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    2023 Draft Thread for DL

    I'm going to start with Gervon Dexter of Florida. 6'6"-310ish lbs. Benches over 400, squats over 600. The Gators move him around a lot between 3T and 1T, as well as left side and right side. A very large, strong, and versatile DL. Here is some game film I found from just a quick search:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTa7Ruuh48c vs Kentucky 2022

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glUezEP26k0 vs LSU 2021

    Obviously not a 1st round pick this draft but I could see 2nd/3rd round grades.

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    Re: 2023 Draft Thread for DL

    Bryan Bresee of Clemson. 6'5"-300ish lbs. Benched 405 in highschool. Can bulk up to play more 1T or play 3T now. Missed 2021 with ACL injury.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dggoJzPUnMI vs Georgia CFP

    I think he goes 1st round. Some predict top10.

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    Re: 2023 Draft Thread for DL

    Myles Murphy of Clemson 6'5"- 275ish lbs. Bench over 400, deadlift over 500. Rumored he ran a 4.57/40. 3T squarely in the size/weight range the Steelers look.

    ...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM_rFO9o5pE vs Georgia CFP

    Another 1st round guy from Clemson, possible top10.

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    Re: 2023 Draft Thread for DL

    Siaki "Apu" Ika 6'4"-350ish lbs with suddenness and glide from Baylor. Plays as a 3T DT mostly, some at NT.

    ...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGZ5uQoBM74 a highlight reel was all I could find this morning.

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    Re: 2023 Draft Thread for DL

    Mazi Smith 6'3"-330ish lbs at Michigan. Uber athletic according to 'Feldman's Freaks'. Smith has a 33" Vert and a 9'5" broad. He also had a 6.95 3-cone. 22 reps at 325(not the standard 225).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bomNZWrg1M this video is maybe much more info than you want but I found it informative. Not a game film or highlight.

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    Re: 2023 Draft Thread for DL

    Nice

    R2: I’d take Gervon Dexter

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    Re: 2023 Draft Thread for DL

    I was letting somebody else do one for Jalen Carter.

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    Re: 2023 Draft Thread for DL

    My homer pick:
    Jonah Tavai, DT, SDSU

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    Re: 2023 Draft Thread for DL

    So, where do the Steelers go from here for DL's.

    Do they get the Heyward or Tuitt type of DT/DE?

    Are there any Hargrave "types"?''

    I am no draft expert nor do I watch enough college games to see but I'm just wondering what they are going to look for?



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    Re: 2023 Draft Thread for DL

    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post
    So, where do the Steelers go from here for DL's.

    Do they get the Heyward or Tuitt type of DT/DE?

    Are there any Hargrave "types"?''

    I am no draft expert nor do I watch enough college games to see but I'm just wondering what they are going to look for?
    That's a legit question. And is there even a market for a DL for the Steelers in this draft? Looking at the team's depth chart and roster all of the DL are around the 6'3"-6'5" approx 300-305LBs. So they have a type. Alualu, Wormley, and Ogunjobi are UFA at the end of this season. That still leaves us Cam, Adams, Loudermilk, and Leal. Bringing in another IDL FA, or re-signing one of those UFAs before they hit the open market, may be in play. I actually think that makes more sense than the draft right now. But I am seldom right when trying to guess the steelers offseason moves.

    I don't think they will bring in any $13M Hargrave types. As for in this draft, your guess is every bit as good as the next guy's. Most really covet Jalen Carter of Georgia so he's probably the way to go. I like this guy from Baylor, Siaki Ika.

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    Re: 2023 Draft Thread for DL

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    That's a legit question. And is there even a market for a DL for the Steelers in this draft? Looking at the team's depth chart and roster all of the DL are around the 6'3"-6'5" approx 300-305LBs. So they have a type. Alualu, Wormley, and Ogunjobi are UFA at the end of this season. That still leaves us Cam, Adams, Loudermilk, and Leal. Bringing in another IDL FA, or re-signing one of those UFAs before they hit the open market, may be in play. I actually think that makes more sense than the draft right now. But I am seldom right when trying to guess the steelers offseason moves.

    I don't think they will bring in any $13M Hargrave types. As for in this draft, your guess is every bit as good as the next guy's. Most really covet Jalen Carter of Georgia so he's probably the way to go. I like this guy from Baylor, Siaki Ika.

    I love the Siaki Ika train .... the dude is a mountain of a man with power to burn and he moves pretty well for a guy his size ...

    this is a Lane stuffer and immediately improves the run def and he will collapse the pocket and make everyone around him better ...

    most NT are 2 down players but I think this guy is a 3 down player because of his ability to collapse the pocket and open up opportunity for others to rush the passer more consistently
    I hate the Kenny Pickett Selection , but he is a Steeler now so hope he turns out great

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    Re: 2023 Draft Thread for DL

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    I love the Siaki Ika train .... the dude is a mountain of a man with power to burn and he moves pretty well for a guy his size ...

    this is a Lane stuffer and immediately improves the run def and he will collapse the pocket and make everyone around him better ...

    most NT are 2 down players but I think this guy is a 3 down player because of his ability to collapse the pocket and open up opportunity for others to rush the passer more consistently



    It remains to be seen if he could be a 3-down player, but I really like this kid too. He is not just a space eater. He pushes the pocket so he is a disruptive force at the college level. Can he do the same in the NFL? That is the question.

    With the run game becoming a more prominent role in the NFL, players like Siaki Ika are going to be more coveted than they were a year or two ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    That's a legit question. And is there even a market for a DL for the Steelers in this draft? Looking at the team's depth chart and roster all of the DL are around the 6'3"-6'5" approx 300-305LBs. So they have a type. Alualu, Wormley, and Ogunjobi are UFA at the end of this season. That still leaves us Cam, Adams, Loudermilk, and Leal. Bringing in another IDL FA, or re-signing one of those UFAs before they hit the open market, may be in play. I actually think that makes more sense than the draft right now. But I am seldom right when trying to guess the steelers offseason moves.

    I don't think they will bring in any $13M Hargrave types. As for in this draft, your guess is every bit as good as the next guy's. Most really covet Jalen Carter of Georgia so he's probably the way to go. I like this guy from Baylor, Siaki Ika.


    I like your list.

    As I just said to Dwinsgames, I really like the idea of Siaki Ika. He is the poor man's Jordan Davis from last year's draft.

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    Re: 2023 Draft Thread for DL

    I’m all about Ika with one of the 2nd rd picks. That dude will be our Nata to plug the middle for years to come. Love Bresee but worried about his durability. He’ll go within the top twenty regardless.

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    Re: 2023 Draft Thread for DL

    P.J. Mustipher 6'4"-329LBs PSU. More of a huge 3T than a true NT. He has logged 58 games over 5 seasons at PSU so experience is there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbwaZkNFzhk

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    Re: 2023 Draft Thread for DL

    Sounds like all y’all are locked in on Siaki Ika with the second R2 pick… which means he’ll be a Raven.

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    Re: 2023 Draft Thread for DL

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Sounds like all y’all are locked in on Siaki Ika with the second R2 pick… which means he’ll be a Raven.
    I do like what I have seen and read. Lots of testing yet to do. I am leaning more toward OT/ILB/CB/OG with our first 4 picks this draft. Apu is an interesting prospect, he does end up on the ground a lot though. A lot. I like him but the last guy I profiled, Mustipher, seems to be more of a Tomlin guy. Watch the videos.

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    I am curious to watch Mazi Smith in this playoff. I watched him a lot vs OSU. He was very slow off the snap. I don’t know if that was by design, or if that is an issue with him. Other than that he has the tools for the NFL.

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    Agreed: Mustipher makes sense.

    I’ll add Calijah Kancey from Pitt.

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    Maybe a lesser known prospect, I'll be excited to see the Senior Bowl practices, etc. Especially his weigh-in, I've seen varying ranges. Biggest issue I see is his arm extension, sometimes he doesn't get them out and "catches" the OL. Probably a combo of just getting stronger and better technique.

    https://thedraftnetwork.com/sr-prosp...-87e2439d1d1d/

    http://nfldraftblitz.com/2022/12/01/...-georgia-tech/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgkWazXjJwM

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    Re: 2023 Draft Thread for DL

    Quote Originally Posted by Crossdog View Post
    Maybe a lesser known prospect, I'll be excited to see the Senior Bowl practices, etc. Especially his weigh-in, I've seen varying ranges. Biggest issue I see is his arm extension, sometimes he doesn't get them out and "catches" the OL. Probably a combo of just getting stronger and better technique.

    https://thedraftnetwork.com/sr-prosp...-87e2439d1d1d/

    http://nfldraftblitz.com/2022/12/01/...-georgia-tech/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgkWazXjJwM

    Kinda funny you bring this guy up today. I saw his name in a recent mock draft yesterday and was looking at his specifics and games last night. I agree with you that his tests will mean a great deal to his draft value. From what I find today, he would need to be there in the 7th. He has good size and athleticism, he's just very raw as a DL, plays more on the edge than in the middle, and is very much a project/PS player at this point. But he is a name worth keeping an eye on through the testing season. Nice find.

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    Re: 2023 Draft Thread for DL

    Don’t be surprised is Keion White, DE, Georgia Tech is the pick at 17. Really.

    A similar guy (new to the position, raw, but impactful when on the field) is Lukas Van Ness, DE, Iowa.

    Give me one of them and Siaka Ika, NT, Baylor… and it won’t really matter who the ILBs are.


    Watt - White - Ika - Heyward - Highsmith

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    38 reps!, wow impressive and that with a 79" wingspan.

    I was concerned with the weight like I said in the earlier post. 6'4" 280. Definitely on the lighter side than what they usually look for. I guess we'll know if they're interested come pro day and visits to the burgh.

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    Re: 2023 Draft Thread for DL

    Don't count on the Senior Bowl GAME as a proving ground for any DL....hardly noticed anyone this game.. A little on Pickens, but no K. White or Benton or any other. Rather disappointing, but the OL was the star of this game imo. Some splashes from the edge but that is to be expected.

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