Mike Norvell For Steelers Next OC

[Born2Steel]

This guy is the real deal. OC in 2024, HC in 2025.

[Edman]

Norvell (or anyone) won't make much of a difference until Mike Tomlin is replaced.

[Born2Steel]

Norvell (or anyone) won't make much of a difference until Mike Tomlin is replaced.

Lol!!!! Can you even read?

[Edman]

Lol!!!! Can you even read?

Apparently not. You said '25.

[DesertSteel]

Mike Norvell is making $8M a year and is due for a big raise. Not likely to take an OC job Lol.

[Born2Steel]

Mike Norvell is making $8M a year and is due for a big raise. Not likely to take an OC job Lol.

You CAN read. Just choosing not to.

[Steeldude]

Norvell (or anyone) won't make much of a difference until Mike Tomlin is replaced.

I have been saying that for a very long time.

[Mach1]

Why waste another year with Tomlin then?

[DuckHodges]

Fire Tomlin

[Mojouw]

Why would he take a demotion?

[Born2Steel]

Why waste another year with Tomlin then?

Just going with the usual procedure. The Steelers as an organization have let coaches work out their contracts. Small sample size, I know.

Since the immediate need is for a viable OC, hire that guy. Hire him with the intent that he will become the next HC once Tomlin’s contract expires at the end of 2024.

I chose Norvell because after his undefeated season got snubbed he may be in the mood to leave the NCAA. Absolutely nothing to base that on or any reason to believe it’s a possibility. I am only talking possibility over probability.

[Godfather]

Nah. I don't want to go 17-0 and be denied a spot in the playoffs.

[Born2Steel]

Nah. I don't want to go 17-0 and be denied a spot in the playoffs.

Lol!!!! There’s a player.

[DesertSteel]

You CAN read. Just choosing not to.

Yeah I can read but I'm not sure you can write.

[Born2Steel]

Yeah I can but I'm not sure you can.

Probably not all you’re not sure about.

[DesertSteel]

These are the kind of idiot threads you get after a bad loss like today.

[Born2Steel]

These are the kind of idiot threads you get after a bad loss like today.

True.

It’s also true you guys take every little thing way too personally.

[Mojouw]

Fine. I’ll bite.

Is there a specific something that Norvell does to create an offense?

Or is his success predicated on the recruiting advantages FSU provides?

[Born2Steel]

Fine. I’ll bite.

Is there a specific something that Norvell does to create an offense?

Or is his success predicated on the recruiting advantages FSU provides?

I honestly believe Coach Norvell is the real thing. He led the Memphis Tigers to their one and only AAC championship. He beat the Desmond Ridder led Cincy team 2 weeks back to back to accomplish that. He then left for FSU where he took over a 6-7 team. Went 3-6, then 5-7, to 10-3 and undefeated this season with an ACC championship. I guess we’ll see if his success continues, but I do think he is one of the premier HCs and is a great offensive minded coach.

[Mojouw]

I honestly believe Coach Norvell is the real thing. He led the Memphis Tigers to their one and only AAC championship. He beat the Desmond Ridder led Cincy team 2 weeks back to back to accomplish that. He then left for FSU where he took over a 6-7 team. Went 3-6, then 5-7, to 10-3 and undefeated this season with an ACC championship. I guess we’ll see if his success continues, but I do think he is one of the premier HCs and is a great offensive minded coach.

Ok. does that have any basis for translating to the NFL?

Kingsbury, Meyer, Petrino, Rhule, something Brady…just off the top of my head. All guys that helmed dominant college offenses and couldn’t do much in the NFL.

[Born2Steel]

Ok. does that have any basis for translating to the NFL?

Kingsbury, Meyer, Petrino, Rhule, something Brady…just off the top of my head. All guys that helmed dominant college offenses and couldn’t do much in the NFL.

Do you think Tomlin gets extended at this point, or are we very likely looking at a new HC in 2025?

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If I had the ability to know the future I promise you, I would already be living on a very healthy retirement.

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Norvell is the best option I have at this point in time. I guess we could always go with Jim Harbaugh and completely accelerate the Steelers/Ravens rivalry.

[pczach]

Ok. does that have any basis for translating to the NFL?

Kingsbury, Meyer, Petrino, Rhule, something Brady…just off the top of my head. All guys that helmed dominant college offenses and couldn’t do much in the NFL.

He is an innovative coach that really put together some great offenses that produced a lot of points and were a lot of fun to watch. But he isn't just a throw the ball a million times, run-and-gun type of offense. He ran an up-tempo spread offense. They came at you and tried to run a thousand plays a game. It is a pass heavy offense, but he believes strongly in the running game and loves running backs that are versatile, but he has also shown that he adjusts his scheme to fit the talent and style of the players he has.

He's an intriguing coach that went to a school like Memphis and made them a good program that can play with better programs and put points up on anybody. I think he was the youngest coach in Div I college football when he was hired as the head coach at Memphis.

He then goes to Florida State and goes undefeated after 4-5 years of building the program. Yes, recruiting always wins in college football, but recruiting talent is one thing. Going undefeated while losing your starting quarterback in the middle of the season is impressive.

He ran more of a pro-style offense at FSU. He has a unique take on offense, and like I said above, is very versatile in what his teams can do and what he is willing to do with scheme depending on the talent he has.

I don't know if Norvell has what it takes to be a great NFL coach, but I do know he has done about as well as anybody and has shown an ability to adapt and win with what you have. Not all coaches can do that.

I think he has a chance to be a good coach.

[Mojouw]

Do you think Tomlin gets extended at this point, or are we very likely looking at a new HC in 2025?

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Norvell is the best option I have at this point in time. I guess we could always go with Jim Harbaugh and completely accelerate the Steelers/Ravens rivalry.

I do think Tomlin gets extended.

But you wanted to discuss Norvell.

I know little about him. And all we’ve been able to get through is his win loss record.

It seems that trying to understand what about the coach you brought up makes him a good coach has upset you.

Sorry. I thought you wanted someone to try and have the discussion with.

What kind of offense does he run? Why has he coached so many places? Does he favor a specific defensive style? Does he come with a staff? Who has he learned under and worked with?

I’d gladly hear you out on any of it.i am genuinely interested and willing to listen.

[Mojouw]

He is an innovative coach that really put together some great offenses that produced a lot of points and were a lot of fun to watch. But he isn't just a throw the ball a million times, run-and-gun type of offense. He ran an up-tempo spread offense. They came at you and tried to run a thousand plays a game. It is a pass heavy offense, but he believes strongly in the running game and loves running backs that are versatile, but he has also shown that he adjusts his scheme to fit the talent and style of the players he has.

He's an intriguing coach that went to a school like Memphis and made them a good program that can play with better programs and put points up on anybody. I think he was the youngest coach in Div I college football at Memphis.

He then goes to Florida State and goes undefeated after 4-5 years of building the program. Yes, recruiting always wins in college football, but recruiting talent is one thing. Going undefeated while losing your starting quarterback in the middle of the season is impressive.

I don't know if Norvell has what it takes to be a great NFL coach, but I do know he has done about as well as anybody and has shown an ability to adapt and win with what you have. Not all coaches can do that.

I think he has a chance to be a good coach.

That all makes sense.

He seems like a guy with some good bona fides.

But he’s likely looking to come over as a head coach I would suspect.

Wonder how long he has to win and how “big” at FSU before he gets a look?

[pczach]

That all makes sense.

He seems like a guy with some good bona fides.

But he’s likely looking to come over as a head coach I would suspect.

Wonder how long he has to win and how “big” at FSU before he gets a look?

I'm sure everyone is looking at him now as someone to think about and look into him more.

[Mojouw]

I'm sure everyone is looking at him now as someone to think about and look into him more.

I think it’s going to be a harder sell for college coaches for awhile.

Too many recent hotshots have come to the NFL and just fallen flat. Like total failure flat.

I realize that’s not Norvell’s fault. But I think many owners are going to be gun shy for a bit.

[pczach]

I think it’s going to be a harder sell for college coaches for awhile.

Too many recent hotshots have come to the NFL and just fallen flat. Like total failure flat.

I realize that’s not Norvell’s fault. But I think many owners are going to be gun shy for a bit.

I think so too.

I still think it makes sense to go after coaches that have shown they can coach well at the NFL level as a coordinator or any other coaching position as long as they can show that they are proficient in the offense or defense their team ran, plus show that they understand the game at a high level and have great leadership skills. A high-end offensive coordinator makes a lot of sense in today's game.

I'm not sure that I would take a chance on a college coach myself. They are often overwhelmed in the NFL and their systems often don't work.

[Mojouw]

I think so too.

I still think it makes sense to go after coaches that have shown they can coach well at the NFL level as a coordinator or any other coaching position as long as they can show that they are proficient in the offense or defense their team ran, plus show that they understand the game at a high level and have great leadership skills. A high-end offensive coordinator makes a lot of sense in today's game.

I'm not sure that I would take a chance on a college coach myself. They are often overwhelmed in the NFL and their systems often don't work.

I think it takes a certain kind of college coach to make it work.

I also think that defensive coaches will be the new rage in the NFL as the pendulum is swinging that way a bit at the moment.

Honestly. Who really knows? The bottom line is most owners are awful at identifying coaching and GM hires. We can look at trends all we want but it just takes one capricious billionaire to decide to hire some yahoo to upset all that thinking!

[Dwinsgames]

this might sound off topic but I assure you there is a point to be made here if you will indulge me for 2 mins ....

My Grandson is a really good soccer player he has played 3 sessions a year for many years now and is one of the best Goalies around in his age bracket , that aside his friends dad is the coach of the team and has moved up in brackets every couple years to coach his kid and consequently my grandson as well , they have won championship after championship after championship in their division and have went to what they call the Plum Classic in Plum Borough (outskirt of Pittsburgh ) that holds a huge tournament every year and they went and dominated it a couple years ago .... anyways this coach is a master recruiter he is able to convince kids from other areas to come join his team and make champions out of them and he does ... so he gets 5-6-7 ringers to come from a 50 mile radius to play soccer for his team and join a dozen local kids to produce this badass team and he looks like genius coach when the reality of it is he is blessed with superior talent on his roster and blows out other teams without much coaching involved ....

well 2 years ago the leagues started cracking down on outsiders being brought in and the players had to prove residency to play for teams in a specific region .... guess what happened to the Genius coach ... he looks like just a guy because he no longer is able to blow other teams out and has to win those 2-1 games and sometimes they lose games where as before they went seasons without a loss .....

moral of the story is when you have set rosters with just a draft each season and a few players worth of free agent turnovers ( some of which are losses ) its not so easy to stack your team with "your guys" ............

so you gotta be wary of college coaches as its a whole other world in terms of team building and many of them cant manage the NFL game because of these sort of things

[Born2Steel]

I do think Tomlin gets extended.

But you wanted to discuss Norvell.

I know little about him. And all we’ve been able to get through is his win loss record.

It seems that trying to understand what about the coach you brought up makes him a good coach has upset you.

Sorry. I thought you wanted someone to try and have the discussion with.

What kind of offense does he run? Why has he coached so many places? Does he favor a specific defensive style? Does he come with a staff? Who has he learned under and worked with?

I’d gladly hear you out on any of it.i am genuinely interested and willing to listen.

I’m confused why you think I got upset.

I actually do think Mike Norvell and Jim Harbaugh are probably the 2 best names at this time. Yes, they come from college programs but I don’t really separate football coaching like that.