The Kenny Pickett Thread

[oneforthetoe]

I'm not 100% convinced of that. Right now, about 75%. I think there is a chance that they bring in either Russell Wilson (he will be very cheap since Denver is paying him) or Justin Fields (Tomlin loved him coming out). I know neither of those guys are popular on here, but neither was Mitch Trubisky. There's even a remote chance that Mason gets the job. I'll say this, if the Steelers make the playoffs and Mason starts, what does that say? To me, it says that there is zero belief that Kenny is the man going forward.

I think there is a chance of that as well. But can you really have a three person QB competition with the limited snaps available? I know technically we had a three person QB competition last year, but it really wasn't. The other issue is whether Mason would stick around if they brought in Fields or Wilson. He has already been burned once by a competition that wasn't. It all might depend on if the Steelers make the playoffs. If Mason were to lead the Steelers to a playoff victory, I do think he would get other offers. I'm not saying I would offer Mason a giant contract. But it could come down to how committed the Steelers really y are to giving Mason a shot.

BTW, I'd be good with bringing in Wilson and kicking the tires. I think he could be a good bridge QB. He could revive his career here. WE have good wr's and a power running name - just a perfect formula for revitalizing a veteran's career.

[Mojouw]

No more bridge QBs. Please learn the lessons right in front of you.

It’s a waste of time and resources.

[oneforthetoe]

No more bridge QBs. Please learn the lessons right in front of you.

It’s a waste of time and resources.

Only if you have the wrong bridge. Too expensive. Or, not talented enough (see present Steelers 3rd QB)

[Mojouw]

Only if you have the wrong bridge. Too expensive. Or, not talented enough (see present Steelers 3rd QB)

Sorry that was aimed at Steelers not you or your opinion.

For me, it’s a waste of time no matter what.

Low end it looks like Trubisky here. Big waste of time.

Best case your bridge plays well and you grind out 8-10 wins. Maybe get your butt kicked in wild card weekend. Now you’re too good to draft the young QB you wanted to bridge to and not good enough to stick with your bridge either.

That’s also a waste of time.

Either play Pickett or draft another QB and play them.

[oneforthetoe]

Sorry that was aimed at Steelers not you or your opinion.

For me, it’s a waste of time no matter what.

Low end it looks like Trubisky here. Big waste of time.

Best case your bridge plays well and you grind out 8-10 wins. Maybe get your butt kicked in wild card weekend. Now you’re too good to draft the young QB you wanted to bridge to and not good enough to stick with your bridge either.

That’s also a waste of time.

Either play Pickett or draft another QB and play them.

I'm not a big advocate for Wilson really. However, if you are going to bring in a bridge QB at least bring one with some playoff success under his belt. My preference would be for Mason, Kenny and 4th or 5th round QB in the draft.

[Mojouw]

I'm not a big advocate for Wilson really. However, if you are going to bring in a bridge QB at least bring one with some playoff success under his belt. My preference would be for Mason, Kenny and 4th or 5th round QB in the draft.

It’s not a bad idea. I get the sound reasoning behind it.

I am just personally so against it. I just think it delays the inevitable drafting of a QB.

I would go with KP with a high caliber offensive staff. Unless I somehow fell bass ackwards into a big time QB during the draft.

[polamalubeast]

It’s not a bad idea. I get the sound reasoning behind it.

I am just personally so against it. I just think it delays the inevitable drafting of a QB.

I would go with KP with a high caliber offensive staff. Unless I somehow fell bass ackwards into a big time QB during the draft.

I am sure the Browns are happy with Joe Flacco!

Of course,this is bad if the bridge QB is awful like Trubisky but the steelers still need a plan B if the production of Pickett is way too low once again

[Mojouw]

I am sure the Browns are happy with Joe Flacco!

Of course,this is bad if the bridge QB is awful like Trubisky but the steelers still need a plan B if the production of Pickett is way too low once again

Flacco isn’t a bridge QB. He’s a random emergency that has worked miracles.

Say the Steelers start KP. And he’s awful. They open 0-4. I say ride it out. Then either KP gets better and you’ve got your answer or he continues to stink. Then you’ve got your answer and the draft pick needed to get a replacement.

That, to me, is far preferable to having some 2024 version of Taylor or Brissett come in and guide the team to 8 wins. Now what? You’re not in position to win playoff games or draft a QB. You’re just stuck.

I went round and round about this two seasons ago. Nothing since then I’ve seen across the NFL has changed my mind. Bridge QBs are a waste of time and resources and do not leave a franchise any better off.

Just say no.

[polamalubeast]

Flacco isn’t a bridge QB. He’s a random emergency that has worked miracles.

Say the Steelers start KP. And he’s awful. They open 0-4. I say ride it out. Then either KP gets better and you’ve got your answer or he continues to stink. Then you’ve got your answer and the draft pick needed to get a replacement.

That, to me, is far preferable to having some 2024 version of Taylor or Brissett come in and guide the team to 8 wins. Now what? You’re not in position to win playoff games or draft a QB. You’re just stuck.

I went round and round about this two seasons ago. Nothing since then I’ve seen across the NFL has changed my mind. Bridge QBs are a waste of time and resources and do not leave a franchise any better off.

Just say no.

I understand your point, it's just not a good situation if Pickett is awful like Mac Jones next year

[Mojouw]

I understand your point, it's just not a good situation if Pickett is awful like Mac Jones next year

In a way it is. After 3 seasons, the team would finally have an unequivocal answer about KP and they could move on.

This season’s goal was getting a resolution on Canada.

2024 is getting a final answer on KP.

Everything else is just gravy.

[DesertSteel]

Flacco isn’t a bridge QB. He’s a random emergency that has worked miracles.

Say the Steelers start KP. And he’s awful. They open 0-4. I say ride it out. Then either KP gets better and you’ve got your answer or he continues to stink. Then you’ve got your answer and the draft pick needed to get a replacement.

That, to me, is far preferable to having some 2024 version of Taylor or Brissett come in and guide the team to 8 wins. Now what? You’re not in position to win playoff games or draft a QB. You’re just stuck.

I went round and round about this two seasons ago. Nothing since then I’ve seen across the NFL has changed my mind. Bridge QBs are a waste of time and resources and do not leave a franchise any better off.

Just say no.

What part of the streak don’t you understand?

[Mojouw]

What part of the streak don’t you understand?

Which streak? Flacco’s? The Steelers’?

Assuming the Steelers, it doesn’t change much for 2024. You have to determine, as an organization, what your future at QB actually is.

Bouncing between Rudolph, KP, or (heaven forbid) a “bridge” QB is just setting yourself up to still lack an answer at perhaps the single most important position in sports.

If I owned a team, and it’s likely really good that I do not, until I had a reliable and long term viable answer at QB, I wouldn’t care about just about anything else.

[DesertSteel]

Which streak? Flacco’s? The Steelers’?

Assuming the Steelers, it doesn’t change much for 2024. You have to determine, as an organization, what your future at QB actually is.

Bouncing between Rudolph, KP, or (heaven forbid) a “bridge” QB is just setting yourself up to still lack an answer at perhaps the single most important position in sports.

If I owned a team, and it’s likely really good that I do not, until I had a reliable and long term viable answer at QB, I wouldn’t care about just about anything else.

The only streak that matters: Tomlin’s non-losing streak. The standard. They’re not going to go 4-13 and draft a franchise QB. No way that happens. There’s actually too much talent outside of QB for that to occur.

[Mojouw]

The only streak that matters: Tomlin’s non-losing streak. The standard. They’re not going to go 4-13 and draft a franchise QB. No way that happens. There’s actually too much talent outside of QB for that to occur.

And that may be true. I’m not advocating to tank.

But if they end 2024 still uncertain about KP, for me, that’s a failure.

[86WARD]

And that may be true. I’m not advocating to tank.

But if they end 2024 still uncertain about KP, for me, that’s a failure.

If they don’t know about Pickett, then just move on and get a new QB. It’s not like they are paying him much. They messed up his evaluation. Just time was wasted.

[Mojouw]

If they don’t know about Pickett, then just move on and get a new QB. It’s not like they are paying him much. They messed up his evaluation. Just time was wasted.

Sure. But the worst outcome at least for me would be something along the lines of well we kinda think another year in Joe Schmoes system with more weapons and blah blah blah.

They've wasted two years with a crap approach to this. I'm not interested in wasting years 3 and 4.

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[Steeler-in-west]

To me it’s clear, just roll with Mason and KP next year (and a developmental QB). Don’t need another backup vet if you sign Mason. Doesn’t look like we’re going to be high enough in draft selection to get that next QB. So go with MR or KP if they play well great, we surround them with the tools and we maybe get deep into the playoffs, if not maybe trade up and get your QB in the next draft. We could trade up this year if they don’t want to waste time on KP.

[86WARD]

Sure. But the worst outcome at least for me would be something along the lines of well we kinda think another year in Joe Schmoes system with more weapons and blah blah blah.

They've wasted two years with a crap approach to this. I'm not interested in wasting years 3 and 4.

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A new OC…BRAND NEW…and then see how he does. If he’s trash for two more years, then you got your evaluation and move on. Rudolph should be gone after this season so he shouldn’t even be a factor. Pickett should be designated starter and his job to lose once regular season starts. Not interested in seeing a QB-Competition…that’s where time starts to get wasted. Give him every opportunity to succeed or fail and then go from there.

They’ve wasted enough talent on this team and player years fucking with Canada’s preschool offense. Now you just have to have these guys sink or swim and move forward.

[Mojouw]

A new OC…BRAND NEW…and then see how he does. If he’s trash for two more years, then you got your evaluation and move on. Rudolph should be gone after this season so he shouldn’t even be a factor. Pickett should be designated starter and his job to lose once regular season starts. Not interested in seeing a QB-Competition…that’s where time starts to get wasted. Give him every opportunity to succeed or fail and then go from there.

They’ve wasted enough talent on this team and player years fucking with Canada’s preschool offense. Now you just have to have these guys sink or swim and move forward.

Didn’t say it as clearly but that’s what I meant.


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[Penglose]

All the questions are now answered. Rudolph should be number 1 going into camp.

[Mojouw]

All the questions are now answered. Rudolph should be number 1 going into camp.

I really hope not.

You know all those teams Steelers fans were “embarrassed “ to lose to in the playoffs? Bortles Jags? Tebow Broncos? Or those backup QB playoff victories that I’m told don’t count?

That’s the best case scenario for a Rudolph led squad. To be one of those teams.

Rudolph is an average backup QB.

[DuckHodges]

Make him win the job next season, if he can. Rudolph earned the starting job

[Steeler-in-west]

I really hope not.

You know all those teams Steelers fans were “embarrassed “ to lose to in the playoffs? Bortles Jags? Tebow Broncos? Or those backup QB playoff victories that I’m told don’t count?

That’s the best case scenario for a Rudolph led squad. To be one of those teams.

Rudolph is an average backup QB.

Rudolph’s an average backup? Cause he didn’t pass for 300 yards and 3 td’s in the pouring rain? If he’s an average backup what does that make KP or really some of the starters in the league? You just don’t like the guy I think.

[Born2Steel]

You don’t throw away an entire season just so you get a ‘true evaluation’ of Kenny Pickett.

Kenny should be next season’s game1 starter, I agree with that. But, you need to either re-sign Mason or bring in another vet backup option. I also think we should draft a QB in the 1st/2nd round, 3rd at the latest.

You absolutely must have a franchise QB to maintain a competitive team. If you do not have a franchise QB you take the gamble of drafting one. I think we have to.

[Mojouw]

Rudolph’s an average backup? Cause he didn’t pass for 300 yards and 3 td’s in the pouring rain? If he’s an average backup what does that make KP or really some of the starters in the league? You just don’t like the guy I think.

I’ve watched him play every game of his career.

That’s what I’m judging him off of.

KP is currently a bad QB. So are several others across the league.

As soon as Rudolph encounters a good defense, the wheels are gonna come off.

[86WARD]

Rudolph’s an average backup? Cause he didn’t pass for 300 yards and 3 td’s in the pouring rain? If he’s an average backup what does that make KP or really some of the starters in the league? You just don’t like the guy I think.

He may be a below average back up. What that makes Pickett is irrelevant.

[Craic]

All the questions are now answered. Rudolph should be number 1 going into camp.

No. Just no. Anyone who has watched MR's career knows that he seriously falls off after two or three games. Yes, there was bad weather yesterday, but did not look sharp, either. He played at KP's Canada era level. I fear we've seen MR's ceiling these last few games. I'm taking nothing away from what he did before this game. However, anyone who thinks he earned the permanent starter spot is ignoring reality.

[fansince'76]

No. Just no. Anyone who has watched MR's career knows that he seriously falls off after two or three games. Yes, there was bad weather yesterday, but did not look sharp, either. He played at KP's Canada era level. I fear we've seen MR's ceiling these last few games. I'm taking nothing away from what he did before this game. However, anyone who thinks he earned the permanent starter spot is ignoring reality.

Exactly. He made one really good throw against a bunch of second stringers. Thankfully, that was all that was needed.

[86WARD]

No. Just no. Anyone who has watched MR's career knows that he seriously falls off after two or three games. Yes, there was bad weather yesterday, but did not look sharp, either. He played at KP's Canada era level. I fear we've seen MR's ceiling these last few games. I'm taking nothing away from what he did before this game. However, anyone who thinks he earned the permanent starter spot is ignoring reality.

QFT!!

[Penglose]

I really hope not.

You know all those teams Steelers fans were “embarrassed “ to lose to in the playoffs? Bortles Jags? Tebow Broncos? Or those backup QB playoff victories that I’m told don’t count?

That’s the best case scenario for a Rudolph led squad. To be one of those teams.

Rudolph is an average backup QB.

Yeah. He sure proved that. Had a much better game against the Ravens than Purdy. Throws the ball downfield much better than Lawrence. And if that's the case, what is Pickett? Much worse than average backup?

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Exactly. He made one really good throw against a bunch of second stringers. Thankfully, that was all that was needed.

Somebody mislead you into believing they were a bunch of second stringers. Better check into that. Also, he beat three teams in a row with above .500 records, who were all in playoff contention.

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I’ve watched him play every game of his career.

That’s what I’m judging him off of.

KP is currently a bad QB. So are several others across the league.

As soon as Rudolph encounters a good defense, the wheels are gonna come off.

The Ravens in Balimore in a torrential downpour are cupcakes I guess. Face the facts. If he would have thrown for 900 yards in every game, you Pickett apologists would still be talking this trash. Be honest.