Maybe not. I remember he Boldin one but I thought I remembered a Fitzgerald one as well…but I’m old and forget…lolOriginally Posted by tube517
Maybe not. I remember he Boldin one but I thought I remembered a Fitzgerald one as well…but I’m old and forget…lol
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I'm officially on the Fire Canada bandwagon today. Why we consistently line up with a single back rather than the I-formation when we can't run, I have no idea. At the very least, provide a second blocker out of the backfield. And, what's more, stop being so predictable.
And, that leads me to another issue. Two OCs ago, I could predict Steeler plays based on formation. If I can do it, you know the opposing defenses are doing it. That's three OCs now that have the same problem. And, that leads to it being an issue higher up.
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https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news...eelers-offenseMatt Canada Makes Shocking Statement About Steelers Offense
The Pittsburgh Steelers offensive coordinator spoke with the broadcast team and opened up about a significant part of his team.
PITTSBURGH -- The Pittsburgh Steelers offense started to find life during their Week 3 win over the Las Vegas Raiders, but during the opening half of the team's Week 4 matchup versus the Houston Texans, it was much of the same as the last two seasons held.
The Steelers didn't cross the 50-yard line in the first half of their game against Houston, and as the struggles continued, the broadcast team began talking about offensive coordinator Matt Canada, who spoke with them the night before.
The broadcast team, Spero Dedes and Adam Archuleta, discusses their conversation with Canada and how he told them his team struggles against larger deficits.
"They're not quite built to come back from big leads - the way they start games is critical," the broadcast team claimed Canada said.
The statement was a bit shocking for those watching the game.
The Steelers offense has only scored 20-plus points under Canada ten times and has yet to produce more than 400 yards as a unit. Meanwhile, quarterback Kenny Pickett has thrown 12 interceptions and just 11 touchdowns in 16 games in the NFL.
Pittsburgh has continued to support Canada during his time in Pittsburgh, and there are no signs the team would move on from the offensive coordinator prior to the end of the season.
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So, this morning, I was reading sports stuff, finalizing my fantasy line-up and read that Crapnada “had a plan” for the offense after last week. I looked directly at my wife and told her, then said that means we were going to lose. Crapnada had a plan, and that meant bad play calls. I didn’t get to see the game, but from what I have read already, it seems his “plan” didn’t work out.
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It seriously took you this long to get on board?
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OK, Fire Canada. I'm for that. I was for that at the end of last season.
Right now, I don't know what that will change, other than it's change. If Canada really said his offense isn't built to come back from being down big, he absolutely needs to be stripped of calling plays. He's basically admitting he has a script and if things go off that script he's worthless. The fact that the script itself is mostly worthless is just icing on the cake.
Somebody within this organization is worthy of a promotion to offensive play caller.
I've heard this said of offenses in the past. It's usually said of offenses that are built to be power-running ball control offenses that don't have great QBs or WRs to engage in shootouts with anyone. This seems to be an indication that with the talent on O the Steelers have now, they don't think they have the firepower to engage in shootouts or score quickly and so have to play ball control.
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On the plus side, today Belichick suffered the worst loss of his career.
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We have one of the fastest guys in the league, an absolute monster with Pickens and a top level TE and solid 2nd wr. We have 2 RBs that are fine catching passes out of the backfield. Some of you dislike the QB, but the fact that we can’t seem to get ANY of them open ever tells me we could have Brady in his prime under center and we would still have this crappy offense.
When Tomlin said we need to make changes, I am hoping he is finally tired of the crap being rolled out and let’s Crapnada go. At this point anyone could call better plays.
We do not have a top level TE. PF is a major liability in the run game and nowhere near enough of a top end threat as a receiver to make up for it. He’s regressed big time.
Washington is raw and runs into his own guys twice a game. He did it again today.
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But has he? The entire offense has regressed. I feel it is Crapnada that is causing this. Nobody is playing better this season and I can’t say that I have ever seen that happen before.
There were two plays today where PF's "block" was to get pushed all the way across the field. He can't hold the point of attack, let alone move anyone in the run game.
I do not see how that is on coaching to just get out-leveraged and get your ass kicked every play. But, to be fair, PF is not alone in that right now.
I just think he's a below average blocker at TE and he isn't a terrifying receiving threat in a way that balances those scales. Like Kelce doesn't really block, but who the heck cares? He's just unstoppable in the passing game. IF you think that Kelce is too extreme of a comparison...no problem. How about Dallas Goedert?
Those guys are top level TE...PF is so much less than that right now. Maybe it is canada strangling the potential of players. Or maybe it is just that PF is over-rated?
Fire Can'tnada and if Tomlin won't do it, then he needs to go too. One of the responsibilities of the head coach is to put together a competent staff. If he won't get rid of this guy, then he's part of the problem.
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Stop with the liability in the run game nonsense. There’s one, maybe two tight ends on rosters that have the ability you are looking for. It’s no longer part of the position like you want it to be. They have multiple guys to do this now.
Again…evaluating players based on an offense that wouldn’t survive a Class AAAA high school game.
Canada couldn't call the police if you spotted him the 9 and a 1
What does everyone see when you watch Canadas plays being run? OR when you hear him or someone talk about his scheme and what it entails? Ill tell you what i hear and see. College offensive scheme. Lots of movement to catch a defense off guard or to trick them and very simple routes and concepts. The NFL has seen this for how long now (not just Canada) but coaches that come from College and try to implement schemes and ideas that work in college but pretty much always fail in the NFL.
Why do these schemes fail? Cause in the NFL as we all know the talent is much higher across the board. In college these things work cause you can exploit inferior talent. In the NFL the worst starting player is better than most college players. What is deeply troubling about all this is that we are 3 years into the Canada experiment and our head coach is still thinking this is a good idea. And more troubling than that is that we ever thought that running a college level offense was going to work in the Pro's.
I could go on and on about other issues with Canada. But the root of the problem is that this is a college level offense (at best, and not really a good one at that) and there are decades of examples of where this just does not work. Canada wasn't even a great college OC and he is an abysmal Pro Level OC.
Ah, another player who has seemed to have "regressed". Now our TE's aren't any good either. Is there anywhere in the Steelers Offense that is bereft of talent?
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Has Crapnada been fired yet? It is Monday morning and Tomlin promised changes, so I was hopefully optimistic he would already be packing his desk up.
We’ve heard about changes before. The change will be Trubisky at QB and Warren at RB. So the team will be worse. Also they’ll start JPJ and bench Wallace. Sorry for the spoiler…
Worse offense in the NFL!
Maybe it isn't a reasonable expectation, but it is what the assignment is on a given play. So that can go back to the coaching issues you have identified. The play design is either asking PF to execute a block that he can not personally handle or that maybe no TE can handle. Either way it is the same result, front 7 players hitting the RB in the backfield.
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PF is watching the play when he’s being asked to block. He is barely making the effort. He is a pass catching TE, that’s just what he is. Asking him to do Washington or Heyward’s job is not going to work. As much as PF is being used this season we could have kept Gentry and traded Muth.
No single player is the problem. We could have prime Ben right now and the offense would still be bad. Better but still bad. The hay is in the barn as far as this season goes. Changes to be made does not mean firing Canada. I just hope changes means stop telegraphing our plays to the defense.
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https://steelersdepot.com/2023/09/it...-his-blocking/
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So they have Ravens this week and then the bye. Nothing will happen until at least the bye week.. Then nothing will happen after that…
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They'll unleash hellSo they have Ravens this week and then the bye. Nothing will happen until at least the bye week.
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I know, I was just hopeful the platitudes meant something this time
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oh snap I thought they already had considering they are playing like hell
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
Let me spoil the ending for everyone: they're not going to fire Canada before the end of the season.
Now I'm sure Tomlin will change things. Like the second half of last year they started running more and more effectively. Collinsworth the other week was going on about how they went from zone to double team blocking schemes. Maybe some personnel changes, maybe JPJ will start, some kind of scheme or play calling changes. We saw Butler get quietly demoted from DC back to coaching linebackers. Maybe Sullivan will quietly start calling plays while Canada retains the DC title. There probably will be changes they will just be more subtle than people want.
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