudolph Been Given A Fair Shot To Play/Start?

    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    Do you think Rudolph is better than Kenny Pickett ever will be?

    You don't think Rudolph ever had a chance over 5 seasons? With no Big Ben, the Duck was just too talented for him to overcome?
    You think the endless number of chances Rudolph got was enough? They should give him a ton more chances and just let Pickett (who, visually, is much better) rot on the bench and not get any chances. This way we can start a Pickett didn’t get a fair chance thread.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    You think the endless number of chances Rudolph got was enough? They should give him a ton more chances and just let Pickett (who, visually, is much better) rot on the bench and not get any chances. This way we can start a Pickett didn’t get a fair chance thread.
    Maybe it was a one trick wonder,but Pickett isn't visually better than Saturday's Rudolph was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    The sad fact is that if the officials didn't allow offensive tackles to hold, the elite pass rushers in the NFL would be unstoppable.

    If the offensive tackles playing against Watt were called for every holding penalty, the Steelers' opponents would be punting from their own end zone every drive, and Watt would probably have 50 sacks a season.

    It's frustrating. They make rules to allow quarterbacks and offenses to put up ridiculous numbers, but they won't enforce rules on OT's blocking elite pass rushers so the offenses can put up ridiculous numbers. Ahhhhhh, the NFL.
    You could set your clock to James Harrison being held. He was like Tyson coming up through the boxing ranks .Bull of an unstoppable man.

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    I still believe KP could be a very good QB, I’m just glad MR came through for this game, always thought he was unfairly maligned by many of us. I don’t think it’s a one game fluke at all, now we have two capable QB’s and if there’s a controversy so much the better. They’ll push each other and the Steelers can spend more energy on other positions

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    Quote Originally Posted by feltdizz View Post
    Our offense has looked great vs the Bengals in 2 games.. but the next week will let us know if Mason is legit.

    Really makes you wonder what Tomlin and company saw in Mitch. It feels like Tomlin put his personal feelings ahead of the team. How in the hell did anyone on this staff have Mitch as a captain and the starter last year?
    This . After hanging 34, let's see what Mason can do against Seattle. Will Tomlin "hang nuts" again with the slim to none playoff chances or was that just a one game deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky Mtn. View Post
    Maybe it was a one trick wonder,but Pickett isn't visually better than Saturday's Rudolph was.
    But he was. Take both Bengals game and Pickett was visually better.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    But he was. Take both Bengals game and Pickett was visually better.

    Who put the points on the board? There's your visual.Did you watch Saturday's game? Screw the PFF technical crap. Mason played great and put up twice the points,which is the visual I'm looking for. Especially since there was nothing flukey about it. If that had been the case then maybe rethink. I say start Rudolph against Seattle if Tomlin is truly going to hang nuts ,so to speak.I'll take the points to go with the visual.Just my opinion,which the Steelers couldn't care less about,so we'll see. If Mason starts and stinks,I guess they'd be losing their razor thin playoff chances,which actually will have been lost by getting spanked by the two ducks at home recently. Also ,if Kenny starts then there needs to be the visual of points going on the board. More than his abysmal average that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky Mtn. View Post
    Who put the points on the board? There's your visual.Did you watch Saturday's game? Screw the PFF technical crap. Mason played great and put up twice the points,which is the visual I'm looking for. Especially since there was nothing flukey about it. If that had been the case then maybe rethink. I say start Rudolph against Seattle if Tomlin is truly going to hang nuts ,so to speak.I'll take the points to go with the visual.Just my opinion,which the Steelers couldn't care less about,so we'll see. If Mason starts and stinks,I guess they'd be losing their razor thin playoff chances,which actually will have been lost by getting spanked by the two ducks at home recently. Also ,if Kenny starts then there needs to be the visual of points going on the board. More than his abysmal average that is.
    Well, to be honest, GP was the one putting up points. I didn’t even know we had crossing routes to the middle of the field, and neither did the Bengals as they left it wide open all night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorhead View Post
    Well, to be honest, GP was the one putting up points. I didn’t even know we had crossing routes to the middle of the field, and neither did the Bengals as they left it wide open all night.
    Was that a crossing route to Pickens where the dime was dropped on the sideline? Robinson was a factor also, if I recall correctly. Remember, Pickens to Pickens never happened. Someone else had the assists.There was also 20 other points besides Pickens,which alone was more than KP's per game average.There isn't enough time left this season to know if KP is the answer imo. Have you seen enough to think he is?. First order would be to try and salvage the season I would think.Imo start Rudolph in Seattle and play Pickett if Rudolph's play dictates that.

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