Then people can finally shut the hell up about non losing seasons
Then people can finally shut the hell up about non losing seasons
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They were also in this situation in 2013 but they won their last 3 games....But the never have a losing season thing should never be the standard for any team,no matter what
You guys act like the coaches and players talk about this. They don’t. Fans on the internet and supposed experts on TV talk about it.
It’s just noise.
Doesn't make it any less annoyingOriginally Posted by Mojouw
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At this point I'd love to lose our and draft a couple of studs, fire a couple of coordinators
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The Rooneys should talk about what steps they have to take to get the Steelers organization back to being a contender.
Honestly, this place is the only football related content where I see it.
Move away from bad pregame shows and ESPN nonsense and you never have to hear the noise.
They mention it a bunch during the games also, do you also watch with the sound off?
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At least 6 years away and then they lose all the players they currently have…
Sadly that's probably true. Literally every position on the team is a 'need' position other than S, TE, and QB, and maybe RB
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RB will be a need by the time they fill other positions.
It don't take 6 years if you have a great front office....Maybe 3 years like the 49ers in 2019,Seahawks in early 2010s and others team....
Terrible coaching and the number of needs they have combined with the years they’ve wasted and it will.
In the NFL, with the roster turnovers every year in the NFL, it can be very fast but the front office needs to make the right decisions....This is not baseball
To lin and front office are slow moving wooly mammoths in a world of high speed Internet
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This is true and I said in a another thread that they need a fire sale and have a true rebuilding
A fire sale and true rebuild will take maybe 5 years or more to rebuild. Its not like the Steelers have been accumulating draft picks the past few seasons, they have been trying to surround Ben with pieces and taking one more shot for the past 5 years it feels like.
This is normal progression of rebuilding. Its going to take a couple more years to get what they need on the offensive and defensive lines. The way to build an NFL team is from the inside out and by that I mean the Line first and then the skill players later. I think with the Bears pick and likely the Steelers having a top 10 draft position they can get an OT, DT and ILB in the first 2 rounds.
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This is just ridiculous. If it takes this team 6 years to “rebuild” then it will never happen. Maybe that is what you are saying? If we have a good draft (hit with our first 3-4 picks) and a above average free agency we will be right back into the AFCN. The FA piece needs to include a new OC or nothing will make a difference.
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Really? I hear about Tomlin never having a losing season regularly on the NFL Network and ESPN.
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The only thing needed for the Steelers to return to the playoffs next year is for Pickett to go franchise mode. That is TBD.
Chuck Noll took the Steelers from 1-13 to playoff team in 3 seasons. Should take us less in the age of free agency, and we have draft picks and cap space. And we also have the QB. If we have a good offseason we should be a wildcard team next year.
Who cares about non losing seasons, I hope Tomlin doesn’t - just apologist drivel
By the standards of the current Steelers fanbase, rebuilding to their level of acceptance will take 10-15 years.
Just look at the Steelers after their last franchise QB retired and how long it took to get back to challenging for Super Bowls?? The current Steelers dont have the foundations of solid line play and they havent done great with their draft picks the past few seasons. It will take a few years before they build teams that have the talent of Baltimore and Cincinnati in the AFC North.
If you cant handle being 3rd place in the AFC North for the next 2 or 3 seasons, you might as well find something else to do in the upcoming few years in Sept-Dec.
Again, it doesn't take 5 years in the NFL if you're competent
Like the bills with their new front office which arrived in 2017, it took 3 years despite their fire sale in the 2017 and 2018 offseason....same thing for a team like the 49ers under John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan when the 49ers were a very poor 2-14 team in 2016 and have been in the super bowl in 2019.....Bengals, it happened too after their 2-14 season in 2019, the seahawks in the early 2010s too it was fast, year 3 under Pete Carroll, they were a very good team
So to say, rebuilding takes 5 years, it's not true, it's not like baseball
This front office doesn’t have that mindset though. Philadelphia is an example of a front office that does have that mindset of go get the needs and fill them. This front office has always had the let players develop mindset which takes time and more chances of failure than the way the Eagles have done it. Maybe that changes with Khan…
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There’s still a chance to go 13-8! #keepthefaith
I agree but normally it doesn't take 5-6 years for a rebuild if you have a great front office...... A rebuild is 1 bad year in year 1, progress in year 2 even if your record is not very good yet and year 3, you have a young team who are in the playoffs and more to come after that
You guys are borrowing troubles.
FO has traditionally been patient, because they both had to be and could be.
Recently, not so much.
Green sucked and he’s nailed to the bench. Claypool kept doing Claypool things and they traded him. Witherspoon sucked and got benched. Maulet plays less and less snaps. They traded for Jack. Etc.
Every indication is that a post Ben R and the boys is going to be an aggressive approach.
Those teams had been stacking up talent and picking in the top 10 of the draft for a few seasons, but were just a franchise QB away from being a good team. The Steelers have been picking 20 for a while and not hitting with their draft picks and got what looks like the 2nd coming of Matt Hasselbeck at QB.
It will be at least 5 seasons before the Steelers win the AFC North again.
They had also a great front office(in the case of the 49ers and Bills).Look at how the draft did to go from 21 to 7 to take Josh Allen in 2018.It can change very quickly in the NFL if your front office is great.If this is bad, it can take forever!
Look at the Bills 2017 roster.
Dion Dawkins LT, Eric Wood C, Vlad Ducasse G, Cordy Glenn T, Shady McCoy RB, Charles Clay TE. Kyle Williams, Shaq Lawson, Jerry Hughes D line...Tre Davious White CB, Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer Safety. Matt Milano LB,
The Bills had a decent roster built with talented players and all they needed was a once in a generation talent at QB like Josh Allen to draft and build around. Kenny isnt Josh Allen and the Steelers dont have the surrounding talent on the roster like the Bills had.
3 of his players(White,Milano and Dawkins) were drafted by the Bills in 2017 by their current front office
The current talent of the steelers is not way worst that what the Bills had before the 2017 offseason.We can said the same about the 49ers and Jimmy G is not a elite QB....A great front office find a way to be good very quick
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