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    whats wrong with this country ?? i'll tell you

    Tax his land, Tax his bed, Tax the table,
    At which he's fed.

    Tax his tractor, Tax his mule, Teach him taxes
    Are the rule.

    Tax his work, Tax his pay, He works for peanuts anyway!

    Tax his cow, Tax his goat, Tax his pants,
    Tax his coat.

    Tax his ties, Tax his shirt, Tax his work,
    Tax his dirt.

    Tax his tobacco, Tax his drink, Tax him if he
    Tries to think.

    Tax his cigars, Tax his beers, If he cries Tax his tears.

    Tax his car, Tax his gas, Find other ways
    To tax his ass.

    Tax all he has Then let him know
    That you won't be done Till he has no dough.

    When he screams and hollers; Then tax him some more, Tax him till He's good and sore.

    Then tax his coffin, Tax his grave, Tax the sod in Which he's laid...

    Put these words Upon his tomb, Taxes drove me to my doom...'

    When he's gone, Do not relax, Its time to apply The inheritance tax.

    Accounts Receivable Tax

    Building Permit Tax

    CDL license Tax

    Cigarette Tax

    Corporate Income Tax

    Dog License Tax

    Excise Taxes

    Federal Income Tax

    Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)

    Fishing License Tax

    Food License Tax

    Fuel Permit Tax

    Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)

    Gross Receipts Tax

    Hunting License Tax

    Inheritance Tax

    Inventory Tax

    IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)

    Liquor Tax

    Luxury Taxes

    Marriage License Tax

    Medicare Tax

    Personal Property Tax

    Property Tax

    Real Estate Tax

    Service Charge Tax

    Social Security Tax

    Road Usage Tax

    Recreational Vehicle Tax

    Sales Tax

    School Tax

    State Income Tax

    State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)

    Telephone Federal Excise Tax

    Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax

    Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes

    Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax

    Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax

    Telephone State and Local Tax

    Telephone Usage Charge Tax

    Utility Taxes

    Vehicle License Registration Tax

    Vehicle Sales Tax

    Watercraft Registration Tax

    Well Permit Tax

    Workers Compensation Tax

    STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?

    Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world.

    We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

    What in the heck happened? Can you spell 'politicians?'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    Tax his land, Tax his bed, Tax the table,
    At which he's fed.

    Tax his tractor, Tax his mule, Teach him taxes
    Are the rule.

    Tax his work, Tax his pay, He works for peanuts anyway!

    Tax his cow, Tax his goat, Tax his pants,
    Tax his coat.

    Tax his ties, Tax his shirt, Tax his work,
    Tax his dirt.

    Tax his tobacco, Tax his drink, Tax him if he
    Tries to think.

    Tax his cigars, Tax his beers, If he cries Tax his tears.

    Tax his car, Tax his gas, Find other ways
    To tax his ass.

    Tax all he has Then let him know
    That you won't be done Till he has no dough.

    .................................................. ...........................snip................... .............


    Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world.

    We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

    What in the heck happened? Can you spell 'politicians?'

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    Give a lib a fish--he eats for a day

    Teach a lib to fish--he is back the next day asking for more free fish.

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    Good to see that they've recycled the same old ideas into cartoon form. Back in my day you had to actual read this lunacy...

    Wonder how many people can name the figures in the cartoon...I got some of them but not all...Or are they all just fed reserve chairs?

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    it’s funny how a bigger government makes the wealthy even more wealthy and taxes the crap out of the middle class.

    A smaller government reflecting the needs of the middle class and poor is superior to a big government
    reflecting the needs of the privileged and powerful.
    Robert Reich

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    What till you find out that Reich also supports a universal basic income, free access to education at all levels, and also thinks taxes are the price we all pay to live in a civilized society.

    There's more, but that is just a thumbnail sketch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    What till you find out that Reich also supports a universal basic income, free access to education at all levels, and also thinks taxes are the price we all pay to live in a civilized society.

    There's more, but that is just a thumbnail sketch.
    I don’t care about his other alleged positions. What he said above is truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    I don’t care about his other alleged positions. What he said above is truth.
    Yeah, its almost as if you can like a certain idea without automatically buying into every single other thing that person ever said. But disingenuously putting words into your mouth is kind of what the left does. Super clever! Except not really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    I don’t care about his other alleged positions. What he said above is truth.
    Maybe. But Reich does not believe or worked towards the type of "hands off" small government most on here opine for.

    Reich has worked under multiple administrations to expand and elaborate the role of government. He simply wants to redirect federal funds to the middle class rather than the corporate class. For instance, no corporate bailouts but a higher minimum wage, strong publicly funded worker training programs, and income assistance to individual workers.

    Basically a coastal liberal elite that is coming to deliver the scourge of socialism and redistribution of wealth as a pox on all our houses.

    But...the quote out of all context looks bad-ass, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Maybe. But Reich does not believe or worked towards the type of "hands off" small government most on here opine for.

    Reich has worked under multiple administrations to expand and elaborate the role of government. He simply wants to redirect federal funds to the middle class rather than the corporate class. For instance, no corporate bailouts but a higher minimum wage, strong publicly funded worker training programs, and income assistance to individual workers.

    Basically a coastal liberal elite that is coming to deliver the scourge of socialism and redistribution of wealth as a pox on all our houses.

    But...the quote out of all context looks bad-ass, right?
    i think your trying too hard to be 'badass' by trying to make this about Reich's biography rather than focus on the message itself.

    for the record there is a huge problem in this country of government putting all the tax and cost burden on the middle class through cost of living increases, food cost increases, gas increases, ridiculous environmental rules, funding illegal immigration, etc. The rich don't care, they'll gladly pay for higher food costs and 7, 10, 15 dollars a gallon for gas in the name of some foreign policy adventure. But these costs hit the middle class hard - the rich like Steven Colbert don't care. Pay more for gas cause your a 'Patriotic American' - what bullshit. And you talk about Corporate bailouts? We've been bailing out the big banks and corporations for 10 years with all time low interest rates and QE gone wild - and that's been causing the stock market to break record after record, benefiting CEO's and shareholders, but doesn't do much for affordable cost of living or interest on saving accounts , all the while the value of the dollar is going to the crapper - that's your government intervention - i could get into NAFTA and shipping jobs overseas but i won't....anyway it goes on and on.

    the money you were supposed to get in normal savings interest and savings through affordable cost of living is going to the CEO's, major shareholders, politicians and their lobbyists...

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelreserve View Post
    Yeah, its almost as if you can like a certain idea without automatically buying into every single other thing that person ever said. But disingenuously putting words into your mouth is kind of what the left does. Super clever! Except not really.
    Attacking the messenger when they don't like the message...its f****n childish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    for the record there is a huge problem in this country of government putting all the tax and cost burden on the middle class ..............
    Then stop voting for Republicans. The left has been trying to increases taxes on the upper class for years but the right won't hear of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver & black View Post
    A YouTube cartoon...Funny how those are cool when they bolster your view of things.
    That's Reich's "view of things".

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    A YouTube cartoon... Funny how those are cool when they bolster your view of things.

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    Don't worry, in another 3 years we'll have another one of those great presidential elections, and after it's over, everything will be magically fixed and your quality of living will improve dramatically /s

    Actually, nothing will change no matter who wins. The government isn't interested in anything but keeping the status quo going. If you think your 'side' gives a flying fuck about you, you're wrong lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    Don't worry, in another 3 years we'll have another one of those great presidential elections, and after it's over, everything will be magically fixed and your quality of living will improve dramatically /s

    Actually, nothing will change no matter who wins. The government isn't interested in anything but keeping the status quo going. If you think your 'side' gives a flying fuck about you, you're wrong lol
    Very sad….but true! Anyone who is truly qualified and should be president, doesn’t want it. I mean really, what intelligent person wants their colon publicly scrutinized for a couple of years, just to end up dealing with the likes of congress and Putin.

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    Give a lib a fish--he eats for a day

    Teach a lib to fish--he is back the next day asking for more free fish.

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    Haha, tax the wealthy? Why do that when we can vote in another dumb shit billionaire?


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    Nobody's going after the rich, all of our candidates are multi millionaires / billionaires, you really think these guys are going to do anything against their own interests? "come on man"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    Nobody's going after the rich, all of our candidates are multi millionaires / billionaires, you really think these guys are going to do anything against their own interests? "come on man"
    Another BS excuse from the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubanstogie View Post
    If you like record gas and food prices, inflation and wars............
    Hey:

    Last edited by willy; 03-28-2022 at 04:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willy View Post
    Another BS excuse from the right.
    Ask yourself then, has anything changed in the last 20 years as far as how government runs shit? All I see is a bunch of people arguing about which rich cocksucker in office cares about them the most lol. And the answer is not at all, unless you're one of their corporate donors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    Ask yourself then, has anything changed in the last 20 years as far as how government runs shit? All I see is a bunch of people arguing about which rich cocksucker in office cares about them the most lol. And the answer is not at all, unless you're one of their corporate donors.
    And who's fault is that? The voters that's who, and most specifically the voters on the right.

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    Civil War II?

    "A new civil war? Maybe so — but it won't look anything like the first one

    Scholar Barbara Walter foresees 9/11-style attacks, and a sustained insurgency, rather than straight-up warfare


    ...
    Barbara Walter is a professor of political science at the University of California, San Diego, and one of the world's leading experts on civil wars, political violence and terrorism. She is also a permanent member of the Council on Foreign Relations and has consulted for the State Department, the Department of Defense, the UN and the World Bank. Her essays and other commentaries have been featured at CNN, the Los Angeles Times, the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post. Walter's new book is "How Civil Wars Start: And How to Stop Them."....

    This conversation has been edited for clarity and length.

    Donald Trump continues to threaten political violence against his "enemies" if he is punished for his crimes. Michael Flynn, Steve Bannon and other right-wing propagandists are also threatening political violence on a near-daily basis across the right-wing media echo chamber. The FBI and law enforcement continue to uncover potential right-wing terrorist plots. Why are so few people taking these dangers of right-wing violence seriously?

    I believe it is human nature for people to not want to believe that they and their fellow citizens are capable of such things. Many people want to live in a world of wishful thinking where life is going to continue to go on in the same way that it always has.

    If it is sunny today and you go to work and afterwards you have drinks with friends and then there is the weekend when you get to watch football and it's like that today, your bias is that it's always going to be that way.

    People are status-quo biased. They truly believe that the way things are today is the way that things are going to be forever. As a result, many people do not see the warning signs. What is so amazing is that throughout history, violent extremists are often very public about their intentions, what their goals are and what strategy they're going to pursue to achieve those goals. Hitler is perhaps the best example. He wrote and published "Mein Kampf," laying out exactly what he intended to do. If you look at neo-Nazis and other white supremacists here in the United States and elsewhere, they have a book called "The Siege" which details exactly what their plans and intentions are.

    The bible of the alt-right is a book called "The Turner Diaries." It lays out exactly how they intend to start a second civil war in the United States. "The Turner Diaries" includes an attack on the U.S. Capitol, and in that book a working gallows is erected outside the Capitol where they're going to bring "traitors" out for trial and then kill them. They're not hiding what they intend to do, and yet throughout history, the people who are at risk have not taken those messages, warnings and manifestos seriously....

    At one of Trump's recent rallies, he told his followers to be ready to die to defeat "critical race theory." Michael Flynn recently told his audience he wanted them to "charge machine gun nests" in service to their cause. How do you fit these examples within your model of a second civil war or other massive violence in the United States?

    One of the challenges that violent extremists have is how to expand their base of support. If they don't expand their support base, they just remain fringe movements forever. One way is to provoke a harsh government response. Let's say that there are peaceful protests, but then there are provocateurs there who try to get the police to open fire or to bash a few heads. Violence entrepreneurs will use those actions as evidence that the police or the government or the opposition are evil and intent on crushing them.

    That tactic is often successful in radicalizing at least some portion of average citizens. It pushes them towards the extremists. Donald Trump is what I would describe as an "ethnic entrepreneur." He and his loyalists want to regain power. He is an autocrat. Trump has no interest in ruling democratically. But Trump is not going to get that power back without the support of the average white American. This means that Donald Trump has to convince them somehow that his is a worthy cause to defend.

    How many people, in terms of a whole population, does such a movement need to take over society and impose its will on the public?

    There is not much data on that question. Research suggests that perhaps 3% of the population is necessary to challenge whatever leader or group is in power. That is a quite small percentage, but if there is 3% of the American population out in the streets in a sustained way, it is actually enormous. You do not need a lot of people to start a civil war that's going to be incredibly costly to the country as a whole. All they would need are a few militia groups who are effective at targeting infrastructure and shutting down the economy............."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin...sedgntp&cvid=ceaf96e4dd544bbd825456c679a2ab 20

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    Quote Originally Posted by willy View Post
    And who's fault is that? The voters that's who, and most specifically the voters on the right.
    Both sides are at fault. Obama froze our pay for 3 years because of the financial crisis, and basically kept it frozen during the biggest market recovery since ever (I consider a 1% raise to be jack shit), he was no friend of the middle class. Not a single banker got jailed over 2008, dude was a corporate pawn.

    Sure, the republicans are bought off. I look at the parties like this. The democrats will give you a nice feel-good song and dance and stab you in the back. The republicans will stab you but they'll let you know it's coming lol.

    For the record I have no love for either party, which why I've always either been not voting or voting for a 3rd party

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    Nobody's going after the rich, all of our candidates are multi millionaires / billionaires, you really think these guys are going to do anything against their own interests? "come on man"
    Well one of them lost a ton of money in office. And donated his salary to charities. The other enriched himself. See any difference. Add Osama to the list on the later side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penglose View Post
    Well one of them lost a ton of money in office. And donated his salary to charities. The other enriched himself. See any difference. Add Osama to the list on the later side.
    Exactly

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    They shouldn't make it so rough on him.

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    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles problem now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    It's all bs. For 8 years they've been committing election interference with farce attempts to take out their political opponent. That these aholes talk about democracy is a complete joke.This country is so screwed and will continue to get worse with these clowns running the show. Buckle up for darker days if they keep their foothold. As far as forthcoming terror on American soil,their open border damage has already been done. It's not a matter of if,but when.

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    Give a lib a fish--he eats for a day

    Teach a lib to fish--he is back the next day asking for more free fish.

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    Tax the super wealthy:

    Biden proposes new minimum tax on billionaires, unrealized gains

    Biden's billionaire tax would reduce deficit by $360B over next 10 years
    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...budget-request

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