My money is on Pickett. He is the most complete, polished QB in the Draft.
My money is on Pickett. He is the most complete, polished QB in the Draft.
Pickett just because every Pitt Panther 1st round QB has been a Hall of Famer so far. And they have put out 4 Hall of Famers in the last 20 years (Fitz, Revis, McCoy, Donald).
Two of them some of the most dominant players the game has seen (Fitz, Donald).
I like those odds.
Sure, my rational needs some work.
I did a lot of drugs in the 90's, and by a lot I mean "not that many, but more than I probably should have".
The Steelers are going to need someone to compete with Joe Burrow if they want to be kind of relevant for the next 15-20 years. That kid just might turn into something special.
So we are going to need one too.
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Pickett: DesertSteel, FireGoodell, EzraTank, that1guy, lipps83
Corral: ETL, Harbaughtissue, Born2Steel, Steelernwest
Howell: Dwinsgames
Ridder: Cubanstogie, Rotorhead
Willis: RunNGun
Strong: Mojouw
someone else: 86Ward
I’m either gonna get to gloat or eat a ton of!!
Good thing I’ve got some experience. The key is small bites.
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Carl Pickens?Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler
I predict it won't be Pickens.
Slim Pickens? (see what I did there?)
hmmm where have I heard the Howell / Bree's comparison before ...
Oh yeah here .... from me ......
https://www.nfl.com/news/2022-nfl-dr...arterback-pros
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
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And Brees went in the top of the second round, where Howell will go.
Defense at 20
Then, trade up (to 28-32?) to get Howell…
and the evaluations by most were wrong ( the point ) otherwise Brees would have went #1 over all and no worse than top 5
https://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/years/2001
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
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It has nothing to do with how good he will be. It's all about projected value at this stage. I don't see any scenario where Howell goes in R1.
but you are not a teams GM so maybe that is why .... granted I am not either but the perception of the talking heads is what forces most to form an opinion .... those same talking heads for the most part had Mahomes as a very late 1st rounder and most had him as a mid second round pick .... the reality is the Chiefs thought differently and traded up to take him in round 1 and he has been the best QB from that draft class that talking heads claimed was 2-3 years away from any meaningful NFL starts but year two he was league MVP making those talking heads look like idiots ( but people have a short memory and continue to take their word as gospel ) I mean if they were actually that good at what they do they would be working for teams not networks...
for the record Howell is the best QB in this class , 3 years vs Picketts 5 and stat for stat Howell out produced on average every single year including QB rating , yards per attempt and TD passes , hell Howell had more TD passes in 3 years than Picket did in 5 years ... so other than actually success on the field of play what are you using to determine how good someone is ??
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
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Well, I guess we'll see who is the better armchair GM come draft day. I really don't see any QB other than Malik and Pickett going in R1, and they're not locks. I'd be super happy if the Steelers traded up into the top of R2 and took Howell. For one thing, it would remove the pressure to succeed instantly. For another, it would allow Trubisky time to show what he has to offer. And most importantly, it would allow the team to take a stud on defense or WR.
As far as college career... how did Burrow stack up?
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I could live with this. DT in round 1 to bolster run defense would make me happy
you can base it on who goes , I prefer to base it on who should go ..... ( see Brees ) .... Malik is gonna be in way over his head in the NFL , he may never materialize into a solid pro small school , trouble reading defenses , gonna be a steep learning curve .... Pickett also has the deck stacked against him , 5th year sr with 1 solid year of production some teams may have taken him off their board do to hand size and others due to age ( 24 year old rookie by the time camp comes around ) ....
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
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I never said that Howell wouldn't be the best, just that he's not going in R1. Personally, I think Pickett will have the best career.
I’m old enough to remember CowherSux’s reaction to the Steelers passing on Drew Brees.
Malik may not translate into an NFL QB just like the rest of the top 5 or 6 QBs. Not one of these QBs are sure prospects, but the fact is Malik is a better looking prospect than Sam Howell, which is why Malik will go in the first and Howell in the 2nd. We will see who the better pro is and if it's Howell I will crown you the greatest armchair GM in the SteelersUniverse, but until then Malik Willis is better than Sam Howell.
he is better ?
by what determining factor would that be by surely not performances ...
throwing a deep ball vs no defenders in shorts ? ummm ok lol I guess that would make Jamarcus Russell the greatest QB to ever play in the NFL ... Oh wait he wasnt ... yeah see my point
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
I should have just said better prospect. I'm saying is he is a better looking prospect if that makes sense...physical traits, leadership, charisma. That's why Malik will go in round 1, ahead of Howell.
You keep bringing up his workout in shorts yet you can easily see how great of a deep ball he throws on film as well.
maybe OL (Linderbaum) at 20, and trade up for Howell (as a side only thing that concerns me about Howell is his lack of height)
Penning or Linderbaum and then trade up is good with me.
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Does Linderbaum’s lack of size and short arms scare you? I wouldn’t mind Zion Johnson (OG/C, BC).
And then, YES, trading up for Howell (or Ridder… whomever is still there).
It didn’t. Then it did when people made a big deal out of it and then it didn’t. If the guy can play, he can play. He played against good competition in the Big Ten. At some point, the measurables are just numbers and a guy can play or he can’t play.
Penning is who I really want.
I’ve experienced that exact same pendulum swing.
Alas, no one from the Steelers was at Penning’s pro day… not even the area scout. Sorry, brother.
Smoke screen...I’ve experienced that exact same pendulum swing.
Alas, no one from the Steelers was at Penning’s pro day… not even the area scout. Sorry, brother.
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It will likely be someone like Carson Strong or Bailey Zappe that goes on to have a Pro Bowl career out of this listless group.
I thought Linderbaum was about average size for a center, 291 and 6-3.....Howell could turn into a Tarkenton or Brees, or he could be another Mayfield....
If I had to pick one of the listed, it would be Corral and it wouldn’t be close.
After 3 years ? Umm, I may have to pick the 'someone else' choice. None of the names mentioned hit me with big potential stats. NFL is a total different game scenario.
I know fans of NFL teams get excited by the draft every year and the QBs available in them, and we all love to proclaim player 'x' is the guy who is going to be a franchise QB..............but just in case anyone needs a reminder of just how hard it is to find a QB who can be a multi-year quality starter, take a look at this NFL.com ranking of every QB class over the last 22 years. It paints a very grim picture as very, very few become long-term starters.
https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-draft-r...nce-2000-x2136
Obviously, the 2004 class with Ben is still the premier draft class in the 2000s.
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