The Kenny Pickett Thread

[FordFairLane]

What has Rudolph done since Canada took over? Take a look at his numbers.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...R/RudoMa00.htm

Also, here were the quarterback stats in all of this seasons training camp.

https://steelersdepot.com/2023/08/20...-16-practices/

It's not pretty. And he has had the most time in this offense of all the quarterbacks.

and the year before he had the best stats in training camp and preseason. And Canada isn’t the OC so that scapegoat is off the table. If you want to blame a coach you better be blaming Tomlin. Canada, Butler, Fichtner, Haley, LeBeau, Arians. All the problem but nothing changes. Maybe it’s time we look at Tomlin and Art.

I don’t expect Rudolph to light it up Saturday. But if he can get us a couple of passing touchdowns with one or less interceptions he is going to give us a shot at winning. Something Mitch and Kenny have failed to do.

[pczach]

and the year before he had the best stats in training camp and preseason. And Canada isn’t the OC so that scapegoat is off the table. If you want to blame a coach you better be blaming Tomlin. Canada, Butler, Fichtner, Haley, LeBeau, Arians. All the problem but nothing changes. Maybe it’s time we look at Tomlin and Art.

I don’t expect Rudolph to light it up Saturday. But if he can get us a couple of passing touchdowns with one or less interceptions he is going to give us a shot at winning. Something Mitch and Kenny have failed to do.

The whole point was because someone was directly comparing Pickett's numbers with Rudolph's numbers. I just suggested comparing their numbers when they are both playing in the same system, with the same coaching staff, and with Rudolph having more time and experience in the offense.

[Voice of Reason]

I don’t expect Rudolph to light it up Saturday. But if he can get us a couple of passing touchdowns with one or less interceptions he is going to give us a shot at winning. Something Mitch and Kenny have failed to do.

How did we win 7 games with Kenny this year if he didn't give us a shot at winning?

[feltdizz]

How did we win 7 games with Kenny this year if he didn't give us a shot at winning?

yeah.. the hate for Kenny by some is a bit weird. I definitely understand the frustration with not throwing a bunch of TD’s but he protects the ball and wins games even if they are ugly or low scoring most of the time.

[FordFairLane]

How did we win 7 games with Kenny this year if he didn't give us a shot at winning?

Minus the raiders and bengals game all those wins were defensive and or running backs. We haven’t needed much from the qb position. If Kenny could average 225yards and a 2:1 touchdown ratio we’d be in the running for AFC North still.

[cubanstogie]

Minus the raiders and bengals game all those wins were defensive and or running backs. We haven’t needed much from the qb position. If Kenny could average 225yards and a 2:1 touchdown ratio we’d be in the running for AFC North still.

We were in running for AFC North up until KP went out with ankle. 7-4 with 3-0 lead and 4th and goal at the one. Now 7-7 and last place. He was 7 of 10 for 70 halfway into 2nd quarter looking pretty good. You left out a few games , Rams Browns . No one can make argument that KP lit it up , you can argue all he does is win games despite weak O line with worst center in the league. Even with his pathetic stats , Steelers probably would’ve been 2-1 in games he missed at worst. IMO he gets one more year unless he is beat out in camp next year. If no drastic improvement they move on. He hasn’t showed much but just enough not to say bust quite yet.

[Voice of Reason]

Minus the raiders and bengals game all those wins were defensive and or running backs. We haven’t needed much from the qb position. If Kenny could average 225yards and a 2:1 touchdown ratio we’d be in the running for AFC North still.

Yeah, the wins were greatly helped by the defense and running backs. But since we won, Kenny obviously played well enough to give us a shot at winning.

And since we lost every game that Trubisky played in, maybe it's Mitch who's responsible for us not still being in the running for the AFC North.

[86WARD]

You can’t say because Canada isn’t the OC that he’s not an excuse…his playbook is still what the Steelers are using. They can’t install a whole new system. Sure they can make tweaks to it, which we have seen…but the majority of it is still the same trash they’ve been parking with.

[Mojouw]

You can’t say because Canada isn’t the OC that he’s not an excuse…his playbook is still what the Steelers are using. They can’t install a whole new system. Sure they can make tweaks to it, which we have seen…but the majority of it is still the same trash they’ve been parking with.

Yeah.

I think the last few weeks has been it finally dawning on the players that the remaining parts of the 2023 season are just a voyage of the damned for the offense. There’s no fixing this mess until an entire offseason cycle to install something else.

Seems fans are finally realizing it as well.

I’ve always thought that was why the team resisted firing Canada for so long once the season started.

There’s no fixing this amount of stupid by changing the coaches during a season.

[feltdizz]

The wins were helped by the defense and RB’s?

lmao, show me a game where a QB won it ALL BY HIMSELF??

I get that Kenny isn’t lighting it up but its weird how we can drive inside the 10, RB scores on a run or 2 and Kenny is bashed for not throwing a TD even if we won the game.

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Yeah.

I think the last few weeks has been it finally dawning on the players that the remaining parts of the 2023 season are just a voyage of the damned for the offense. There’s no fixing this mess until an entire offseason cycle to install something else.

Seems fans are finally realizing it as well.

I’ve always thought that was why the team resisted firing Canada for so long once the season started.

There’s no fixing this amount of stupid by changing the coaches during a season.

but Trubisky throwing into triple coverage, throwing it out of bounds deep or no where close to a WR is due to the playbook.

Same with Kenny missing wide open guys because he is focused on one read. Now if he is coached to do this then sure but some of this is on the QB and WR’s giving up on routes or not sitting in soft parts of a zone.

[steelcityboyz]

The wins were helped by the defense and RB’s?

lmao, show me a game where a QB won it ALL BY HIMSELF??

I get that Kenny isn’t lighting it up but its weird how we can drive inside the 10, RB scores on a run or 2 and Kenny is bashed for not throwing a TD even if we won the game.

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but Trubisky throwing into triple coverage, throwing it out of bounds deep or no where close to a WR is due to the playbook.

Same with Kenny missing wide open guys because he is focused on one read. Now if he is coached to do this then sure but some of this is on the QB and WR’s giving up on routes or not sitting in soft parts of a zone.

I don't think i've ever seen Kenny just give up on a play or not at least try to make something happen, but i've seen 2 recievers not really give a shit about playing hard to make something happen. If i was KP i would be pretty pissed off with the lack of effort to try and help him out. IMO they should sit or trade both cry babies

[86WARD]

I don't think i've ever seen Kenny just give up on a play or not at least try to make something happen, but i've seen 2 recievers not really give a shit about playing hard to make something happen. If i was KP i would be pretty pissed off with the lack of effort to try and help him out. IMO they should sit or trade both cry babies

If they sit them both, who is going to start? Boykin and Austin?

[Mojouw]

If they sit them both, who is going to start? Boykin and Austin?

I kinda wanna see this now. Robinson, Boykin, and Austin. No backups. Just roll 3 deep.

[DesertSteel]

If they sit them both, who is going to start? Boykin and Austin?

Run the wishbone.

[Voice of Reason]

I think the last few weeks has been it finally dawning on the players that the remaining parts of the 2023 season are just a voyage of the damned for the offense. There’s no fixing this mess until an entire offseason cycle to install something else.

I think the mess showed signs of being at least partially fixed until Trubisky came in. He created a new mess, that now has been fixed with his benching. It will be interesting to see what happens on Saturday.

[Penglose]

How did we win 7 games with Kenny this year if he didn't give us a shot at winning?

DEFENSE.

[tube517]

Run the wishbone.

Barry Switzer at Oklahoma

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[steelcityboyz]

If they sit them both, who is going to start? Boykin and Austin?

At this point who really gives a shit?

[86WARD]

Yeah.

I think the last few weeks has been it finally dawning on the players that the remaining parts of the 2023 season are just a voyage of the damned for the offense. There’s no fixing this mess until an entire offseason cycle to install something else.

Seems fans are finally realizing it as well.

I’ve always thought that was why the team resisted firing Canada for so long once the season started.

There’s no fixing this amount of stupid by changing the coaches during a season.

HOWEVER, you look at the Bills offense...since Dorsey was expelled, Joe Brady has transformed that offense into a totally different offense. They've started using James Cook much more and Josh Allen is running more. More importantly, they are 3-1 under Brady and should probably be 4-0...down side is Diggs and Davis aren't as involved. BUT the results are there.

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At this point who really gives a shit?

Touche

[Mojouw]

HOWEVER, you look at the Bills offense...since Dorsey was expelled, Joe Brady has transformed that offense into a totally different offense. They've started using James Cook much more and Josh Allen is running more. More importantly, they are 3-1 under Brady and should probably be 4-0...down side is Diggs and Davis aren't as involved. BUT the results are there.

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Touche

Very true.

But I think the individual plays in the existing Bills playbook were functioning NFL plays.

I don’t think the same for what Canada left for Faulksulkivan

But I’ve wondered how Brady got the Bills to buy in to something they’ve consistently resisted previously.

Why it took anyone from their Head Coach on down to just commit to Cook is baffling.

[86WARD]

Very true.

But I think the individual plays in the existing Bills playbook were functioning NFL plays.

I don’t think the same for what Canada left for Faulksulkivan

But I’ve wondered how Brady got the Bills to buy in to something they’ve consistently resisted previously.

Why it took anyone from their Head Coach on down to just commit to Cook is baffling.

The playbook we are seeing tonight…totally new…

[Mojouw]

The playbook we are seeing tonight…totally new…

You appear to be right.

[86WARD]

You appear to be right.

I wonder if three weeks was enough time to install new material or I wonder if it’s because the plays Mason is comfortable with are better plays than what Pickett and Trubisky were comfortable with.

Ben said they have meetings where they pick their favorite 10 plays and then the OC picks, the other coaches pick and then they see what matches up…

[lipps83]

I wonder if three weeks was enough time to install new material or I wonder if it’s because the plays Mason is comfortable with are better plays than what Pickett and Trubisky were comfortable with.

Ben said they have meetings where they pick their favorite 10 plays and then the OC picks, the other coaches pick and then they see what matches up…

Probably something else altogether.

[Voice of Reason]

I wonder if three weeks was enough time to install new material or I wonder if it’s because the plays Mason is comfortable with are better plays than what Pickett and Trubisky were comfortable with.

Kenny has had one full game after Canada was fired and put up 400 yards of offense.

Rudolph has had one full game after Canada was fired and put up 290 yards passing and 34 points.

Trubisky has had two full games after Canada was fired and put up...(sigh).

Anybody still think that the two new OC's were the problem?

[86WARD]

Kenny has had one full game after Canada was fired and put up 400 yards of offense.

Rudolph has had one full game after Canada was fired and put up 290 yards passing and 34 points.

Trubisky has had two full games after Canada was fired and put up...(sigh).

Anybody still think that the two new OC's were the problem?

Both of those “positive games” were against the Bengals…could be an isolated case…maybe coincidence. I’d like to see how they perform against other teams as well…however, we are running out of time for that…

[Penglose]

Who could watch that and not come away with Rudolph being their best QB now. Hopefully Kenny watched what a NFL QB should look like. Now he should study under Mason.

[Shoes]

Who could watch that and not come away with Rudolph being their best QB now. Hopefully Kenny watched what a NFL QB should look like. Now he should study under Mason.

You are a brave young man to say this! Expect the lanterns and pitchforks at your doorstep at any time! I agree with you.

[Steeler-in-west]

Rudy’s performance was the best thing to happen to KP, now he’s got to up his game and attack downfield like MR did. We actually need a little QB controversy

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You are a brave young man to say this! Expect the lanterns and pitchforks at your doorstep at any time! I agree with you.

I agree also

[DesertSteel]

Who could watch that and not come away with Rudolph being their best QB now. Hopefully Kenny watched what a NFL QB should look like. Now he should study under Mason.

Let's just remember that Browning was the next Joe Montana for a couple weeks. Yesterday, he looked like the QB2/3 that he is.