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    The "Bridge" Quarterback

    Today we saw the difference between a real winning quarterback and...what makes Mitch Trubisky what he is. He is just not good enough. What "Bridge" is Mike Tomlin hoping to cross here?

    But Mike Tomlin doesn't "start" rookies in his club, you know. Boys' Club Tomlin needs to start looking for something else to do. The NFL has changed and the "bridge QB" is a dead and tired myth.

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    Re: The "Bridge" Quarterback

    Only believe in bridge qb if it’s an aging HoFer

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    Re: The "Bridge" Quarterback

    Quote Originally Posted by Edman View Post
    Today we saw the difference between a real winning quarterback and...what makes Mitch Trubisky what he is. He is just not good enough. What "Bridge" is Mike Tomlin hoping to cross here?
    A bridge to nowhere

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    Re: The "Bridge" Quarterback

    But but but....he is now 30-21 as starter....

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    Re: The "Bridge" Quarterback

    Aaron Rodgers may have been the only “option” out there that may have succeeded in this offense today. This team clearly is the exact same offense as it was last year.


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    Re: The "Bridge" Quarterback

    Honestly, people are going to hate on me but I really don't care. I've been making this argument since last year. And many many posters were like "stop being negative", "coaches know what they are doing", "Trubisky has potential", "Cousins is good", and so on and so forth.

    Can we all admit that there were two glaringly obvious things today:
    1. Mitchell Trubisky is not an accurate NFL QB. His ball placement and timing is inconsistent at best and downright awful at worst.
    2. Trubisky has no "feel for the game". He plays robotic and programmed with little ability to make quick and bold decisions.

    I saw nothing today that looked any different than the Bears era. MAYBE....that MT didn't toss any YOLO INTs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Honestly, people are going to hate on me but I really don't care. I've been making this argument since last year. And many many posters were like "stop being negative", "coaches know what they are doing", "Trubisky has potential", "Cousins is good", and so on and so forth.

    Can we all admit that there were two glaringly obvious things today:
    1. Mitchell Trubisky is not an accurate NFL QB. His ball placement and timing is inconsistent at best and downright awful at worst.
    2. Trubisky has no "feel for the game". He plays robotic and programmed with little ability to make quick and bold decisions.

    I saw nothing today that looked any different than the Bears era. MAYBE....that MT didn't toss any YOLO INTs.
    Big difference between watching the game and watching only the stats!

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    Re: The "Bridge" Quarterback

    Tomlin's plan is for Kenny to watch and learn? Uh, I don't think you want this kid to 'learn' anything from Mitch.

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    Re: The "Bridge" Quarterback

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Honestly, people are going to hate on me but I really don't care. I've been making this argument since last year. And many many posters were like "stop being negative", "coaches know what they are doing", "Trubisky has potential", "Cousins is good", and so on and so forth.

    Can we all admit that there were two glaringly obvious things today:
    1. Mitchell Trubisky is not an accurate NFL QB. His ball placement and timing is inconsistent at best and downright awful at worst.
    2. Trubisky has no "feel for the game". He plays robotic and programmed with little ability to make quick and bold decisions.

    I saw nothing today that looked any different than the Bears era. MAYBE....that MT didn't toss any YOLO INTs.
    He’s not good. Just like last season though…the problems run much deeper than just Clutchbisky…


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    Re: The "Bridge" Quarterback

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    He’s not good. Just like last season though…the problems run much deeper than just Clutchbisky…
    Yes. I totally agree and not arguing against that. They could fire Canada tomorrow and I wouldn't make a peep.

    But as long as MT is the starting QB there is no coach that will be able to install and call a consistently successful offense.

    So give Canada or whoever they could bring in a half a chance and let KP learn on the fly.

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    Re: The "Bridge" Quarterback

    Matt Canada can only call so much if the Quarterback cannot make the throws he needs to make. Trubisky was throwing high and off-target all day and horrible throws behind Muth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Yes. I totally agree and not arguing against that. They could fire Canada tomorrow and I wouldn't make a peep.

    But as long as MT is the starting QB there is no coach that will be able to install and call a consistently successful offense.

    So give Canada or whoever they could bring in a half a chance and let KP learn on the fly.
    If rather attempt to do it the other way…I’d rather see a new OC with Trubisky and then go to Pickett…

    It’s looking more and more like we know what Canada is and that frustrates me much more than what we know of MT.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Edman View Post
    Matt Canada can only call so much if the Quarterback cannot make the throws he needs to make. Trubisky was throwing high and off-target all day and horrible throws behind Muth.
    Stop. We went through that narrative with Ben and the routes weren’t there to support that theory. Canada’s offense is terribly basic, simple, easy to defend, easy to predict.

    Whats going to happen is you put Pickett in there, he fails in it just like everyone else, Canada gets another year because the change happened mid season, then Pickett fails in it in 2023 and maybe Canada gets fired, then Pickett is starting all over again in 2024…maybe by 2025 he gets the hang of the new offense, maybe not and by the time his contract is up, you still have no idea what he is…


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    Re: The "Bridge" Quarterback

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    If rather attempt to do it the other way…I’d rather see a new OC with Trubisky and then go to Pickett…

    It’s looking more and more like we know what Canada is and that frustrates me much more than what we know of MT.
    I guess that is where we part ways and that's no problem.

    I wholeheartedly believe that you could have the next great OC and QB guru appear on the Steelers coaching staff tomorrow and it wouldn't matter. There is a hard cap on how well any MT led offense can play.

    Honestly, ideally the Steelers would do both. Anyone have any confidence that Canada and Sullivan are the guys to craft and mold the next franchise QB and playoff winning QB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I guess that is where we part ways and that's no problem.

    I wholeheartedly believe that you could have the next great OC and QB guru appear on the Steelers coaching staff tomorrow and it wouldn't matter. There is a hard cap on how well any MT led offense can play.

    Honestly, ideally the Steelers would do both. Anyone have any confidence that Canada and Sullivan are the guys to craft and mold the next franchise QB and playoff winning QB?
    Not a chance.

    Perfect world, they get a new OC in there next week. Play calling looks better, OL looks better and KP starts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Stop. We went through that narrative with Ben and the routes weren’t there to support that theory. Canada’s offense is terribly basic, simple, easy to defend, easy to predict.

    Whats going to happen is you put Pickett in there, he fails in it just like everyone else, Canada gets another year because the change happened mid season, then Pickett fails in it in 2023 and maybe Canada gets fired, then Pickett is starting all over again in 2024…maybe by 2025 he gets the hang of the new offense, maybe not and by the time his contract is up, you still have no idea what he is…
    The Steelers went through 25 years between Bradshaw and Ben for a good reason. Good NFL QB's don't grow on trees. Just ask the Broncos who finally said "eff it" after running on the treadmill and signed Wilson. Or ask how the Colts are doing today after their big FA QB signing was only good enough for a tie against the Texans. We take guys like Prime Ben for granted. Trubisky was barely harassed and had minimal pressure all day and it was still an ordeal on Offense with several horrendous throws.

    Nah, it just can't be possible for the Steelers to go from a once-good but declined QB to another substandard QB. I'd hate to say it, but welcome to the QB conga line. Shades of Malone, Blackledge, and Brister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edman View Post
    The Steelers went through 25 years between Bradshaw and Ben for a good reason. Good NFL QB's don't grow on trees. Just ask the Broncos who finally said "eff it" and signed Wilson. Or ask how the Colts are doing today after their big FA QB signing was only good enough for a tie against the Texans. We take guys like Prime Ben for granted.

    Nah, it just can't be possible for the Steelers to go from a once-good but declined QB to another substandard QB. I'd hate to say it, but welcome to the QB conga line. Shades of Malone, Blackledge, and Brister.
    Maybe but it can change quickly...it can be short like it can take over 70 years and counting like the bears right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edman View Post
    The Steelers went through 25 years between Bradshaw and Ben for a good reason. Good NFL QB's don't grow on trees. Just ask the Broncos who finally said "eff it" after running on the treadmill and signed Wilson. Or ask how the Colts are doing today after their big FA QB signing was only good enough for a tie against the Texans. We take guys like Prime Ben for granted. Trubisky was barely harassed and had minimal pressure all day and it was still an ordeal on Offense with several horrendous throws.

    Nah, it just can't be possible for the Steelers to go from a once-good but declined QB to another substandard QB. I'd hate to say it, but welcome to the QB conga line. Shades of Malone, Blackledge, and Brister.
    I won’t disagree with that at all. It could be years before they find another Ben and/or Bradshaw. But I won’t pin everything on Trubisky, as bad as I think he is. Canada is just as bad if not worse.


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    Re: The "Bridge" Quarterback

    we should have traded away the future for ARod ........ <insert sarcasm here> .....................
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    we should have traded away the future for ARod ........ <insert sarcasm here> .....................
    Replace Rodgers with Russell Wilson....

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    Re: The "Bridge" Quarterback

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Replace Rodgers with Russell Wilson....
    a completely different conversation IMO....

    Age and amount of service you can get as a return becomes a factor ...still not a trade I would make but it is at the very least one worthy of a discussion
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    a completely different conversation IMO....

    Age and amount of service you can get as a return becomes a factor ...still not a trade I would make but it is at the very least one worthy of a discussion
    honestly I would make that trade for Wilson without flinching. We’re a franchise QB away from a SB contender

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    Re: The "Bridge" Quarterback

    Quote Originally Posted by DuckHodges View Post
    honestly I would make that trade for Wilson without flinching. We’re a franchise QB away from a SB contender
    He wasn’t so smart last night…lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    He wasn’t so smart last night…lol
    It took 2 fumbles at goal line and a poor coaching decision to lose , Wilson wasn’t great but didn’t lose the game.

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    Re: The "Bridge" Quarterback

    The bridge to nowhere.

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    Re: The "Bridge" Quarterback

    Quote Originally Posted by Edman View Post
    The bridge to nowhere.
    LOL, came here to post this. MT was horrible today.

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    Re: The "Bridge" Quarterback

    I find one common theme to this failed offensive system and that is Matt Canada ....

    everyone blamed Ben , now they Blame Mitch , problem is its the same shitty play calls and the same shitty results ....

    the other common factor is when Ben went no huddle he succeeded and the team looked like a completely different team . today 1 drive was no huddle and guess what was the only good drive of the day ...

    but hey you can ignore the facts all day long but it won't change them ...

    is Mitch perfect , no but he was fire when he commanded the offense and it looked like a different offensive unit ( common theme with Ben last year with no huddle / hurry up )

    you can switch QB's 100 times but if the play calling doesn't change we likely see very little change in results


    this loss falls straight at the feet of Gunner
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Re: The "Bridge" Quarterback

    Watching end of dolphins ravens, seems this offense thing could be a good thing Pittsburgh could learn how to do

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCSteeler View Post
    Watching end of dolphins ravens, seems this offense thing could be a good thing Pittsburgh could learn how to do

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    Re: The "Bridge" Quarterback

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    I find one common theme to this failed offensive system and that is Matt Canada ....

    everyone blamed Ben , now they Blame Mitch , problem is its the same shitty play calls and the same shitty results ....

    the other common factor is when Ben went no huddle he succeeded and the team looked like a completely different team . today 1 drive was no huddle and guess what was the only good drive of the day ...

    but hey you can ignore the facts all day long but it won't change them ...

    is Mitch perfect , no but he was fire when he commanded the offense and it looked like a different offensive unit ( common theme with Ben last year with no huddle / hurry up )

    you can switch QB's 100 times but if the play calling doesn't change we likely see very little change in results


    this loss falls straight at the feet of Gunner
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