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    I’m sure they will…they’ll wind up winning 7-8 games now…

    Then they’ll be able to blame the offensive woes on Claypool, keep Canada and move onto 2023 with some false aspirations of magical free agents, magical draft picks and false hope…
    I hate the false hope!

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    Re: The challenges of Omar Khan for the next offseason

    Sports is sports. No matter the situation it is never hopeless. No matter the level of success, it’s never automatic. Keep the lows to moderate lows and the highs to moderate highs.

    Now…the focus and prep for this ‘team’ seems off. Even with the on-field struggles, the off-field complaining is worrisome. I’m hoping it is due to the youth of the players. Airing dirty laundry publicly is a sign of immaturity. Maybe just my opinion, but if they really want a coaching change then just do what you’re told to do. Let everything be on the calls, the plan, the scheme. When players distract from that it allows the blame to get shifted.

    Does the GM have a clear picture of what’s holding this offense back? Talented weapons, rookie QB, OL has been better than preseason expectations.

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    Re: The challenges of Omar Khan for the next offseason

    Time for a fire sale and a true rebuilding by accumulating draft picks...I just hope the Claypool trade is a start but I have my doubts

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    Re: The challenges of Omar Khan for the next offseason

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    Time for a fire sale and a true rebuilding by accumulating draft picks...I just hope the Claypool trade is a start but I have my doubts
    There aren't many players currently on the Steelers that are worth keeping and that's a result of how poor the Steelers have been at drafting and development. On offense Pickett,Muth,Pickens and Harris. Defensively Heyward, Watt and Fitzpatrick. They have some guys who contribute week to week but overall not a solid group. Awful in the red zone, haven't scored 30+ this season, can't stop the run, horrid in pass coverage.

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    There aren't many players currently on the Steelers that are worth keeping and that's a result of how poor the Steelers have been at drafting and development. On offense Pickett,Muth,Pickens and Harris. Defensively Heyward, Watt and Fitzpatrick. They have some guys who contribute week to week but overall not a solid group. Awful in the red zone, haven't scored 30+ this season, can't stop the run, horrid in pass coverage.
    You could argue that Heyward isnt worth keeping because of age. I would never get rid of him but if you are doing a true breakdown and build up fire sale, Heyward would be one of the first to go because of age.

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    In 1998 and 1999, it was 2 very tough years for the steelers, 2000, they were much better after their 0-3 start and then they were 13-3 in 2001 and in the AFC title game but the difference is that in 1998, the steelers had a great draft with Faneca, Ward and Porter, 3 big pieces .... So this steelers team are a true rebuilding and 2 great draft away to become a very good team

    Hard to do but a great front office find a way to do it.....

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    Re: The challenges of Omar Khan for the next offseason

    And I think it is in this thread and another...before we all freak out about how wonderous the Eagles front office is....let's see what rabbit they pull out of the hat this off-season.

    Projected to have a low amount of cap space and they have a wide array of starters to re-sign or replace.

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    Re: The challenges of Omar Khan for the next offseason

    https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../pit/draft.htm

    In the past two drafts, the Steelers have gotten major contributors at QB, WR, TE, and RB. The kind of players that just take up a spot on the starting roster for entire careers. They have gotten minor contributors who may become more at Dl x 2, OL, and MAYBE at LB.

    Why all the doom and gloom about their ability to add talent?

    The Steelers are currently projected to pick somewhere in the top 12 or so. That is usually about where you can snag the second rated CB in the class. In the past two years, that has been Stingley and Horn. Both are pretty good and impactful players for their teams. Or maybe OT is more your speed...that area was the second OT off the board in 2021 and would be the third off the board in 2022. So that means that using some rough rankings now, the Steelers first round pick could be the Maryland OT Duncan or PSU's Porter.

    Of course, it could also be some horrible player. Or those guys could stink.

    But with 3 picks in the top 50 or so....that is a potential one draft class infusion of talent that we, as Steelers fans, just have not seen in a long time. Maybe ever - at least post 1970's. And we can look to other franchises that have brought in multiple top 50 picks that got it "right" and it dramatically turns a team around.

    Look at Seattle. major contributors from several draft picks in similar overall slots. It can and has been done. No reason to suspect the Steelers can't either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../pit/draft.htm

    In the past two drafts, the Steelers have gotten major contributors at QB, WR, TE, and RB. The kind of players that just take up a spot on the starting roster for entire careers. They have gotten minor contributors who may become more at Dl x 2, OL, and MAYBE at LB.

    Why all the doom and gloom about their ability to add talent?

    The Steelers are currently projected to pick somewhere in the top 12 or so. That is usually about where you can snag the second rated CB in the class. In the past two years, that has been Stingley and Horn. Both are pretty good and impactful players for their teams. Or maybe OT is more your speed...that area was the second OT off the board in 2021 and would be the third off the board in 2022. So that means that using some rough rankings now, the Steelers first round pick could be the Maryland OT Duncan or PSU's Porter.

    Of course, it could also be some horrible player. Or those guys could stink.

    But with 3 picks in the top 50 or so....that is a potential one draft class infusion of talent that we, as Steelers fans, just have not seen in a long time. Maybe ever - at least post 1970's. And we can look to other franchises that have brought in multiple top 50 picks that got it "right" and it dramatically turns a team around.

    Look at Seattle. major contributors from several draft picks in similar overall slots. It can and has been done. No reason to suspect the Steelers can't either.
    True and the hope is there and the next draft is going to be very exciting and important too!

    The rebuilding won't last 5 years if they are right with their 3 draft pick in the top 40-45!

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    Also,look at the impact that Sauce Gardner have in New York(Jets) this year,so if you hit a top 10 pick,it have a huge impact for a team.He is not alone but he is a big reason for the turnaround of the Jets defense this year.Unfortunately for them, they didn't choose the right QB in 2021 but this is another story!

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    Re: The challenges of Omar Khan for the next offseason

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Also,look at the impact that Sauce Gardner have in New York(Jets) this year,so if you hit a top 10 pick,it have a huge impact for a team.He is not alone but he is a big reason for the turnaround of the Jets defense this year.Unfortunately for them, they didn't choose the right QB in 2021 but this is another story!
    Shutdown corners are necessary in today's NFL imo. I wouldn't be mad if we went Ringo in rd. 1
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    Re: The challenges of Omar Khan for the next offseason

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    Shutdown corners are necessary in today's NFL imo. I wouldn't be mad if we went Ringo in rd. 1
    You pretty much need three number 1-2 CBs in the nfl. If you don’t, you’re not going to have a good pass defense. Gone are the days of a shut down corner and a number two. You need ,ore than that to survive.

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    Re: The challenges of Omar Khan for the next offseason

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Also,look at the impact that Sauce Gardner have in New York(Jets) this year,so if you hit a top 10 pick,it have a huge impact for a team.He is not alone but he is a big reason for the turnaround of the Jets defense this year.Unfortunately for them, they didn't choose the right QB in 2021 but this is another story!
    Quote Originally Posted by DuckHodges View Post
    Shutdown corners are necessary in today's NFL imo. I wouldn't be mad if we went Ringo in rd. 1
    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    You pretty much need three number 1-2 CBs in the nfl. If you don’t, you’re not going to have a good pass defense. Gone are the days of a shut down corner and a number two. You need ,ore than that to survive.
    Goodness....the Steelers (when healthy) pass rush with Gardner or someone of that caliber behind them? C'mon. Give that guy some single cover responsibility. That means you can do more of that "robber/lurker" stuff with MFF because he can just ignore help on one side. It also helps your other CBs because it keeps them in roles they can excel at.

    Or....improving multiple CB spots? The things this defense could do....

    ....remember what Ike Taylor did for the 2000's defense?

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    Re: The challenges of Omar Khan for the next offseason

    This is a good time to talk about that now

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    Re: The challenges of Omar Khan for the next offseason

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    Maulet has another year.

    I think they try to bring back everyone on that list. Bush likely walks as Spillane is retained long term, and Alualu retires.

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    Re: The challenges of Omar Khan for the next offseason

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    Bingo! Those are the 4 that I believe they should make sure they keep.

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    Re: The challenges of Omar Khan for the next offseason

    Sutton
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    In that order

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    Re: The challenges of Omar Khan for the next offseason

    Highsmith will be a UFA in 2024. Will the Steelers (omar) get an extension done this offseason? They usually try and extend a year before the contract is up.



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    Re: The challenges of Omar Khan for the next offseason

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    Highsmith will be a UFA in 2024. Will the Steelers (omar) get an extension done this offseason? They usually try and extend a year before the contract is up.
    I think it will be the case

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