The ocean level was much higher before combustion engines and industrialization. Shocking. Wonder how many libtards will be able to figure this out?
Florida road crew unearths unusual find from 1800s in highway | Fox News
The ocean level was much higher before combustion engines and industrialization. Shocking. Wonder how many libtards will be able to figure this out?
Florida road crew unearths unusual find from 1800s in highway | Fox News
I’m pretty sure they had hurricanes back in the 1800s. Based on how many hurricanes have slammed into Florida in my lifetime, that would be a good explanation as to how the ship got there. Trust someone to bring in politics.Originally Posted by Penglose
By the way, St Augustine, (where the ship was found) is right along the Atlantic coast. I’m not even a libtard and I could figure that out.
Congrats on figuring that out. With Google Maps out there, you did great. Yes, glad you brought up hurricanes. They've been less frequent and damaging since the Greenies got heated up. Oh, the ship. I wasn't actually there, but I believe it wasn't a houseboat the drifted inland on a 6 foot storm surge. Lastly, I must apologize for bringing up politics in a politic discussion forum. What could I have been thinking. My bad.
WOW! 18 posts and you are apparently an ass! Go bother some other board. I have the feeling you’ve been here before under another name.
Nope. Never been here before. Didn't even know it existed. I wasn't sure if the board allowed people to call people asses, but I guess it O.K. Considering you posted this insulting post,
I’m pretty sure they had hurricanes back in the 1800s. Based on how many hurricanes have slammed into Florida in my lifetime, that would be a good explanation as to how the ship got there. Trust someone to bring in politics.
I'm pretty sure hurricanes existed in the 1800's was a pretty insulting post. By your definition, you were the ass. But I took the high road and I mentioned a couple facts, and then apologized for bringing up politics in a political forum. Which being a brilliant scholar, you took offense and resorted to the second step from a low I.Q. poster and resorted to insults. If you don't want politics in a political forum, might I suggest you find another place to post here. And don't post the obvious and get mad when someone points it out. Sorry for the inconvenience of making you use your brain.
So....about that river-going boat found next to the Matanzas River...found by a bridge....one of those things that gets built near water....
For crying out loud this is one of the single troll-iest things that has been posted here in some time.
And, yup, I fell for it...but c'mon....a fishing boat got left next to river and silted in with wet mud....for crying out loud I can see that happening right now.
Definitely feels like some kind of a troll. Over-the-top and tries just a little too hard.
See you Space Cowboy ...
I want to make sure I got this right. Fox News is trolling this forum? I'm sure you're brilliant. Oh, you are aware that rivers exist in all 50 states? If it were a river boat, it probably wouldn't have been a story.
Florida road crew unearths unusual find from 1800s in highway | Fox News
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Definitely feels like you're a lazy type of post who doesn't put much thought into his replies.
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SEARCH's Dr. James Delgado, who led the excavation and recovery, said in a statement that they believe the vessel "was a small single-masted, shallow-draft sailing craft of the 19th century."
"It was likely used to extract fish and shellfish from coastal waterways and directly offshore," Delgado said.
These quotes are directly from the article. I'm pretty sure it's being called a fishing boat. Probably not the result of a hurricane either, most likely just sunk.
Here you can read all about the fancy bridge on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge_of_Lions
spans the Matanzas River - an intercoastal waterway - and the boat was found in sediments adjacent to the water.
You can see the open water in the background of the excavations.
ok
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Oh man.... if you only knew......................"Definitely feels like you're a lazy type of post who doesn't put much thought into his replies."
In the pic in the story, I don't see any water at all. It never said it was an ocean liner. That's about as big as ships got back then I'll bet. Maybe the river disappeared underneath it.
Do you see the water in the picture above? That is from the website of the company doing the excavations. You can also see the actual ship. Ship's got a heck of alot bigger than that in the 1800's.
It is a small close to shore fishing vessel (most likely) that got dragged out of the water (one can imagine a variety of reasons for this) and then was left to rot in the soft silt adjacant to the river/intercoastal waterway. Over time, this area silted over and was likely filled in to support the expansion and development of the waterfront.
That leaves you with a boat under the road. The fact that they had experts on site monitoring the road excavations meant that they suspected something like these materials was present due to history of the land use in the area, previous work, or a combination of those factors.
This is not a climate change mystery or some complex proof of not climate change. It is the natural ebb and flow of life and history along a waterway.
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I guess no one can say for sure. Not me and not you. But there is scientific proof that much landscape in the United States were formed by glaziers. Including all the way down into PA. And ice core drilling has showed much higher concentrations of CO2 in the distant past with now manufacturing or combustion engines. Temperature on the planet fluctuates. People are stupid enough to think that the .0004 percent of the atmosphere that i CO2 can radically be changed by all the bullshit the dems want to do. And no one can answer justs how much that will be reduced if all the climate initiatives are undertaken. No one will answer it. It'll cripple this country and strengthen the ones who don't follow along. And the plants, who use CO2 will suffer. These morons are idiots.
I can absolutely say for sure what happened with that boat. It is extremely possible to accurately and correctly reconstruct the events of the past - especially something as recent as the 1800's.
The rest of the stuff about climate change and public policy? Not my circus. Not my monkeys.
But I absolutely do know that whatever you were on about with this boat somehow being a proof of whatever you want to say about climate change is total and utter rubbish.
And I have zero interest in debating the long and convoluted history of climate change across the globe over the last 4 billion years.
You are the most amazing person I've ever encountered. Please spread the wealth and tell me tomorrow's number.
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I'd agree...he's kinda cool...
42. It is always 42.
On a total other note....are you seriously doubting our (meaning human beings) ability to accurately reconstruct events from 150 years ago? I mean we have the written word, for the time period of this ship we have photography, and then we have the entire disciplines of history and archaeology that are specifically full of specialists at answering the question of "what happened here in the before times?".
Unless Florida is somehow totally different at keeping records than almost every other state....there are property records on file for the time period in question (so we can know who owned the land and what it was used for), there are reams of photos sitting in state/public archives somewhere and I bet at least one shows this ship rotting in the mudflats, and there are almost certainly historical documents and research on the fishing practices/technologies of that time period in and around the Florida coast. People do this kind of research and such all the time. In fact, there are state and federal laws that require this type of research to be done in advance of construction and infrastructure projects (which is why experts were on site and monitoring the construction). It will likely take about a year for the company doing the recovery of the boat to produce their final report -- maybe a bit longer depending on the level of analysis anyone is willing to pay for --- and that report will answer almost any question we can reasonably come up with about the history, construction, use, and discard of this specific boat.
OR...are you just salty that you repeated something stupid that the TV talky box told you and got it pointed out to you how inaccurate it was?
But keep on keeping on. And I'm sure your efforts will pay off soon!
Nah. Haven't you heard...I'm a disagreeable know it all. Rare commodity on the internet.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but is the whole premise of this debate really that sea level was something like 8 feet higher in the 1800s than it is now, and nobody noticed?
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I think you're brilliant. A man who knows everything, talking about know it alls. Sadly, it's not the first. Just curious how long you've been working in the Reconstructing Ships Found Inland While Building Highways Dept. A.K.A. RSFIWBHD.
Starting year 23 pretty soon.
Seriously. On this particular odd subject of Reconstructing Shit Found While Building Other Shit, I am actually an expert. While the Upper Midwest does not get a ton of oceangoing ships, we get pretty much everything else.
I had not heard that one. I have always heard something along the lines of this one: https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicato...tors-sea-level or this one: https://ocean.si.edu/through-time/an...sea-level-rise
About a 6-8 inch rise over the last century plus based on measurements at tidal stations globally since the early 1800's.
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