I would take Mitch over Bridgewater if you asked me to choose one of the two. The fact that he is in year two here also has value.Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west
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I would take Mitch over Bridgewater if you asked me to choose one of the two. The fact that he is in year two here also has value.
starter money is at least 30-40 millions now in the current NFL(elite QB is 50 millions and Daniel Jones is 40 millions per year).....And Bridgewater was just terrible last year.He did not win a single game as backup for the dolphins.Mitch help the steelers to win 2 games on 3 as backup in 2022 but too many are still too much focused on his bad game vs Ravens
Says one bloggers opinion…
I’d take Trubisky every day over Dalton at this point. Dalton can’t move or throw.
Nobody signed Bridgewater. He’s still a free agent.
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I'm sure there are reasons for keeping Trubisky and Rudolph that many here can't possibly know. Like this:
https://steelersdepot.com/2023/05/ke...-coach-for-me/
And that’s what I was saying in another thread. It’s that Charlie Batch effect…
Kenny able to ask him questions about where he starts his looks, the game plan, simple stuff. Might also be the reason why they brought Rudolph back because Kenny said, on Ben’s Show, that he was happy with that QB Room.
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The quarterback room as a whole isn't making much money at all. If keeping the continuity in the room and the young QB is getting input from the veterans already there and learning from them.....why not stick with it for now?
I would prefer they let Rudolph walk and get another young developmental guy as the third QB, but I understand the move if Pickett and the team truly believe that Rudolph is helping him learn the position.
Is this list up to date?
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/quarterback/
Because if it is....I can not find anyone under $8 million that is no doubt better than Trubisky (gawd...I can't believe I typed that...).
I guess you can make arguments for Minshew, Baker, Brissett, and that's about it.
The 3 QBs you named have a chance to be a starter for a few week at least,so the steelers were not a option for his 3 QBs!
Minshew may be the only one on that list they’d have a shot at and he’s pretty much a less experienced version of Trubisky.
Its not just any old blogger. SI carries some weight. I mixed up the Bridgewater and Brissett data, my mistake. As for Dalton, he replaced Mitch once already. I think they view Dalton as a steady guy with experience who can be relied upon for a few games. Mitch is not reliable in a backup role, i think he proved that last year. I think that's also why the Steelers picked up MR. They're not comfortable with Mitch. If KP goes down and Mitch starts throwing balls in the dirt or keeps throwing deep passes into double coverage they have someone with experience to replace him.
i think KP's concussion history is creating more QB backup discussion than we would've otherwise had.
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because that was the one game where he was trying to make plays. We saw the real Mitch that game. Anyway, he's not on a best backup list. I think that say alot about his inconsistency as a backup.
I think that Tanner Morgan fits that description as a guy that will compete for the #3 spot at QB. But really not sure that he has great upside, other than maybe becoming a competent #2 QB in the NFL.
I'm still not getting that concerned about who the #3 QB is, but agree that I would like to see a younger guy that has some upside, rather than a veteran who has demonstraed that there is no further upside in his game to this point.
It’s an opinionated article with no factual information by two bloggers. Lol.
The Bears didn’t sign Dalton to replace Trubisky. The Bears failed to trade for Wilson and Dalton was the next best option.
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SI is no longer a respectable outlet. They fired almost everyone that actually knew their elbow from their behind and, particularly on the website side, farmed almost all content generation out to random bloggers they "hired" on like a per click basis or some nonsense. Kind of like the Bleacher Report and SB Nation models.
Agreed that Minshew is likely the only QB on the entire list that they could have signed to "replace" Trubisky. And, as pointed out, that is not necessarily an upgrade.
Interesting to see what they do NEXT off-season -- draft a long term back-up, reenter the FA market, or just roll with what they have....that might be where we really see what they want to do at the position overall. Tin-foil hat time....Weidl talks Khan into doing what the Eagles claim to want to do....lots of QBs all the time.
this is an article about backup QB's, not Ukraine. Its based on QB performance. I'd say that's a good bases to give an opinion on.
Whether he was signed to replace Trubisky or not Dalton did replace him. Not because of injury but because Trubisky stunk
My 2 cents? I like the move for now. QB 4-5 on the PS could slide up if they prove worth or head turning skills, and while not getting game reps, they are LEARNING. Trubisky and Rudolph? Wring em dry for every benefit they bring, then give them a reference letter for future employment in the insurance industry.
It’s not based on performance. That’s clear by looking at the list and the writing style. It’s totally opinion based. They throw a couple meaningless stats in there and if you based off of those, Trubisky is a 10-Time All-Pro compared to some of those. Clearly an opinion article. Lol.
Dalton was signed because they had no other option. He clearly wasn’t signed to “replace” Trubisky like you said. Two different things.
i disagree, of course its performance based. they talk about what the QB's did, talk about record but also how they benefited teams they played for off the bench.
How has Trubisky benefitted the Steelers with his performances? he certainly didn't help much last year.
As backup,it happen twice...You can talk all you want about the ravens game,but in the bucs game,he convert several 3rd down and long at the end of the game to win the game....He was good also vs Panthers....The steelers can have a .500 record or even a winning record with Mitch if Pickett is out for a few game...Mitch is 31-24 in his career...This is just what you want for a backup....A chance to win a game if your starter is out.Not many backup can said the same....Dalton is washed
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The TB game is the ONLY good game he played all season.
The panthers game were also a good game for a backup QB
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If 179 yards and 0 TDs is good. He didn't lose the game, which he did against the Ravens.
Sorry, man. It’s a random opinion clickbait listicle.
It’s the football content equivalent of a Twinkie.
What is clickbait, articles without concrete undebatable facts? the only facts per se in football are W-L records/stats and those can be very misleading. To me its pretty clear the authors watch the games and make assessments. And they get paid by SI - that's better than what many of us do.
I know your not a big MT fan but the only clickbait to me seems to be the notion that MT is in any way shape or form a good backup. He showed as a backup he's very mistake prone and he gets into trouble when he tries to push the ball down the field. to say nothing of his performance as a starter.
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He was 17-22 and he was very good on 3rd down,so it was a very good game for him.This is what you want for a backup...
But it’s not…it’s just a couple bloggers looking at a simple stat line (sometimes) and making some sort of opinion on it. I’d be willing to guess that they still think Trubisky is a starter. Lol.
“Thompson went 1–1, completing 57.1% of his attempts and throwing for 534 yards, one touchdown and three interceptions.”
Trubisky went 2-3, completing 65% of his attempts and throwing for 1252 yards, 4 touchdowns and 5 interceptions.
“Zappe also came off the bench to give the Patriots a quick boost before they got crushed by the Bears on Monday Night Football.”
I don’t recall any quick boosts by Trubisky…lol.
“His (Keenum) high point came with the Vikings in 2017, when he took over for the injured Sam Bradford and led Minnesota to the NFC title game before losing to the Eagles.”
Not even “current stats” for Keenum.
To use this article as the “measuring stick” is just a desperate, desperate move…grasping for anything to make a case.
As I previously mentioned, SI is basically a content farm now. They were acquired multiple times since the early 2000's and basically fired anyone over 25. They are a "brand" and most of their content is just lists of the "X Best Y in Z sport". This generates clicks (unique views) and pumps up the # of unique visitors per day allowing their ownership group to pronounce the brand as healthy. I suspect you or I could get hired by SI if he wanted to later this week.
The in depth reporting and detailed insider driven analysis that most of us grew up with from SI is dead and buried.
An actual "ranking" would pick a set of stats or readily available metrics for evaluation and then use that to evaluate the QB rooms around the league. Instead. the "MMQB Staff" chose to use random opinions for each of the 16 QBs they chose that aren't even the same from author to author.
In their opinion MT is at best #17. Okay. So? In my opinion, and I HATE this thread for making me stick up for MT, he is top 12-ish at least as backups go. I mean this isn't exactly a list of really good QBs: https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchartpos/QB
Trubisky's playstyle shouldn't force them to have to change the offense if Pickett misses significant time, and he's "good enough" in a sea of uninspiring backups. There's clearly some value in that to the front office.
IMO there are two good kinds of backups. Guys with starting experience who had flashes but didn't quite have "it" to lead a team full time,
and guys who you've developed internally who understand what you're doing and have accepted their role.
Now we have one of each. I won't be professing my love for either guy, but it makes sense and it could certainly be worse.
I guess a third kind of backup is a guy with a niche skillset or single exceptional trait that the opposing team simply wasn't prepared for, which is why you advocate the "experiment" route with QB3. Maybe you find a gem, but at worst you have a shot at stealing a win with the ol' bamboozle.
Maybe this is a discussion for the other thread, but: with the new change to the bylaw giving an exemption for dressing three QBs...
-1. I think there won't be too many teams that only go into the season with two QBs anymore, and
-2. I wonder where that will shift the balance league-wide: ie, having QB3 be a known/system guy, or be an experimental guy. Knowing the change was in the pipeline makes the MR signing despite the MT extension, make more sense to me. With your starter, you have to grit your teeth through slumps sometimes, to keep building their experience and confidence. But you don't have to protect a backup's ego in the same way - if Mitch comes in and is stinking it up, bench him for MR. And vice versa. With a third QB helmet not impacting the active roster limit, you don't have to hedge your bets anymore.
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Tanner Morgan has been successful with quality players around him. TC will at least be interesting. Just saw Mason’s contract numbers. They are not fixed on him by any means.
It should be interesting to see how teams deal with it. Hopefully the Steelers can find someone that can:
Trubisky not quite having it is putting it mildly.
there's another backup that would be ideal for KP and that is the veteran with real past success (like Matt Ryan for instance) who's at the end of their career and can serve as a real mentor to KP and still perform in a pinch if needed.
Trubisky still thinks he's a starter and he regrets signing here. How good of a mentor can that be for a young guy like KP? That's more like an aspiring competitor constantly looking over your shoulder waiting for you to get hurt or screw up. And what is he going to teach KP about? Throwing into double teams (Mitch is good at this) or being cool under pressure (Mitch knows nothing about this)?
MR with his flaws is a more suitable backup than MT (add the developmental guy such as Morgan and we're good).
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