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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Ok. That is less of gap than I thought it would be.

    Harris is indeed a frustrating player at times. And it is clear that the fanbase is turning on him And so it goes with 1st round RBs that struggle to crack 50 yards a game.

    But, for me, Warren is having his stats inflated by running draws on potential passing situations, actually being used in flexible formations, and just better situations where Harris is being thrown to the wolves in bad situations, and obvious run calls where the defense tees off on totally overmatched offensive linemen, TEs, and WRs. I mean this is a running offense that calls multiple plays a game where someone like Gunner the Midget is responsible for setting the play-side edge of the blocking on a DE or LB. Really?

    Again...Harris may indeed stink. And it points out why the pick was never really a good idea. But...I think the system, the supporting cast, and then his own desire to make something out of nothing are all making it worse as well.
    Like I said, the only way to tell more is to give Warren more carries. Whether Warren is really good or not is to be determined, but one thing I know is that Najee sucks right now. And it's not all the o-line. One only needs to watch him objectively.

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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    His confidence may be shot. He looks like he’s lost his feel for where the holes are and he’s dancing around in backfield as a result. If I where him I would be pleading with MT and Management to get rid of Canada….and I’d be studying more film on how Warren is hitting the holes

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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    His confidence may be shot. He looks like he’s lost his feel for where the holes are and he’s dancing around in backfield as a result. If I where him I would be pleading with MT and Management to get rid of Canada….and I’d be studying more film on how Warren is hitting the holes

    by being decisive and running north and south taking what is there and trying to make it a lil more ... Najee instead waits around for a hole you can drive a truck through or he just stays in the backfield looking
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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    by being decisive and running north and south taking what is there and trying to make it a lil more ... Najee instead waits around for a hole you can drive a truck through or he just stays in the backfield looking
    He's looking for those Alabama size holes!

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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    He's looking for those Alabama size holes!
    we do not see many of those around here this isnt the SEC
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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...att-canada-nfl

    This is a specifically picked series of plays and was going after a specific point, but it is moving pictures of how any RB has zero chance in the current run calls.

    Again...I am not saying that Harris is great. I am not saying that Warren can not or should not get more early down work. I am just saying that this offense sucks and it is now obscuring the ability to determine the ceiling of key young pieces on offense. Which, in another thread, DWins has made good points about regarding Pickett. I think we are past that point with Harris. I have no idea how good of an NFL RB he is because he is in a high school offense against NFL defenses.

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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...att-canada-nfl

    This is a specifically picked series of plays and was going after a specific point, but it is moving pictures of how any RB has zero chance in the current run calls.

    Again...I am not saying that Harris is great. I am not saying that Warren can not or should not get more early down work. I am just saying that this offense sucks and it is now obscuring the ability to determine the ceiling of key young pieces on offense. Which, in another thread, DWins has made good points about regarding Pickett. I think we are past that point with Harris. I have no idea how good of an NFL RB he is because he is in a high school offense against NFL defenses.
    you have entered a really dark and low place when you system is so bad that you can not truly identify talent or lack there of because of the system in which they are forced to work in ...

    its liken to being a coal miner with no lantern or headlamp you can't see what you are doing so you just stand there waiting for light
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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...att-canada-nfl

    This is a specifically picked series of plays and was going after a specific point, but it is moving pictures of how any RB has zero chance in the current run calls.

    Again...I am not saying that Harris is great. I am not saying that Warren can not or should not get more early down work. I am just saying that this offense sucks and it is now obscuring the ability to determine the ceiling of key young pieces on offense. Which, in another thread, DWins has made good points about regarding Pickett. I think we are past that point with Harris. I have no idea how good of an NFL RB he is because he is in a high school offense against NFL defenses.
    Its a combination of a poorly designed play and probably no audible to the play, as we've heard reports of that being the case before...or Pickett is just clueless...which the way Tomlin is supporting Canada, seems to be that Pickett is an idiot...

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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    I said it early… damage goods.

    also is vision is suspect .

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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    Warren is better
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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    So, only a small scratch off win, but 99 yards on 20 carries vs the Saints.

    He did look like he came with a different attitude... coaches massage received?
    It did appear Warren got the bulk of pass targets out of the two.

    Maybe they just concentrated him on running the ball.

    All-in-all, a better approach and obviously better day for him.
    We'll forgo the fumble since it was recovered. Thanks Okorafor!

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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    He was capped at 99 so as to not ruin dwins' thread...

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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    He came sooo close to making that catch in the end zone. Great play…..really well defended.

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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkman View Post
    He came sooo close to making that catch in the end zone. Great play…..really well defended.
    An amaaazing throw.

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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelMember View Post
    So, only a small scratch off win, but 99 yards on 20 carries vs the Saints.

    He did look like he came with a different attitude... coaches massage received?
    It did appear Warren got the bulk of pass targets out of the two.

    Maybe they just concentrated him on running the ball.

    All-in-all, a better approach and obviously better day for him.
    We'll forgo the fumble since it was recovered. Thanks Okorafor!
    The coaches should be careful. It was massages that got Deshaun Watson in trouble!

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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    Tony Pollard is an UFA after this season. Najee, Warren, and Pollard would be a very good RB room.

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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Tony Pollard is an UFA after this season. Najee, Warren, and Pollard would be a very good RB room.

    someone will pay him nicely to be their feature back
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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    Teams that give RBs big second contracts in free agency are fools.

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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Tony Pollard is an UFA after this season. Najee, Warren, and Pollard would be a very good RB room.
    Pollard wouldn’t want to sign into that room. He wants (and has earned) a starting role somewhere…maybe Dallas.

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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    You only need two backs that can tote the rock. We have so many other holes to fill.

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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

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    Pollard wouldn’t want to sign into that room. He wants (and has earned) a starting role somewhere…maybe Dallas.
    A "smart" team would already have Pollard as the uncredited lead back and be finding ways to scale back Elliot's touches despite the contract. Instead, Jerrah is telling everyone how smart he was to throw $$$ at Elliot.

    There are so many teams in the NFL that just can't get out of their own way...

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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Pollard wouldn’t want to sign into that room. He wants (and has earned) a starting role somewhere…maybe Dallas.
    We need a Mewelde Moore type of #3 back that is a swiss army knife. Haley tried and missed like 3 or 4 times finding one of those lol.



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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    He is much better since week 10


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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    still just three 100 yard games in 30 weeks to date , no what you are looking for with a 1st round pick
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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    still just three 100 yard games in 30 weeks to date , no what you are looking for with a 1st round pick
    He had one game of 99 yards on 20 runs and another of 90 yards,so this is not a huge difference between 90 and 100 yards...My point is he play much better since week 10

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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    He's not hitting 100 yards partially to other RBs getting their rotations in. I like this since we're not totally relying on one workhorse back (and eventually getting him hurt in the process).

    I will agree though that this year he hasn't been playing up to his first round billing. But credit where it's due, he's played much better since the bye. Could partially be due to a softer schedule, but improvement is improvement.
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    Re: Better chance at hitting the lottery than Najee breaking 100 yards

    Quote Originally Posted by DuckHodges View Post
    He's not hitting 100 yards partially to other RBs getting their rotations in. I like this since we're not totally relying on one workhorse back (and eventually getting him hurt in the process).

    I will agree though that this year he hasn't been playing up to his first round billing. But credit where it's due, he's played much better since the bye. Could partially be due to a softer schedule, but improvement is improvement.
    You think he played like R1 talent last year? 3.9 YPC. He's serviceable and a good rotation back. That's not what you pay for in the first round. I'm just glad he's improved to serviceable so that he's not a total bust.

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