Major Coaching indictment

[Edman]

Ever since last season its been proven that George Pickens is our playmaking receiver who makes things happen, and yet he is never featured as our #1 receiver or first read. Time to quit the theatrics. Diontae Johnson is not a #1 receiver and he never will be, and keeps proving it today.

Najee Harris is not a good RB. Like at all.

Calvin Austin is supposedly a burner, but he's running quick outs and we never took a shot downfield with him, or even run a jet sweep.

No creativity whatsoever in playcalling. Run. run. Pass. The middle of the field disappears again. Suddenly and mysteriously Kenny Pickett cannot quarterback anymore.

Kenny Pickett looks the exact same as 2021 Ben and Mitch Trubisky. Not confident. Skittish. Poor footwork. Not trusting his receivers. Checking down. Three seasons. Three quarterbacks. They all look terrible in the same offense.

The roster has moved and shifted constantly, and yet all the same problems remain. But what hasn't changed? The coaching staff.

[DuckHodges]

najee's 22 yard run was the slowest 20 yard run i've ever seen. this guy is only hyped due to being picked in the first round and nothing more

[DuckHodges]

My thoughts:

This is totally 100% on the coaching staff. I started getting worried with all the preseason hype going around, because Tomlin coached teams always had this in common: When the media starts singing their praises, they quickly lay an egg. Seriously, it's almost like these guys are always going to buy into their own hype, and think they're better than they really are. End result? You get an unprepared team that has the look of shock when the opponent comes in not intimidated by them.

I get that trap games happen to the best of them, but to come in unprepared in a HOME game vs a known contender, and put a shit effort like this? That's even more damning.

At least Gentry isn't on the team anymore or we would've saw the Gentry TE screen this game Canada can't help but try to outsmart himself... And speaking of Canada, doesn't it appear that his game plan never changes based on opponents he's playing? It's almost like you watch film of any Steelers game and you probably can figure out what they're going to try in any game.

[Mach1]

My thoughts:

This is totally 100% on the coaching staff. I started getting worried with all the preseason hype going around, because Tomlin coached teams always had this in common: When the media starts singing their praises, they quickly lay an egg. Seriously, it's almost like these guys are always going to buy into their own hype, and think they're better than they really are. End result? You get an unprepared team that has the look of shock when the opponent comes in not intimidated by them.

I get that trap games happen to the best of them, but to come in unprepared in a HOME game vs a known contender, and put a shit effort like this? That's even more damning.

At least Gentry isn't on the team anymore or we would've saw the Gentry TE screen this game Canada can't help but try to outsmart himself... And speaking of Canada, doesn't it appear that his game plan never changes based on opponents he's playing? It's almost like you watch film of any Steelers game and you probably can figure out what they're going to try in any game.

It's been like that for several years.

[that1guy]

This franchise is getting what it deserves good and hard. They chose to put Mike Tomlin on a pedestal and refused to critique the man. The Steelers appear to have regressed. The offensive line looks worse, the run game and WR Corp worse and Kenny really,really struggled. On the defensive side the D line couldn't stop a nosebleed and the secondary with the exception of Pat Pete look like a major downgrade. The man who is supposed to put it all together cannot and has shown that for the better part of a decade yet the Steelers brass not only refuse to replace him, they won't make moves to put good Coordinators at his side. Until Tomlin is gone the needle will continue to point south.

[Rotorhead]

Well, I guess he is still Crapnada

[86WARD]

It's been like that for several years.

And that one falls on Tomlin and his stubbornness to fix his mistakes.

[86WARD]

This franchise is getting what it deserves good and hard. They chose to put Mike Tomlin on a pedestal and refused to critique the man. The Steelers appear to have regressed. The offensive line looks worse, the run game and WR Corp worse and Kenny really,really struggled. On the defensive side the D line couldn't stop a nosebleed and the secondary with the exception of Pat Pete look like a major downgrade. The man who is supposed to put it all together cannot and has shown that for the better part of a decade yet the Steelers brass not only refuse to replace him, they won't make moves to put good Coordinators at his side. Until Tomlin is gone the needle will continue to point south.

Pat Pete was average at best…

[that1guy]

Pat Pete was average at best…

I remember a certain player who didn't attend day 2 of the draft because he was upset he didn't get picked in the 1st round, who was that guy?

[86WARD]

I remember a certain player who didn't attend day 2 of the draft because he was upset he didn't get picked in the 1st round, who was that guy?

Not sure…don’t remember seeing him then or today…

[Rotorhead]

Not sure…don’t remember seeing him then or today…

Maybe they could have put him on Aiyuk to see if we could have slowed him down?

[Mojouw]

I can see some of what you guys are saying BUT....there are some fugly statlines all around the NFL. Several from actual legit SB contenders and many from teams that are in that muddled "are they good or are they actually bad" zone the Steelers are in.

I was pretty pissy during the game...but, overall, it just isn't surprising. They are a rebuilding team with major roster flaws that is trying to integrate a ton of new guys and many of the "key" players just got somewhere between their 1st and 18th NFL game in.

But again....for this team....it ALL hangs on KP. And today he was absolutely awful. Yes, the play-calling did him no favors. But he left many important plays (that were there) out on the field. He showed no ability to handle a pass rush, throw with anticipation, and his (vaunted?) accuracy totally deserted him.

You can have whoever you want calling plays, but that total meltdown from your QB is hard to overcome.

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Maybe they could have put him on Aiyuk to see if we could have slowed him down?

A certain SS that now plays in Philly might have looked pretty nice defending a hulking WR like Aiyuk. Certainly better than Kazee arriving from off-screen to get tossed aside.

[Steel Peon]

The roster has moved and shifted constantly, and yet all the same problems remain. But what hasn't changed? The coaching staff.

All of this coaching staff is, and has been, comprised of The Tomlin Stooges™. This is why Brian Flores left, because he has his own plan and won't be a stooge.

[Steeler-in-west]

Tomlin has won by motivating players, he’s won with superior talent and assistance from a decent coaching staff. Looks like he has none of that now, except for his motivational speeches.

I’ll admit that KP didn’t look good. Irrespective of the poor play design he should be able to hit the open man accurately - specially with his mobility and smarts - he sh** his pants out there today. Hope it’s a one game thing.

[86WARD]

I can see some of what you guys are saying BUT....there are some fugly statlines all around the NFL. Several from actual legit SB contenders and many from teams that are in that muddled "are they good or are they actually bad" zone the Steelers are in.

I was pretty pissy during the game...but, overall, it just isn't surprising. They are a rebuilding team with major roster flaws that is trying to integrate a ton of new guys and many of the "key" players just got somewhere between their 1st and 18th NFL game in.

But again....for this team....it ALL hangs on KP. And today he was absolutely awful. Yes, the play-calling did him no favors. But he left many important plays (that were there) out on the field. He showed no ability to handle a pass rush, throw with anticipation, and his (vaunted?) accuracy totally deserted him.

You can have whoever you want calling plays, but that total meltdown from your QB is hard to overcome.

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A certain SS that now plays in Philly might have looked pretty nice defending a hulking WR like Aiyuk. Certainly better than Kazee arriving from off-screen to get tossed aside.

You saying that Pickett sucks after this game is kinda the same as everyone who said he was the next coming after the preseason. Maybe he's bad, maybe he's the next coming...the sample size is still way too small and you really aren't getting a good sample either way with an OC who has a proven terrible track record.

[Mojouw]

You saying that Pickett sucks after this game is kinda the same as everyone who said he was the next coming after the preseason. Maybe he's bad, maybe he's the next coming...the sample size is still way too small and you really aren't getting a good sample either way with an OC who has a proven terrible track record.

Notice I said "today".

Today he stunk and played jittery all afternoon.

There's no way better oc does anything with the steaming turd KP put out there today.

Heck, he might go on and play amazing the rest of the season. But he was flat out awful this Sunday.

[pepsyman1]

Calvin Austin is supposedly a burner, but he's running quick outs and we never took a shot downfield with him, or even run a jet sweep.

The roster has moved and shifted constantly, and yet all the same problems remain. But what hasn't changed? The coaching staff.

I agree with everything you said.....BUT, I think they did try Austin on a jet sweep on the 2nd play of the game and it lost a yard...lol

[Rotorhead]

Notice I said "today".

Today he stunk and played jittery all afternoon.

There's no way better oc does anything with the steaming turd KP put out there today.

Heck, he might go on and play amazing the rest of the season. But he was flat out awful this Sunday.

He did play poorly, but a better OC with an actual scheme or the ability to adjust the game plan, can make a difference when a young QB is having an off game. Easy open throws to get into a rhythm can usually correct a bad start. More time in a clean pocket to settle down can help (meaning putting in 2 TEs to help).

Not saying that would have helped today, but those are things that a good OC can do to help.

[Mojouw]

He did play poorly, but a better OC with an actual scheme or the ability to adjust the game plan, can make a difference when a young QB is having an off game. Easy open throws to get into a rhythm can usually correct a bad start. More time in a clean pocket to settle down can help (meaning putting in 2 TEs to help).

Not saying that would have helped today, but those are things that a good OC can do to help.

That stuff was there to a degree. KP missed multiple open throws. He fled fairly stable pockets.

Even that 4th down completion to McFarland was harder than it needed to be. That was a nothing throw in the NFL level and KP almost screwed it up.

I'm.all for shit canning Canada but KP was a MAJOR part of the problem today.

Saying anything different is just desperate attempt to stay positive. New information comes out and shows me stuff I didn't see on TV and I'll back off. But until then, KP is squarely on thepart of tye problem list.

[Steeldude]

It's ok though because Tomlin has never had a losing season. Let's keep up the mediocrity, that's really what counts.

[Born2Steel]

That stuff was there to a degree. KP missed multiple open throws. He fled fairly stable pockets.

Even that 4th down completion to McFarland was harder than it needed to be. That was a nothing throw in the NFL level and KP almost screwed it up.

I'm.all for shit canning Canada but KP was a MAJOR part of the problem today.

Saying anything different is just desperate attempt to stay positive. New information comes out and shows me stuff I didn't see on TV and I'll back off. But until then, KP is squarely on thepart of tye problem list.

There was also a lot of players running toward the sidelines instead of get upfield after the catch. There’s plenty of blame to go around today.

[Mojouw]

There was also a lot of players running toward the sidelines instead of get upfield after the catch. There’s plenty of blame to go around today.

Sure. Team loss and all that.

But what, for just today, was the difference between Pickett and Rudolph?

If this is KP's second year leap, it is a leap into the backup QB abyss.

[Born2Steel]

Sure. Team loss and all that.

But what, for just today, was the difference between Pickett and Rudolph?

If this is KP's second year leap, it is a leap into the backup QB abyss.

The 2-minute offense executed and scored pretty easily at the end of the half. What was the difference in execution? So many things went wrong today.

[Mojouw]

The 2-minute offense executed and scored pretty easily at the end of the half. What was the difference in execution? So many things went wrong today.

Everyone looks good in a 2 minute offense. They tried to go tempo other times and it wasn't good.

Lots went wrong.

KP's poor play was top 3 on that list for me.

[Rotorhead]

Everyone looks good in a 2 minute offense. They tried to go tempo other times and it wasn't good.

Lots went wrong.

KP's poor play was top 3 on that list for me.

We get it, you don’t like KP. As much as you want to reiterate that, he wasn’t the only issue, or the main issue.

[DuckHodges]

We get it, you don’t like KP. As much as you want to reiterate that, he wasn’t the only issue, or the main issue.

I have to disagree, he had a number of drive killers where if he was on target, would have extended the drive. KP easily played one of the worst games of his career today. And I'm a big KP fan.

With that said, there was an excuse last year for this kind of performance, but players are expected to make a sizable jump in year 2. His play today didn't inspire any confidence at all, not even a little.

[Mojouw]

I've been pretty dang positive about KP. I like Kenny. Go back and read any of my posts. I got reservations but I've been majority positive.

I'm not going to let my frustration with Canada prevent m from.seeing what was on my TV all afternoon.

Like Duck said above, KP missed plays.

[Born2Steel]

Everyone looks good in a 2 minute offense. They tried to go tempo other times and it wasn't good.

Lots went wrong.

KP's poor play was top 3 on that list for me.

Right or wrong, QBs typically get judged on 3rd downs. KP was awful on 3rd downs. He looked uncomfortable, he was starring down guys, he threw several passes behind his target which could have moved the chains. KP played poorly from beginning to end.

[Rotorhead]

I've been pretty dang positive about KP. I like Kenny. Go back and read any of my posts. I got reservations but I've been majority positive.

I'm not going to let my frustration with Canada prevent m from.seeing what was on my TV all afternoon.

Like Duck said above, KP missed plays.

Of course he did, he played poorly, but we couldn’t run the ball, he was sacked 5x cause our WRs weren’t open and his dump offs were even covered. The OL was dominated from start to finish, the defense had breakdowns at key times and the OC didn’t have any adjustments to the 49ers defense at all. Oh, and our punter was terrible yet again. KP played terrible, but he wasn’t the only one, which was my point.

[Rotorhead]

BTW:
Joe Burrow 14-31 82yds
Deshaun Watson 16-29 154yds 1TD 1 INT
Lamar Jackson 17-22 169yds 1 INT
Kenny Pickett 31-46 233 1TD 2 INT

So if we make decisions about how good a QB is based on week one . . .