CDC Changed Vinyl Chloride Toxicity Info 11 Days Before Derailment

[Orion]

https://principia-scientific.com/cdc...re-derailment/

It’s starting to seem that the CDC was aware there would be a major event involving Vinyl Chloride BEFORE the Ohio train derailment
In late January 2023, the CDC changed the toxicological profile of Vinyl Chloride on its website.
It was the first edit on the page since 2006.

After 17 years of inactivity, and just a couple weeks before the train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio, the CDC decides to update its toxicological profile on Vinyl Chloride.
The update changes the lethal exposure from 100PPM to 100,000PPM. What are the odds? — Cognitive Dissident (@STP48315) February 16, 2023

17 years later they claimed that the chemical was significantly less toxic.

This comes among a flurry of bizarre situations surrounding the Ohio train derailment.

Including a film that seemed to prophesize the situation and journalists being arrested for covering the event.
The EPA has said that the air and water are safe although they have refused independent testing.
Recently, Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune in North Carolina has become the focus of a massive class action lawsuit from those who suffered severe health issues after being in contact with contaminated water at the base.
One of the three containments that harmed those involved was Vinyl Chloride.
According to a Veteran’s attorney, Berry Law, the government knew the water at Camp Lejeune was contaminated in the 1970s but the threat wasn’t made public until 2012.
Exposure to Vinyl Chloride and the other toxic chemicals in Camp Lejeune’s water have been connected to 17 different illnesses.
Those illnesses included:
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[Orion]

and where is the pedophile kid sniffer ? oh he is in the Ukraine pretending to be under air raids offering the cross dressing homo president of Ukraine more tax payer dollars to launder.
where's his queer secretary of transportation ? busy butt plug shopping ?

[Mach1]

[86WARD]

A shame it could've been prevented had Trump not withdrawn the rules on trains carrying chemicals. Had that not been withdrawn, none of this would matter. lol. Nah...still Sleepy Joe's fault...

[silver & black]

A shame it could've been prevented had Trump not withdrawn the rules on trains carrying chemicals. Had that not been withdrawn, none of this would matter. lol. Nah...still Sleepy Joe's fault...

Well, old Sleepy has to take the blame for something. After all... Trump is at fault for everything that's wrong in the entire world since........................ just ask those "ladies" on the View!

[Penglose]

Well, old Sleepy has to take the blame for something. After all... Trump is at fault for everything that's wrong in the entire world since........................ just ask those "ladies" on the View!

Just ask 86ward.

[Mojouw]

A shame it could've been prevented had Trump not withdrawn the rules on trains carrying chemicals. Had that not been withdrawn, none of this would matter. lol. Nah...still Sleepy Joe's fault...

C'mon. Remember, ALL government regulation is bad. It strangles innovation and entrepreneurial spirit. That's America, man! Any removal of regulations is just plain patriotism and good common sense...not kowtowing to the donor class who bought and paid for your entire agenda...no way, Jose! Oh...wait...Jose got stopped at the border....No Way, Jesse!

[Mach1]

A shame it could've been prevented had Trump not withdrawn the rules on trains carrying chemicals. Had that not been withdrawn, none of this would matter. lol. Nah...still Sleepy Joe's fault...

That has already been debunked.

However, even if this safety rule had still been in effect, it would not have applied to the Norfolk Southern train that derailed in East Palestine, because it was not categorized as a high-hazard cargo train.

Although the Norfolk Southern train contained hazardous materials, including vinyl chloride, it did not meet the Department of Transportation’s narrow definition of a high-hazard flammable unit train in that it didn’t have at least 70 cars containing flammable materials, such as crude oil or ethanol. The chemicals it was carrying fall into a different classification not included in this definition.

The National Transportation Safety Board told PolitiFact that the Norfolk Southern train was categorized as a "general merchandise" train and it used "pneumatic brakes," or conventional air brakes.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ins-was-repea/

[steelcityboyz]

That has already been debunked.



https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ins-was-repea/

Trump still living rent free in some of these posters heads lol. Trump could find a cure for cancer and they still would find a way to bitch and moan about him.

[Dwinsgames]

A shame it could've been prevented had Trump not withdrawn the rules on trains carrying chemicals. Had that not been withdrawn, none of this would matter. lol. Nah...still Sleepy Joe's fault...

probably should get your facts straight before making a foolish comment like that .........

those rules were made but never installed during the Obama administration Trump didn't withdraw them he didn't do anything with them at all Just like Obama didn't , just like Biden didn't but ohhh orange man bad gtfo with your derangement syndrome bullshit

[86WARD]

probably should get your facts straight before making a foolish comment like that .........

those rules were made but never installed during the Obama administration Trump didn't withdraw them he didn't do anything with them at all Just like Obama didn't , just like Biden didn't but ohhh orange man bad gtfo with your derangement syndrome bullshit

Oh imagine that, a fact check on something that's not real. Not much unlike a lot of the other foolish garbage posted in the soapbox. ANyone can post garbage in these forums. lol. But yes, orange man bad and his followers are very weak minded...

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If only this were true...it would be awesome!!

[Orion]

A shame it could've been prevented had Trump not withdrawn the rules on trains carrying chemicals. Had that not been withdrawn, none of this would matter. lol. Nah...still Sleepy Joe's fault...

biden and buttplug pete have had 2 YEARS to make changes. could it be they also like that railroad lobby money ?

[Penglose]

A shame it could've been prevented had Trump not withdrawn the rules on trains carrying chemicals. Had that not been withdrawn, none of this would matter. lol. Nah...still Sleepy Joe's fault...

Saddest part of this post is that you're gullible enough to believe it.

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Because funding Ukraine and Israel is more important than actual Americans that need help.

And don't forget Maui. I saw contrasting videos yesterday of life in Ukraine and life in Maui. You wouldn't believe it.

[Mojouw]

Oh. Ok. So it was ANOTHER episode of de-regulation that contributed. That's much better.

Remember when the railworkers were threatening to go on strike earlier and everyone basically told them to shut the hell up and get back to work....almost like they knew what they were talking about....

[steelreserve]

Oh. Ok. So it was ANOTHER episode of de-regulation that contributed. That's much better.

Remember when the railworkers were threatening to go on strike earlier and everyone basically told them to shut the hell up and get back to work....almost like they knew what they were talking about....

Yeah, I'm sure higher pay and adopting asinine union rules about working hours will prevent mechanical problems on trains. We should just do what unions say, that always solves everything.

Maybe it'll be like that one time when they were demanding a $15 an hour minimum wage - and all the places where they did that suddenly ended up NOT being crime-infested shitholes with homeless people and garbage everywhere, and the people there all stopped complaining that housing was unaffordable and the cost of living was too high. It was really amazing how that solved so many problems, the government is always the answer! Oh wait, I meant it actually did the opposite of that. No problem though, they can always just double down!

[Mojouw]

Yeah, I'm sure higher pay and adopting asinine union rules about working hours will prevent mechanical problems on trains. We should just do what unions say, that always solves everything.

Maybe it'll be like that one time when they were demanding a $15 an hour minimum wage - and all the places where they did that suddenly ended up NOT being crime-infested shitholes with homeless people and garbage everywhere, and the people there all stopped complaining that housing was unaffordable and the cost of living was too high. It was really amazing how that solved so many problems, the government is always the answer! Oh wait, I meant it actually did the opposite of that. No problem though, they can always just double down!

Weird...it is almost like that wasn't the only thing they were striking over....lack of regulations, dangerous train lengths and cargoes, neutered safety regulations, poor maintenance schedules...but solid job on buying the anti-labor talking points. You forgot to spice it up with a dash of "just get robots to do their jobs". Gotta keep up with the times.

[steelreserve]

Weird...it is almost like that wasn't the only thing they were striking over....lack of regulations, dangerous train lengths and cargoes, neutered safety regulations, poor maintenance schedules...but solid job on buying the anti-labor talking points. You forgot to spice it up with a dash of "just get robots to do their jobs". Gotta keep up with the times.

Ah, so it's the government's fault. In that case, Democrats need to own this. Why don't Democrats care about safety when people are DYING?

[Mojouw]

Ah, so it's the government's fault. In that case, Democrats need to own this. Why don't Democrats care about safety when people are DYING?

Sure.

Maybe all those politicos from whatever side of the aisle that let industry write their own regulations, then convinced their constituents that for profit enterprises would never fail to do the right thing, and that government interference would only ever hurt people should hold some press conferences and let people ask them about regulations now...

[Mach1]

[Dwinsgames]

for the record I have a dog in this fight , East Palestine Ohio is 10.9 miles as the crow flies away from my home according to alexa... this is a BIG DEAL , I have family even closer and friends that live in that small town!!

[Dwinsgames]

[Dwinsgames]

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the problem with most of you here weighing in on this topic is your ONLY source of what is going on is the national media ....

difference being is here we are living it , we have citizens reporting locally on what they actually are seeing and experiencing , we see the photos of places we have actually been so when the dead fish are laying there we recognize the location and know it is real ....

all thew while you are living in make believe land that everything is going to be ok because your Guberment says so ...........

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you have been sold a bill of goods !!

we have very few birds 10 miles away , we have dead animals , wildlife is perishing we just wait and see as to when birds , fish , rabbits , chickens and even deer become people .....

but carry on asshats after all living 1000 miles away gives you a birdseye fucking view ...

I'm out

[Dwinsgames]

I still can't get over (or past ) people that only hear what they hear on the evening news that know more about this tragidy than those with boots on the ground that live in this area ...


please tell us more as we have no idea what is really going on we only know what our eyes are showing us...

its crazy that the air was fine (being tested by those with gas masks and hazmats suits) and they come back the next day testing again all suited up again but its okay for the residents to be there 24/7 without any such protective gear

[Mach1]

I still can't get over (or past ) people that only hear what they hear on the evening news that know more about this tragidy than those with boots on the ground that live in this area ...


please tell us more as we have no idea what is really going on we only know what our eyes are showing us

If only there was more government, things like this would never ever happen.

[Dwinsgames]

If only there was more government, things like this would never ever happen.

LOL as if ... the problem is Government and the Railroads ( and other big business) are in bed together ....

The EPA and the like are factions/extensions of government and they are going to dictate what happens .....

truth be told this region should be considered uninhabitable but it wont be because it would cost to much money and bankrupt Southern Pacific and its insurance companies ,,, that is the ONLY reason it wont happen , but you notice Southern Pacific reps have never set foot there they canceled their meeting over safety concerns and never rescheduled , Biden hasnt shown up and take it in the ass Pete might show up 2 weeks later ...... they say water is safe guess what tell all those dead fish that .... wanna prove it to me let me get you a glass out of my friends sink faucet !

[Orion]

LOL as if ... the problem is Government and the Railroads ( and other big business) are in bed together ....

The EPA and the like are factions/extensions of government and they are going to dictate what happens .....

truth be told this region should be considered uninhabitable but it wont be because it would cost to much money and bankrupt Southern Pacific and its insurance companies ,,, that is the ONLY reason it wont happen , but you notice Southern Pacific reps have never set foot there they canceled their meeting over safety concerns and never rescheduled , Biden hasnt shown up and take it in the ass Pete might show up 2 weeks later ...... they say water is safe guess what tell all those dead fish that .... wanna prove it to me let me get you a glass out of my friends sink faucet !

wait....is that why corporations were court ruled as people, and thus are allowed to make huge "campaign contributions" ? you surely arent suggesting our government officials and judges can, and are being bribed .. ..so do you think politicians getting huge book deals, speaking fees and huge salary jobs AFTER they leave office are favors being repaid ? that cheney skank just got a job at virginia university.

[Dwinsgames]

written by a friend and posted on FB ............

lets all take a walk in their shoes for 2 mins ....

Tonight at 8:55pm will be exactly one month since the NS train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio. My home shook. I saw evil flames and smoke rolling into our beautiful night sky.
One thing my PTSD has done to me-I’m blocking out some things, then it’s hitting me straight on. One thing that is not being discussed. There was a second train that night. I stood in my living room and screamed at the top of my lungs. OMG THERE’S A SECOND TRAIN! I heard the horn and I heard the engine downshift and the braking as it came to a stop-right in front of my home. No one realizes how something like this changes you until it happens to you.
I had to make decisions to flee or stay in my home. I had to make decisions that I pray no one I love ever has to endure themselves.
I heard explosions all though the night into and throughout the day on Saturday. We breathed in chemicals and toxic fumes, but we were told it was safe….
As a mother, I had to tell my only child, my son to leave and drive to his Aunt and Uncle’s home the night we were evacuated. You have no idea how difficult that was to watch your only child leave your driveway while Firetrucks were flying down your street and fires were burning in the background.
At this time I didn’t know if this was a terrorist attack…I didn’t know what was happening. I was panicked, not knowing if I would ever see my child again.
All I’ve witnessed from the moment the NS train derailed is complete and utter failure. We’ve been failed repeatedly. Here we are a month later, and people are not getting answers we deserve. Just be honest. Tell us the truth. The more you try to dismiss us. The more angry we are becoming. And we have have every right to be.
This is our life, and We only get one.
Don’t try to dismiss our anger with an I’m sorry this has happened to you….
They stole the last month of my life from me. Time I’ll never get back.
I’ll suffer with memories of this man made disaster-that should have been prevented
for the rest of my life.
I am not a public speaker. I want to remain in my home and snuggle with my 2 doggos, and pretend this never happened to me and the ones we love. But I know if I did this, they’ll be allowed to get away with what they’ve done.
They thought they would-that’s why they rebuilt that track overtop of contaminated soil-hours after it was on fire. They thought they could drive through our town while fires were still burning-and we would just be okay with it.
None of this is okay.
We only have one life, and I’m not losing any more of mine, without fighting for
everyone I love.

[silver & black]

I still can't get over (or past ) people that only hear what they hear on the evening news that know more about this tragidy than those with boots on the ground that live in this area ...


please tell us more as we have no idea what is really going on we only know what our eyes are showing us...

its crazy that the air was fine (being tested by those with gas masks and hazmats suits) and they come back the next day testing again all suited up again but its okay for the residents to be there 24/7 without any such protective gear

I think those of us that are near to this have a different outlook. You are closer than I am, but I'm only 58 miles away. Our POS Governor thinks it's just fine to drink the water. If that's the case... why are the schools locking up the drinking fountains?

There is much to question.... and more to know. I believe this is all part of the "plan". I know... conpspiracy theorist, tin foil hat wearing fool. Just remember: Noah was a conspiracy theorist... until it started raining.

[Mojouw]

Ok. I gotta know. What is the "plan"?

The government or some other mastermind organization is attempting to depopulate dying towns along the rust belt? I mean I live and work in a series of dying towns in the Upper Midwest. No one needs to do anything to depopulate them. That's taking care of itself.

I am honestly not trying to be a jerk. But I hear people, Silver and Black and Dwins are not the only ones, say that it is an inside job or part of the plan...what plan? What are the goals?

[steelreserve]

There is no "sinister plan" by the government to depopulate the country, any more than there is "systemic racism" that the liberals love tilting at. That would be the closest equivalent. They are both boogeymen for chemtrail people and make the hucksters who promote them look like fools.

The closest thing to a "plan" here is that the incompetence of the government knows no bounds, except when it comes to protecting and entrenching itself, and so it is happy to position itself as the answer any time there is some weird accident or random lunatic. Serendipitously, the average liberal views the government as a primary way of increasing his own importance, and ironically votes to turn over his own influence and free choice to others. I didn't say it made the most sense, but we are not dealing with the most rational or intelligent people here.

On an indirectly related note, a worrying problem is that the liberal increasingly looks to the government not as a way of advancing policy, but as a means for revenge and spiteful coercion. That dangerous shift in mentality came along with their cultlike obsession with government.

For its part, the Democratic Party's plan is for everyone to be miserable, and for everyone to believe that things are bad and the government is the only solution. They have gotten very effective at manipulating the least intelligent to into believing that, with almost machine-like efficiency. So you are left with a bunch of empty, angry, perpetually miserable people who worship the government. Pretty sad, but also dangerous.

You wonder how it got that way - best guess I've got is that the decline in the importance of religion left a vacuum and something had to take its place as a core belief. Liberals constantly make fun of conservatives for being obsessed with religion; well, look at what you're obsessed with, it's pathetic by comparison.

I know, I know, "cool story bro," the go-to phrase of the week. AKA "I've got nothing, again."