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    Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    In the first 2-3 rounds....

    I'm talking about players it's possible the steelers will draft but you won't be happy if that happens

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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Since Mel Kiper keeps repeatedly mocking Zay Flowers as the Steelers pick at 17, I can state that I would not be happy at all with that selection.

    However, I think there is no chance at all the Steelers select Zay Flowers at 17, and I have no idea what Mel is smoking to keep mocking Flowers to the Steelers in the 1st round.

    I really want the 1st four picks of this draft to be some combination of the following positions: OT, CB, DL, and ILB. I know some have mocked Brian Branch to the Steelers. I would not necessarily be disappointed if he was picked in the 2nd round, but not at 17.

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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Anything other than a top OT or CB would have me disappointed. The level of disappointment could vary…


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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    For Round 1

    Jordan Addison or other small WR
    A guard
    Myles Murphy
    An interior DL not named Jalen Carter

    For rounds 2-3....less concerned about any specific player or list of positions.

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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Any offensive lineman with the first two picks, unless there really is no one good available on the defensive side of the ball (there will be).

    We could use help at literally every defensive position except OLB, and even there we could use depth although I don't think that's worth one of those picks either. We should be able to get impact players at any of those positions with those picks.

    What I am saying is that the difference the quality and impact of a DL, ILB, CB, S that you get in mid-late R1 versus mid-late R2 is much greater than the difference between the impact of a mid-late R1 offensive lineman and a R2 lineman. Unless there's some too-good-to-be-true situation like DeCastro, I hope we don't do it, and I can't even think of any players like that this year. And remember, even when it was made up of almost all R1 and R2 picks including DeCastro and Pouncey, the line still sucked shit until we got the coaching sorted out.
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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Ben Bresee DT at 17
    Kelee Ringo CB in the first 2 rounds
    Dawand Jones OT at 17
    Any WR in the first 3 rounds

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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    QB, TE, RB, or WR. If we draft any of these positions in the first three rounds i'll be disappointed - we have more pressing needs

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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    If they’re playmakers I don’t care what their name is and what position they play.

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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    If they’re playmakers I don’t care what their name is and what position they play.
    100%! I actually quit using the mock simulators when I found myself with a 3rd round option to take Bryce Young. How do you pass him up in the 3rd round? Even with KP you gotta go QB there.

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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    QB, TE, RB, or WR. If we draft any of these positions in the first three rounds i'll be disappointed - we have more pressing needs
    If Robinson is there at 17 I would not be opposed to that selection.


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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    If they’re playmakers I don’t care what their name is and what position they play.
    Agree.


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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    If Robinson is there at 17 I would not be opposed to that selection.
    I would be very surprised if the steelers draft Robinson

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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Steelers usually draft well so i don't judge a pick until I've seen them play
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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    I would be very surprised if the steelers draft Robinson
    I would be surprised…but not opposed to it and I can see the thought behind it.


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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    I would be surprised…but not opposed to it and I can see the thought behind it.
    Not me. Not at 17. Maybe not even at 32. Any RB that early would be a mistake, IMO.

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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Not me. Not at 17. Maybe not even at 32. Any RB that early would be a mistake, IMO.


    I don't see them drafting a RB that high either. And I love Robinson.

    Something that would be interesting is if a player like Devon Achane drops. Maybe a shot at a super-fast, shifty, change-of-pace back that can do a lot of things on the field is something they would consider if he lasts long enough. I doubt he will, but a completely different type of back that is extremely explosive might interest them.

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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    QB, TE, RB, or WR. If we draft any of these positions in the first three rounds i'll be disappointed - we have more pressing needs
    i couldn't disagree more on TE. having 2 high quality TE's isn't a bad thing if you wanna run 2 TE formations. if i remember right teams struggled with the gronk and hernandez combination. plus it fortifies the position from injury. im just saying it wouldnt be a wasted pick.

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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    i couldn't disagree more on TE. having 2 high quality TE's isn't a bad thing if you wanna run 2 TE formations. if i remember right teams struggled with the gronk and hernandez combination. plus it fortifies the position from injury. im just saying it wouldnt be a wasted pick.
    we already have Conner Hayward to go with PF, not to mention Gentry. That’s not enough? I get what your saying but given what we have, id look at other positions of more need - like fortifying the CB, ILB positions or OT

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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Not me. Not at 17. Maybe not even at 32. Any RB that early would be a mistake, IMO.
    I agree that it’s not ideal and wouldn’t make that pick myself However, he has one year left on his deal after 2023 and an option year at a rookie deal. If they are committed to becoming a run team…If you were to draft Robinson, you reset that position by two years, more in line with Kenny, you upgrade that position at the same time (according to most that compare the two) and you have a tradeable asset in Harris. If that’s the thought process, I can understand why they would make that pick but again, not what I’d be looking to do if I were making the pick.

    If he’s available at 32 and the BPA, I’d be looking to take him there or looking to trade the pick.


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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Deonte Banks- Dude looks like tarzan but plays like Jane. He is physically gifted and has upside but not worth #17. If he fell to #49 I would be fine with the pick.
    Darnell Wright- RT only with short arms. Again I would be fine with him at #49 just not #17 like I have seen him linked to us.
    Karl Brooks- I have seen mock having the Steelers take him in the second round. There's not a lot of tape on him but from what I have seen his sacks were largely due to miscommunication from offensive lines and him getting free runs at the QB. Won't happen in the NFL. To me he's a day three prospect.
    Kelee Ringo- Maybe I just have a bad taste in my mouth from watching him vs OSU but man was he beat like a redheaded stepchild. It. Was. Ugly. I see a lot of mocks have him going #32 and I just don't see it. Maybe #80 just on sure upside potential.

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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by FordFairLane View Post
    Deonte Banks- Dude looks like tarzan but plays like Jane. He is physically gifted and has upside but not worth #17. If he fell to #49 I would be fine with the pick.
    Darnell Wright- RT only with short arms. Again I would be fine with him at #49 just not #17 like I have seen him linked to us.
    Karl Brooks- I have seen mock having the Steelers take him in the second round. There's not a lot of tape on him but from what I have seen his sacks were largely due to miscommunication from offensive lines and him getting free runs at the QB. Won't happen in the NFL. To me he's a day three prospect.
    Kelee Ringo- Maybe I just have a bad taste in my mouth from watching him vs OSU but man was he beat like a redheaded stepchild. It. Was. Ugly. I see a lot of mocks have him going #32 and I just don't see it. Maybe #80 just on sure upside potential.
    I agree with every single point.

    I will add Porter. I think there’s 5 guys who are better. If we are doing the whole legacy thing then grab the next Heyward in the 6th. Linebacker. I like him. Doubt he last until 6th. But they don’t face a 4th or 5th.

    I don’t think any of the receivers are value with our furry three picks. So I won’t be with the Steelers taking a WR type in the first three rounds. TE - very different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    I agree that it’s not ideal and wouldn’t make that pick myself However, he has one year left on his deal after 2023 and an option year at a rookie deal. If they are committed to becoming a run team…If you were to draft Robinson, you reset that position by two years, more in line with Kenny, you upgrade that position at the same time (according to most that compare the two) and you have a tradeable asset in Harris. If that’s the thought process, I can understand why they would make that pick but again, not what I’d be looking to do if I were making the pick.

    If he’s available at 32 and the BPA, I’d be looking to take him there or looking to trade the pick.
    def not a rb unless way back. Come on folks. Sone of you are being ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    I would be very surprised if the steelers draft Robinson
    I would eat poop. There’s zero Chance. Zero. Not even discussion worthy.
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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreegking View Post
    I agree with every single point.

    I will add Porter. I think there’s 5 guys who are better. If we are doing the whole legacy thing then grab the next Heyward in the 5th. Linebacker. I like him. Doubt he last until 5th. But they don’t face a 4th or 5th.
    I think with the addition of Robinson WR is likely out. I guess you never know. If a guy falls to #120 who the Steelers had higher on their board I could see it. Maybe a Tank Dell who might be all over the place on each board. And even if he doesn't start day one because of depth he would immediately replace Gunner as a return guy. Also, keep an eye out for Derius Davis from TCU. I could see the Steelers grabbing him in the 7th just to replace Gunner as a return guy.

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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by FordFairLane View Post
    I think with the addition of Robinson WR is likely out. I guess you never know. If a guy falls to #120 who the Steelers had higher on their board I could see it. Maybe a Tank Dell who might be all over the place on each board. And even if he doesn't start day one because of depth he would immediately replace Gunner as a return guy. Also, keep an eye out for Derius Davis from TCU. I could see the Steelers grabbing him in the 7th just to replace Gunner as a return guy.
    I do not know D Davis.I’ll look into him.

    I am not as anti Gunnar as most. I think he got a bit of a bad rap last year. I mean, he did fumble a ridiculous amount to start the season. So the change needed to happen. But if memory serves me correctly, that trend was a blip. And it happens. It’s not indicative of his career to date, to my knowledge. I expect a rebound annd expect him to be at least league average. And the recent loss in FA of Sims, who was not as good a returner as most thought. He Did nothing for big chunks of the season after an impact plat or two early on. I also think Austin will be used in the return game at times. I’m not worried about the return game.

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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreegking View Post
    I agree with every single point.

    I will add Porter. I think there’s 5 guys who are better. If we are doing the whole legacy thing then grab the next Heyward in the 5th. Linebacker. I like him. Doubt he last until 5th. But they don’t face a 4th or 5th.

    I don’t think any of the receivers are value with our furry three picks. So I won’t be with the Steelers taking a WR type in the first three rounds. TE - very different story.

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    def not a rb unless way back. Come on folks. Sone of you are being ridiculous.

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    I would eat poop. There’s zero Chance. Zero. Not even discussion worthy.
    I don’t think anyone suggested that they pick a RB there.


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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    I don't see them drafting a RB that high either. And I love Robinson.

    Something that would be interesting is if a player like Devon Achane drops. Maybe a shot at a super-fast, shifty, change-of-pace back that can do a lot of things on the field is something they would consider if he lasts long enough. I doubt he will, but a completely different type of back that is extremely explosive might interest them.

    Dri Archer was already drafted by the Steelers tho.....
    Last edited by Dwinsgames; 04-22-2023 at 07:49 PM.
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    Dri Archer was already drafted by the Steelers tho.....


    True.....but he's a lot better than Dri Archer in every way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreegking View Post
    I do not know D Davis.I’ll look into him.

    I am not as anti Gunnar as most. I think he got a bit of a bad rap last year. I mean, he did fumble a ridiculous amount to start the season. So the change needed to happen. But if memory serves me correctly, that trend was a blip. And it happens. It’s not indicative of his career to date, to my knowledge. I expect a rebound annd expect him to be at least league average. And the recent loss in FA of Sims, who was not as good a returner as most thought. He Did nothing for big chunks of the season after an impact plat or two early on. I also think Austin will be used in the return game at times. I’m not worried about the return game.
    I’m actually not anti-gunner either. I think he had a bad spell at turning a he could definitely turn it around. If the Steelers did draft Dell I believe that would push Gunner off the offense. He’s a better return man and way more upside as a receiver. If they drafted Davis I think Gunner would still have a chance as Davis is likely a late round pick or UDFA. But if that’s the case Davis could be a nice addition to the practice squad as Gunner is only signed through 2023.

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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    we already have Conner Hayward to go with PF, not to mention Gentry. That’s not enough? I get what your saying but given what we have, id look at other positions of more need - like fortifying the CB, ILB positions or OT
    the key words in my statement were "high quality". Heyward may be serviceable in spot duty , but he will never be a featured TE or make defensive coaches nervous. i'm talking to starter quality TE's. kenny pickett doesnt have the arm talent to consistently go downfield. his wheel house is accurate short to mid range middle of the field passing , so 2 very good TE's would be just as beneficial as having 2 high end receivers IMO.

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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    the key words in my statement were "high quality". Heyward may be serviceable in spot duty , but he will never be a featured TE or make defensive coaches nervous. i'm talking to starter quality TE's. kenny pickett doesnt have the arm talent to consistently go downfield. his wheel house is accurate short to mid range middle of the field passing , so 2 very good TE's would be just as beneficial as having 2 high end receivers IMO.
    I for one hope they draft one of the better TE in the class mid round 2 .

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    Re: Players you don't want the steelers draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    the key words in my statement were "high quality". Heyward may be serviceable in spot duty , but he will never be a featured TE or make defensive coaches nervous. i'm talking to starter quality TE's. kenny pickett doesnt have the arm talent to consistently go downfield. his wheel house is accurate short to mid range middle of the field passing , so 2 very good TE's would be just as beneficial as having 2 high end receivers IMO.
    Are we sure KP doesn’t have the ability to go deep? Agreed we havent seen much yet but Let’s get him a better coordinator, better line protection and find out. I’m not convinced he’s limited to a short to mid range game. With Canada as our coordinator I feel the best thing to do is strengthen the pass protection and defense. He’s got Pickens, DJ, CA3, PF, CH, even Najee, I think that’s plenty, just get him a new LT,

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