he wrote out that long goodbye message making one think ( or me anyways) that he got a good deal somewhere multi year or whatever but low and behold just a 1 year deal with the Iggles ////
so the Kazee signing was more about the steelers valuing the turnovers provided than what Edmunds brought (IMO)
https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/26...8xlgEp4O6kZ1oY
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I just moved Brian Branch up to very likely at pick 17.
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Good luck to him. He might have been drafted too high, but he turned out to be a solid, if not exceptional player, for a number of years. Not what you hope for from a first round pick but far from a bust.
best of luck to him, always liked him. he's also a better rapper than le'veon
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Hmm,
I wonder if this makes the Peterson signing make more sense. If they can pick up a good CB in the draft, then Peterson plays safety. If not, then he stays at CB until we can get one. I don't remember Kazee's and Witherspoon's play enough from last year to determine how they might do going forward. But I can imagine Peterson is probably better than both, and, if he has truly lost a step, will still be a good safety.
I don't think Peterson would be playing SS. I think Peterson is here to play CB.
I think they value kazee at safety more than most will credit , they kept him on board and if you have guys with balls skills in the secondary with a good to great pass rush you should be a turnover productive team and kazee led the NFL in picks just a few short years ago .... I believe Edmunds was not given another shot is because they wanted Kazee on the field hence a 2 year deal
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When Kazee played, he played well.
Kazee is not gonna look great down in the box. I think he’s only like 175 pounds or something.
They’re going to have to sign or draft some size and tackling for the group.
Norwood is kinda little as well. And MF needs to not waste his time playing run support and banging with TEs.
Edmunds can be replaced but Kazee is not the sole answer. Unless they as their safeties to play a significantly different role this season.
I wouldnt be surprised if we play a 2 deep with the safeties and zone because peterson excelled in zone last year and stunk in man situations and that may well be the reason for the tackling machines on the insider with the linebackers
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A CB with the experience of Peterson should be playing more in zone than in man coverage. If you look at his target%, his man/zone was not targeted as often, or was targeted at a below average rate. I have no problem playing Peterson in man, but I would rather have him in zone. Peterson ranked in the top10 last season for forced incompletions. He's not the long-term solution and 1or2 from this year's draft is still warranted.
I also think the LBs are here due to the RBs in our division. MUST stop the run.
That makes sense. I would still like to see them add a bit more bulk and grit at the safety group. Be it the draft or FA. I think they’ll regret not at least having that option available.
Edmunds ability to move down to the LOS and rattle around without getting totally mauled helped others make plays like INTs.
I still think they may add a veteran or a draft pick. They need 2-3 more players in the back end of that defense. After all this free agency, they still are looking at a CB (or two), S, WR, OT at minimum…
When have we ever done that? Like 2001? If anything we should try to draft a safety; at least we get that right once in a while and it's low-pressure because we possibly have two starters if needed.
See you Space Cowboy ...
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So you'd prefer to waste a draftpick on a position we have covered rather than drafting someone who at least has a possibility of fulfilling a needed role?
I need to see another season from Kazee before i can be confident he can take over the saftey spot. I'm not convinced yet.
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How many seasons do you need? Unless you're wondering if his injury will linger, he's been very productive as a Safety.
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...K/KazeDa00.htm
I do think he is a bit light to hold up over time as a SS, but he did play that role and excelled there.
Looking more and more like a defense heavy draft.
thats 4 starters we’ve lost on defense? Most of it is probably pre planned.
its not like this is his only stop in the NFL , he has lots of tape out there and good success too I might add ...
Kazee is one of those head scratchers as to how we managed to land him to start with (injury aside) I mean the guy led the NFL in INTs a few years back , he isnt over the hill and showed he was still productive in his minimal role here and we got LUCKY (imo) to re sign him at the price we paid giving us a know quantity with known quality for the secondary ...14 career picks in 53 career starts along with 7 forced fumbles 271 tackles ... I mean this guy has put out some nice tape ... yes there is injury concern factor he has started 15 games just twice in his career , 14 games once , then a few seasons with 4 (including his 4 starts with us last year )
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My biggest issue with Branch is he's 6'0 and 190 lbs. Edmunds was 6'1" and 215 lbs.
This.
The Falcons tried many ways to get Kazee on the field because the defense was much better with him out there. I think they even moved Neal to LB at times to get Kazee reps. Kazee started in Dallas.
The playing time is there. My bigger concern would be the minor off-field issues. DUI in Dallas, PED in Pittsburgh. Availability is my main concern…
Agreed, if anything the transition from CB to Free Safety makes more sense than Strong Safety.
Just for fun, in hindsight the better players on the board at the time were Nick Chubb, Darius Leonard or Lamar Jackson.
Minnesota tried to move him there and he said no. Not sure if that thought has changed on his part. Hoping he’s with the Steelers to mentor a draft pick or two.
ohh I agree there are some concerns but ability to play isnt one of them... availability to play is a whole other topic but before you spend a draft pick or even consider spending one you have to ask yourself what the comfort level is with Norwood and I would suspect its pretty comfortable with him entering his 3rd year and he has some NFL experience where he was a mixed bag more good than bad but he was learning he should be "all learned up " by now
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He is slight. He is also only 21yrs old. Kazee is also a smallish Safety. The Steelers may look into a larger player for the SS/Dime role instead but Brian Branch remains Safety#1. Jordan Battle is also a strong contender.
In other words they low balled him , he got insulted and took a 1 year prove it deal elsewhere ...
I mean they need to upgrade the production from that position and if ripping the bandaid off was the only way to do it so be it ... I liked Edmunds for who he was as a team mate and as a player as a guy you could count on to be able to play and be a guy who likely wouldn't be why you lost but he was never a guy who would be the reason why you won either ... We need as many guys who can be the reason why you win on defense as possible because CANADA still impacts the offense here
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Alternatively,
Edmunds saw the premiums that every single one of the Eagles free agents signed for. Figured that if he goes there, the Iggles make another deep playoff run, he's next in line.
Honestly, that was my first thought when I saw where he signed. If he plays well for a strong Eagles defense, he could get the 6-7 million that guys like Gardner-Johnson and Bell got. And that is about the top end of the SS FA market.
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Then again, maybe he's a backup for the Eagles.
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