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    Re: Bill Cowher on Pittsburgh and their struggles(and on the Steelers handling of Kenny Pickett)

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    ^^^THIS^^^

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    BILLS: Thisxshiwed the value of Edmunds. That 98 yarder is a prime example.

    EAGLES: AJ Brown came down with spectacular TD catches. Our DBs were in position, but he was in a zone.

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    JAGS & BROWNS: The offense gave the opposition points and/or turned the ball over in the red-zone. Not all of those points are a from the defense.

    CHIEFS: As Dwins said, the defense held its own… with ZERO support from the offense. Then, the defense was simply too worn out to compete.
    There’s always excuses…the result however is the same. The defense is super dated in the pass happy NFL. You can’t have guys running wide open in zones and you can’t have Robert Spillane trying to cover Stefan Diggs. Doesn’t work.

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    Re: Bill Cowher on Pittsburgh and their struggles(and on the Steelers handling of Kenny Pickett)

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    By the evaluation criteria being used, every defensive scheme is failed and outdated. The Eagles and Bills have basically thrashed them all.
    Exactly

    The Bills are first in points scored and also in point differential. They trash everyone.

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    There’s always excuses…the result however is the same. The defense is super dated in the pass happy NFL. You can’t have guys running wide open in zones and you can’t have Robert Spillane trying to cover Stefan Diggs. Doesn’t work.
    Okay. Yes. Linebackers in coverage aside… has the defense “really” been awful for a decade?

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    Re: Bill Cowher on Pittsburgh and their struggles(and on the Steelers handling of Kenny Pickett)

    Todd Bowles has a rep as a really good defensive coach. Tampa has a rep as a really sound defensive team.

    In coverage on several of those crucial third down conversions? Linebackers. Linebackers on WRs. Arguably despite the track record and rookie status, the Steelers best WR.

    I am so tired of hearing about LBers in coverage as if it is some special problem the Steelers have. All teams have to face the issue. And all teams get caught trying to get away with it.

    Now the Steelers particular allegiance to the tire fire that is Spillane in coverage -- that is an issue that can and should be discussed.
    The issue of it taking the injury of every other DB to give Pierre and some others some playing time and then seeing that they can play...that is an issue that can and should be discussed.

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    Linebackers will always be in coverage. Always have been. If our OC would use that to his advantage our offense would be putting up close to 30 points a game too. Are you kidding me with the talent we have in the WR room? Then there's PF and Najee in the passing game. How do other defenses have that many CBs?

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    The steelers are 31st against the pass and 30th in yards per pass play

    The offense deserve to be the story for the 2-6 record but the defense is a huge issues too.Last year it was against the run,this year this is against the pass...Our pass defense was better in 2015 with Blake as one of our corner and Jarvis Jones as one of our pass rusher.

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    Re: Bill Cowher on Pittsburgh and their struggles(and on the Steelers handling of Kenny Pickett)

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    The steelers are 31st against the pass and 30th in yards per pass play

    The offense deserve to be the story for the 2-6 record but the defense is a huge issues too.Last year it was against the run,this year this is against the pass...Our pass defense was better in 2015 with Blake as one of our corner and Jarvis Jones as one of our pass rusher.
    Do you think the injury to pass rusher Watt and/or to starting CBs Wallace and Witherspoon and/or to starting safeties Minkah and Edmunds has had any effect on those stats?

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    Re: Bill Cowher on Pittsburgh and their struggles(and on the Steelers handling of Kenny Pickett)

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Do you think the injury to pass rusher Watt and/or to starting CBs Wallace and Witherspoon and/or to starting safeties Minkah and Edmunds has had any effect on those stats?
    Of course but injuries are part of the game.But even right now this defense is better on paper that the 2015 steelers since they had players like Jarvis Jones as pass rusher and Blake as corner and Mitchell and Will Allen as safety but the 2015 defense had still better results that now....

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    Re: Bill Cowher on Pittsburgh and their struggles(and on the Steelers handling of Kenny Pickett)

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Exactly

    The Bills are first in points scored and also in point differential. They trash everyone.

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    Okay. Yes. Linebackers in coverage aside… has the defense “really” been awful for a decade?
    If you don’t have an elite pass rusher, the defense gets torched. The defense clearly hasn’t been awful but there’s glaring ways to beat this defense…and they don’t make changes to improve it.

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    Re: Bill Cowher on Pittsburgh and their struggles(and on the Steelers handling of Kenny Pickett)

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Exactly

    The Bills are first in points scored and also in point differential. They trash everyone.

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    Okay. Yes. Linebackers in coverage aside… has the defense “really” been awful for a decade?
    Yes. Since Lebeau was forced out the defense has been awful. It is one of the worst playoff defenses since 2015 allowing 29.8 ppg. Since 2017 the defense in three games is allowing 45 ppg which is the worst in the NFL by 11 ppg.

    That's awful right? The only rebuttal I see is the usual: What about the regular season stats?

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    Re: Bill Cowher on Pittsburgh and their struggles(and on the Steelers handling of Kenny Pickett)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloydwoodsonjr View Post
    Yes. Since Lebeau was forced out the defense has been awful. It is one of the worst playoff defenses since 2015 allowing 29.8 ppg. Since 2017 the defense in three games is allowing 45 ppg which is the worst in the NFL by 11 ppg.

    That's awful right? The only rebuttal I see is the usual: What about the regular season stats?
    Defense was awful when LeBeau was there. Lol. Are you fact checking?

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    Over 40 running play,37 minutes and 200 rushing yards for the steelers....Cowher must be very proud!

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    Re: Bill Cowher on Pittsburgh and their struggles(and on the Steelers handling of Kenny Pickett)

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Over 40 running play,37 minutes and 200 rushing yards for the steelers....Cowher must be very proud!


    That was a very good showing today against a depleted Saints team. It's something for them to build off of.

    Let's see where they go from here.

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    Re: Bill Cowher on Pittsburgh and their struggles(and on the Steelers handling of Kenny Pickett)

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    That was a very good showing today against a depleted Saints team. It's something for them to build off of.

    Let's see where they go from here.
    Yeah,they need to proves that it was not a fluke....

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    Re: Bill Cowher on Pittsburgh and their struggles(and on the Steelers handling of Kenny Pickett)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Todd Bowles has a rep as a really good defensive coach. Tampa has a rep as a really sound defensive team.

    In coverage on several of those crucial third down conversions? Linebackers. Linebackers on WRs. Arguably despite the track record and rookie status, the Steelers best WR.

    I am so tired of hearing about LBers in coverage as if it is some special problem the Steelers have. All teams have to face the issue. And all teams get caught trying to get away with it.

    Now the Steelers particular allegiance to the tire fire that is Spillane in coverage -- that is an issue that can and should be discussed.
    The issue of it taking the injury of every other DB to give Pierre and some others some playing time and then seeing that they can play...that is an issue that can and should be discussed.
    The Bucs ILB are excellent in coverage. You're saying Devin White can't cover any WR? He ran a 4.4 40.

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    Re: Bill Cowher on Pittsburgh and their struggles(and on the Steelers handling of Kenny Pickett)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloydwoodsonjr View Post
    The Bucs ILB are excellent in coverage. You're saying Devin White can't cover any WR? He ran a 4.4 40.
    Why to sift back through a thread, find a post from 2 weeks ago, and try and start a troll argument with it.

    And since you claim to be able to read and seem to enjoy reading through old posts - take a look at the lengthy and endless debates about how the Steelers defense is done in by the dreaded LB on WR coverage scheme. Then read the post you pulled out again, with context, and it should all make sense. It did to almost everyone else.

    Let us see if you can put your critical thinking skills to good use.

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    Re: Bill Cowher on Pittsburgh and their struggles(and on the Steelers handling of Kenny Pickett)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloydwoodsonjr View Post
    The Bucs ILB are excellent in coverage. You're saying Devin White can't cover any WR? He ran a 4.4 40.
    He can’t.

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    you are a Kenny Pickett enabler

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    Re: Bill Cowher on Pittsburgh and their struggles(and on the Steelers handling of Kenny Pickett)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Why to sift back through a thread, find a post from 2 weeks ago, and try and start a troll argument with it.

    And since you claim to be able to read and seem to enjoy reading through old posts - take a look at the lengthy and endless debates about how the Steelers defense is done in by the dreaded LB on WR coverage scheme. Then read the post you pulled out again, with context, and it should all make sense. It did to almost everyone else.

    Let us see if you can put your critical thinking skills to good use.
    WOW! I had to go back just to find your original post. That’s some serious trolling. Not really sure if I understand the point.

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    Re: Bill Cowher on Pittsburgh and their struggles(and on the Steelers handling of Kenny Pickett)

    This is why Canada will be back in 2023…

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    you are a Kenny Pickett enabler

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    Re: Bill Cowher on Pittsburgh and their struggles(and on the Steelers handling of Kenny Pickett)

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    I was thinking while watching the game yesterday that this looks like a classic Steeler offense. Strong run game, more runs than passes, QB passes for under 200 yards with a TD and no picks. Defense closes out the game with an INT. Sounds like a typical Neil O'Donnell / Cowher game
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