Lamar Jackson

[polamalubeast]

He came back just last night. They missed on the 2pt conversion, but that drive for the score still happened.

True and Lamar was also perfect in the final 4 drives with 4 TD....I don't think current Flacco or Rodgers would done this

[Born2Steel]

True and Lamar was also perfect in the final 4 drives with 4 TD....I don't think current Flacco or Rodgers would done this

You don't think so?

[polamalubeast]

You don't think so?

you are crazy and just a hater at this point.....bye

[Born2Steel]

you are crazy and just a hater at this point.....bye

PB, don't get mad. When I added Rodgers and Flacco it was tongue in cheek. Nobody thinks those 2 are what they once were.

When you say, Burrow is not good at comebacks, and I point out he comeback just last night, that is not something against LJ. So saying LJ scored on his last 4 has nothing to do with my response.

At this point it's just throwing up arguments to keep the argument going. Simplest issue really. Your list of favorite QBs looks different than others. You are a stat watcher. Better stats means better player by your standard. I don't see it that black and white. So I have a different list.

[86WARD]

This post is funny. They played head to head. Who won? This isn’t fantasy football? Where was the greatness of LJ against the Raiders and the Browns?

LJ is having a better regular season individually but that doesn’t make him a better quarterback. Game on the line, 53 seconds left. Down 6. Starting from your own 30. Are you taking LJ or PM?

The question wasn’t who I am taking on the line. Lamar is playing better than Mahomes right now. If the game is on the line in the playoffs, I’ll take Mahomes. Right now in the regular season, Mahomes isn’t playing like a Top-5 QB so far this seasons. Sure that will probably change but he’s been less than impressive as far as Patrick Mahomes standards go. Lamar is playing better.

[86WARD]

Mahomes is still the QB I trust the more in clutch situation in a big game until he prove otherwise

I wouldn’t disagree with that.

[DesertSteel]

First Stafford was with one of the worst NFL team at that time when he was in Detroit....Second,Burrow is great,top 4 QB for me but he is also not the best to comeback when he has few time left in the game.Both can be true

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Carmelo has never been in the first team all-nba in his career....Never.Very good players in his prime but difference with Lamar,he is a 2 time MVP,possible he will be 3 time MVP after this year...Can't compare an all-star to a MVP caliber player mutiples times!

Okay. Let’s make it Iverson. Is that better? This is the first season LJ is a top 5 quarterback based on his passing. Excuse me if I’m not ready to make him an all time great, along with his 2 playoff wins.

[polamalubeast]

PB, don't get mad. When I added Rodgers and Flacco it was tongue in cheek. Nobody thinks those 2 are what they once were.

When you say, Burrow is not good at comebacks, and I point out he comeback just last night, that is not something against LJ. So saying LJ scored on his last 4 has nothing to do with my response.

At this point it's just throwing up arguments to keep the argument going. Simplest issue really. Your list of favorite QBs looks different than others. You are a stat watcher. Better stats means better player by your standard. I don't see it that black and white. So I have a different list.

I'm not just a stat watcher...I watched the last two Ravens games and it's very impressive to see how Lamar plays...Sometimes, the Ravens offense is very unstoppable, so much so that the opponent has to choose the poison against them...I don't think the Ravens will win the Super Bowl and maybe not even win the AFC North because of their poor pass defenses...Burrow is also great, one of the reasons why he's in my top 4 and he would easily be an MVP candidate this year if the Bengals hadn't wasted so many good performances from him this year, especially against the Ravens

But for the stats, at the end of the day, it's the result that matters, not the style and Lamar has been one of the best QBs in the NFL 4 times in the last 6 seasons and you can't deny the Ravens offense has been elite for the most part since he's been the starter regardless of his supporting cast

It's also true he was terrible in the playoffs, similar to Peyton Manning at the start of his career

[Born2Steel]

Okay. Let’s make it Iverson. Is that better? This is the first season LJ is a top 5 quarterback based on his passing. Excuse me if I’m not ready to make him an all time great, along with his 2 playoff wins.

This is all I'm saying too. The ability is there, show me you can do it over time.

[polamalubeast]

Okay. Let’s make it Iverson. Is that better? This is the first season LJ is a top 5 quarterback based on his passing. Excuse me if I’m not ready to make him an all time great, along with his 2 playoff wins.

Iverson has been a MVP one year,even if he was not a top 3 players in the NBA that year since Duncan,Shaq and Kobe were better and he has not been close to win another MVP outside of 2001...For the NBA,Giannis is a better comparaison....Great talent but he also has some flaw in their game

In the NFL,the best comparaison if you talk only after 6-7 seasons is Peyton Manning....complete different player but elite like crazy in the regular season with big struggle in the playoffs...we will see if it will change for Lamar....Career wise,of course he is not one of the best QB ever yet,he need some playoffs success for that but his career is not over,his chance to be in the HOF at this point is very high who is always great to be at that point when you are still like only 27 or 28 years old?

[DesertSteel]

I’m glad you acknowledge that he needs playoff success to be considered an all time great.

[Born2Steel]

Now he's Peyton Manning.

[Crow-Magnon]

Iverson has been a MVP one year,even if he was not a top 3 players in the NBA that year since Duncan,Shaq and Kobe were better and he has not been close to win another MVP outside of 2001...For the NBA,Giannis is a better comparaison....Great talent but he also has some flaw in their game

In the NFL,the best comparaison if you talk only after 6-7 seasons is Peyton Manning....complete different player but elite like crazy in the regular season with big struggle in the playoffs...we will see if it will change for Lamar....Career wise,of course he is not one of the best QB ever yet,he need some playoffs success for that but his career is not over,his chance to be in the HOF at this point is very high who is always great to be at that point when you are still like only 27 or 28 years old?

I understand what you’re saying. And it’s true. Peyton Manning waited for success in the post-season for quite a while. It eventually came. But during those first years, it was not decided that he was a failure and not a great QB due to a lack of post-season success. Lamar doesn’t seem to get the same consideration.

I believe what my eyes tell me. Jackson is a helluva QB. Yes, he’s a wonder running the ball, but yes, he can throw it, too. People can deny that, but that doesn’t make it true.