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    Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    Officially screwed at CB…lol.


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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    ugh .................................................. ..............................
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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    Played outside, slot and a little bit of safety in some formations.

    Big loss.



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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    It’s not even a terrible deal…

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    It’s not even a terrible deal…
    I would gladly have seen the steelers pay that ... he was a top 5 corner and to get him at top 15-18 money is a great deal for a player of his ability and knowledge
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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    It’s not even a terrible deal…
    True, it appears to be a very reasonable deal. I have to wonder why Sutton is no longer with the Steelers at that price. Maybe the Steelers made no real effort to keep him, and Sutton felt jilted and left without giving the Steelers a chance to match or offer more. I guess it is also possible the Steelers do not think he is worth that much.

    CB was already a need, and now it is a massive need to be addressed in FA and/or the draft.

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    ouch.....

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    Wow! The Steelers must not think Sutton is even close to a CB1 because they just let Sutton go for CB2 money. I sure hope Kahn has a plan and they’ve targeted a CB in free agency. Not a great start to free agency.

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    Wow! The Steelers must not think Sutton is even close to a CB1 because they just let Sutton go for CB2 money. I sure hope Kahn has a plan and they’ve targeted a CB in free agency. Not a great start to free agency.
    He must have a plan.

    Also, do the Steelers offer two seasons guaranteed? May be why that deal was done in Detroit and not Pittsburgh.


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    There must be more to it…must be some plan in place…right??

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    Too Bad. However, cornerback is arguably one of (if not THE) deepest position in the draft.
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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    For all those who said "I don't mind that we're paying Trubisky $8 million to be a backup" and "paying William Jackson III $3 million to sit on IR didn't hurt anything" ... well, here's what that money could've been used for. Instead, now we've got one more problem.
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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    For all those who said "I don't mind that we're paying Trubisky $8 million to be a backup" and "paying William Jackson III $3 million to sit on IR didn't hurt anything" ... well, here's what that money could've been used for. Instead, now we've got one more problem.
    The steelers could easily offer this contract to Sutton even with that.....It's just the steelers or Sutton said no to it...I think this is more about the steelers....

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    The steelers could easily offer this contract to Sutton even with that.....It's just the steelers or Sutton said no to it...I think this is more about the steelers....
    so you are saying the team is stupid then or smart ?

    the way I see it is its a really poor move ( or non move if you will) ....

    as it stands we have NO starting quality corners on the roster ...

    sure there is spoon who can be one of the best in the league this week and the next two stink it up to then rebound the following 3 as all world and then go on season ending IR but thats not my idea of a solid starter on paper ....
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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    so you are saying the team is stupid then or smart ?

    the way I see it is its a really poor move ( or non move if you will) ....

    as it stands we have NO starting quality corners on the roster ...

    sure there is spoon who can be one of the best in the league this week and the next two stink it up to then rebound the following 3 as all world and then go on season ending IR but thats not my idea of a solid starter on paper ....
    They are stupid...Just look at my post 14

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    REMEMBER:

    Nothing is official until Wednesday…

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    REMEMBER:

    Nothing is official until Wednesday…
    Im hoping for a "Ryan Clark is signing with Miami" situation
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    We are not Buffalo, We are not Miami. We are the Steelers, we dont blow out teams, we cock tease for ratings and keep games close.

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    I think the primary reason they didn't re-sign Sutton was the overall salary of the defense. The most expensive in the league. They needed to get cheaper and balance out so they are going with a cheap veteran and a high draft pick. Not terrible logic.

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    The steelers way were great 10-15 years ago and before that but now,this is just terrible....The steelers are so slow to adjust of the current NFL.Just awful

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    Didn't I read somewhere Mr. Dulac said Sutton wouldn't get $10 mil a year?

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    Didn't I read somewhere Mr. Dulac said Sutton wouldn't get $10 mil a year?
    Dulac know nothing...So far I had predict that Hargrave was to have at least 20 millions per year and Sutton at least 10....This is not 2018!

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Dulac know nothing...So far I had predict that Hargrave was to have at least 20 millions per year and Sutton at least 10....This is not 2018!
    I forgot to add the I will correct that

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    The guaranteed money is less than $8M/yr.

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    The guaranteed money is less than $8M/yr.
    Might be the first two years guaranteed though…which for the Steelers, that’s a big deal…

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    It seems difficult to wrap our heads around right now. But in a couple weeks when all the other moves shake out...it likely makes more sense.

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    It seems difficult to wrap our heads around right now. But in a couple weeks when all the other moves shake out...it likely makes more sense.
    It have no choice....

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    It seems difficult to wrap our heads around right now. But in a couple weeks when all the other moves shake out...it likely makes more sense.
    it better because at this current state of the team Maulet is likely a starter ..........let that sink in
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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    They were never going to pay Sutton that kind of coin. We can debate where it falls within the overall CB salary market leaguewide, but the Steelers have never placed that kind of value on the position.

    They pay front 7 and safeties and get by with adequate at best CBs. Then they hope they get lucky here or there with a draft and develop guy. They have been doing that for what? 20 years? More?

    Finally, you can go look up the stats and various ratings. Very (very) few CBs are good season to season. They have an up year and then a down and then an up or whatever. Sutton just had the best year he's ever had. Steelers weren't going to pay for that year and then have him have a down one.

    I am not saying all of these things are correct or that we should fall in step with that line of thinking. But once Sutton got offers north of $8 million per year...Khan and company likely helped him pack.

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    They were never going to pay Sutton that kind of coin. We can debate where it falls within the overall CB salary market leaguewide, but the Steelers have never placed that kind of value on the position.

    They pay front 7 and safeties and get by with adequate at best CBs. Then they hope they get lucky here or there with a draft and develop guy. They have been doing that for what? 20 years? More?

    Finally, you can go look up the stats and various ratings. Very (very) few CBs are good season to season. They have an up year and then a down and then an up or whatever. Sutton just had the best year he's ever had. Steelers weren't going to pay for that year and then have him have a down one.

    I am not saying all of these things are correct or that we should fall in step with that line of thinking. But once Sutton got offers north of $8 million per year...Khan and company likely helped him pack.
    The Steelers haven't had a top-flight corner since Woodson, and even then they couldn't keep him on board forever. They like the Ike Taylor/Deshea Townsend types who can do as they are asked to do.

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    Quote Originally Posted by Edman View Post
    The Steelers haven't had a top-flight corner since Woodson, and even then they couldn't keep him on board forever. They like the Ike Taylor/Deshea Townsend types who can do as they are asked to do.
    Yeah they wouldn't want another Rod Woodson! lol

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    Re: Detroit Lions Sign Steelers CB Cam Sutton

    Don’t let the splashier names in free agency overshadow this signing. There are two key Next Gen Stats categories in which Sutton ranked as the third-best outside corner in the NFL last season: receptions over expected allowed (-9.5) and ballhawk rate (20.8%). Though he was part of a Steelers secondary that had some challenges as a unit, Sutton allowed just 411 total yards in coverage, according to PFF, which ranked fifth-best among corners who logged at least 400 coverage snaps.
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