Kenny will probably never get his due because he's isn't an athletic freak of nature like Lamar Jackson, can't fire the ball 50 yards effortlessly like Mahomes or Allen, and has no National Title pedigree like Burrow.Originally Posted by teegre
Kenny is doing things old-school. He's a guy who can play Quarterback, and he's just good at it. Even when he came in, you could see he had what it took. Now its just a matter of putting it all together.
IMO, he has the biggest asset: moxie.
Can’t measure it.
Can’t teach it.
Thankfully, Kenny’s got it.
I think Kenny is way more athletic and faster than most people think he is. Sure, he is not Lamar Jackson or Kyler Murray, but he seems to take off and run at the right times and he is not easily caught either. As Teegre and you pointed out, Kenny plays quarterback and does those things a quarterback should.
I'm excited to see how he continues to develop. I see no reason at this point for the Steelers to draft a QB early next draft. Spend that draft capital elsewhere to improve the team.
about a 65yrd pass here on hail mary
https://youtu.be/8M6FH7GMJzU
KNOCKIN ON 7'S DOOR!
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Kenny has everything but a rocket for an arm. Fortunately, he's smart enough to play to his strengths. That will become more evident after he learns the NFL game and how to read defenses. Things that he does well in isolation, he will start to do for the entire game. I can see him going 26/6/70% for 3900 next season.
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There were constantly questions about Ben's attributes throughout his entire career...he was just a game manager, one week he was in the MVP conversation, the next week he wasn't even considered a top 10 QB.
I don't expect Kenny to ever be considered a Peyton Manning, a Tom Brady, or a Pat Mahomes. But I do think that once he gets seasoned, he will get the job done. He is already showing he can learn and improve his game. This team just needs to become a whole team. Hopefully, next year's draft will put a few more pieces into place.
If our receivers would have more YAC, much like the 49ers, that would help a lot since I'm convinced the steelers are one of the worst teams in YAC....He also needs a much better OC obviously
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I am glad he is not more like Lamar lol, I have LJ as my fantasy QB solely because he runs a lot, his accuracy is garbage and he will be what holds the Ravens back every year. KP will probably never be top 5, but he will be just outside that and with a solid OL and a good OC we should be back in the playoffs sooner rather than later. An off season with his WRs and he should be on the same page as them.
We really just need to correct the OC issue we have. The Rooneys need to get out there and hire the best OC available with a track record, the best QB coach, the best WR coach and the best OL coach we can get. Dangle the future HC position is yours to have after MT retires for the OC.
Pickett looked sharp. Completed 70% of his passes despite a few drops and connected on a couple long passes. He seems to be progressing with every game. He's also pretty damn fast when he needs to run.
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I just checked and the steelers are last in yards after the catch at 3.8 and this is not close
The saints are 31st at 4.4
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...2/advanced.htm
The Steelers WIN when Kenny calls his own plays.
Ben would agree... Canada stinks!
Stuff you can't coach. When you have "it", you have it.
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Canada's plays are only designed to go for 2 yards and no YAC! Just catch the ball and get tackled by 4 guys since the play is already known.
he throws screens to our slowest players all the time (who should be used for blocking on those same plays), that'll fool em!Canada's plays are only designed to go for 2 yards and no YAC! Just catch the ball and get tackled by 4 guys since the play is already known.
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Dude, you just gave away the team's entire playbook....Canada's plays are only designed to go for 2 yards and no YAC! Just catch the ball and get tackled by 4 guys since the play is already known.
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Kind of hard to get YAC when we have zero plays designed to hit the WR in stride, they are all stop routes, comeback routes or fades to the SL where Pickens has to toe drag every catch just to get the completion.
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It's even harder when you run backward constantly.
Dan Orlavsky breaks this play down second by second… and in a nutshell, said it was a big time NFL throw.
Joe Thomas thinks Kenny is the “real deal”. He says that he will be rooting against Kenny (obviously), but thinks Steelers fans should be smiling “ear-to-ear”, because Kenny has all of the attributes of a franchise QB.
WOW!!! That is really something, because Joe Thomas rarely (if ever) says anything nice about the Steelers.
Unfortunately, I don't trust PFF especially when this is for the grade....I can trust for the stats like QB rating for a CB but not their grade
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I let my eyes tell me how a guy performs. I understand analytics and stat equations certainly have merit, but for me it's when your eyes are telling you a guy is playing really well.
It's not about pure numbers.
The pass was complete that is all that ultimately matters. But the posted 3rd down pass to Pickens is a good example of one thing that I hope KP can get cleaned up. He throws a lot of passes at dude's knees.
I know the YAC issue is like 99.9% on Canada's offense. But you can't keep running when your QB makes you pick a pass off the grass.
This is not meant to indicate that KP is terrible or even less than awesome. But anyone know what might cause a guy to throw low a high % of the time? Is it mechanical or timing or something?
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There are all kinds of things that can make a quarterback inaccurate, but when a QB throws low that doesn't necessarily mean that it was a bad throw. There are times when the perfect throw is low, particularly when throwing the ball in the middle of the field. Tipped passes in the middle of the field turn into interceptions, and QB's are coached to throw the ball low in certain situations to limit turnovers. It's how the position is coached. Try to pay attention to how many times near the goal line that passes are thrown low to receivers near the endzone where the field is compressed. It happens a lot and it is intentional.
I can't say with certainty that it was intentional on that particular play. It's much more difficult to throw accurately when you are moving or get moved off your spot in the pocket.
One of the specific things that influence throwing balls high or low unintentionally is footwork. The stride of the quarterback leading into the throw affects the possible trajectory of the pass. When a quarterback takes too big of a stride, it tends to make the ball sail high. When the stride is a little short, it tends to make the ball go lower than the intended trajectory. Any inconsistent footwork needs to be compensated with timing. That's why mechanics are so important and are worked on because it breeds consistency.
Sometimes the timing of your arm and release is off, and that can make you throw high or low.
There are a lot of variables that can contribute to an errant pass. There are also a lot of requirements with ball placement that people don't know about unless you've played the position or played football. Many throws may look off to someone watching, but the placement of the throw was intentional.
All of that makes sense.
I do believe that KP throws high when he over-strides. There are a few throws a game where it looks like he tries to really lay into a throw and then he just kinda guns it 4 feet over everyone's head.
I haven't paid as much attention to the low throws. I freely acknowledge that in multiple scenarios, as you have correctly pointed out, low ball placement is the preferred option.
But my line of thinking is that I am sure KP throws high at times he does not want to. Therefore, it is possible that he also throws low at times he does not mean to as well.
Then my pudding brain thought maybe there were underlying footwork or mechanical issues that linked the to. Makes me wonder if there are some footwork things that KP can work on this off-season that could make his accuracy and placement even more precise and help him weaponize that skillset even more.
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My biggest concern stat wise is the 1.1% pass to TD ratio. It's the worst in the league. It seems to have been a problem at Pitt also, except for his senior year. Any explanation? I know DJ dropped one, but every QB has drops.
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3-5 yard passes.
Limited YAC.
Some is by play design to protect the ball. Some is being a rookie and not fully understanding where to place the ball so to pick up YAC.
I would expect his stats to improve.
Just shows how much of Pickett's rookie statistics lie. The way he has been playing doesn't reflect that.
Same thing with his 9 "interceptions". Pickett has maybe 3-4 of them that were truly sucky. Most of Pickett's interceptions were tipped balls, and he's had several more touchdowns that were dropped.
I guess that Pickett just strikes me as a guy who is not overly concerned with winning fantasy points or wanting to "prove" how good of a quarterback he is, he called the play to Benny Snell that scored the winning touchdown when he could've done it himself.
every qb has drops, but WR's making 12 mil+ a year need to catch that
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