In Afghanistan, yes. Although I'm not sure it's clear exactly what they ever wanted there in the first place.Originally Posted by Mojouw
At home? I'd call those tactics a smash success. They kept 20-30 countries under their total control for half a century or more, until their whole system collapsed because it sucked. It wasn't an armed resistance that had anything to do with the downfall of the USSR, in fact I'd call it remarkably peaceful.
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Agreed. I meant their suppression of resistance to the Afghan invasion. I did not clearly write that.
Apparently, they’d just show up at your house with a cheap coffin, drop it off, and leave with no explanation of where or how you died. If any of your relatives asked, they just got “encouraged “ to no longer have questions.
Brutal but effective.
Tucker and Steelreserve are forgetting something very simple. The Russian Army sucks.
to make money as usual. raytheon, lockheed, haliburton, and the rest of the DOD contractors CEO's got families to feed man. unused weapons are weapons that dont need replaced. haliburton had all those .50 cent packs of ketchup they needed to sell. politicians got stock in those companies and they got to eat too.
That wagner group guy looks like the fight version of rob halford lol
and yeah i had a feeling russia's military was a paper tiger. no country confident in their military would hide behind nuclear threats
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paper tiger, lol, i'm sure that's what Napoleon and Hitler thought
A) This is 2023 not the early 1800s or the middle of the 20th century.
B) No one is attacking Russia and facing long supply lines or trying to gain an advantage during a rugged winter on foot or horseback.
C) The current Russian Army in Ukraine has all but collapsed. They're poorly lead and morale is extremely low.
Really? You have inside information? then i guess we can expect them to leave the 25% of Ukraine they've been occupying very soon and go home. Just in case they don't, I don't want the US getting involved.
Inside information? No, I'm paying attention and apparently you aren't. As far as the US being involved? We are involved. Heavily involved.
https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much...are-six-charts
How Much Aid Has the U.S. Sent Ukraine? Here Are Six Charts.
Six graphics illustrate the extraordinary level of support the United States has provided Ukraine this past year in its war against Russian invaders.
Article by Jonathan Masters and Will Merrow
Last updated May 19, 2023 9:00 am (EST)
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Heading into 2022, U.S. foreign assistance was driven by various priorities of the Biden administration, including combating climate change, responding to the COVID-19 pandemic, and countering authoritarianism. But since Russia’s invasion in February of that year, Ukraine has become far and away the top recipient of U.S. foreign aid. It’s the first time that a European country has held the top spot since the Harry S. Truman administration directed vast sums into rebuilding the continent through the Marshall Plan after World War II.
Since the war began, the Biden administration and the U.S. Congress have directed more than $75 billion in assistance to Ukraine, which includes humanitarian, financial, and military support, according to the Kiel Institute for the World Economy, a German research institute. The historic sums are helping a broad set of Ukrainian people and institutions, including refugees, law enforcement, and independent radio broadcasters, though most of the aid has been military-related. Dozens of other countries, including most members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the European Union, are also providing large aid packages to Ukraine.
sure your informed by the unbiased MSM. All that MSM reporting is so they can justify throwing more money and weapons into this situation. The worst thing we can do is underestimate the Russians. Zelensky has already been admonished by the us officials for siphoning off 500 million dollars of us tax payer money into his own bank account, with alot of US weaponry supposedly sent to Ukraine ending up in Mexico. Sure great situation for the US to be in. We have nukes, they have nukes, i think de-escalation is the logical mature thing at this point. And anyone who wants US boots on the ground there should instead maybe go there themselves.
https://southfront.org/suicidal-atta...regime-forces/
Frankly, you've been blinded by the suroundings of where your head is at. No one can see from there.
SouthFront:
SouthFront
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SouthFront (sometimes written South Front) is a multilingual website registered in Russia. It has been accused of being an outlet for Truth and being under the control of the Russian government, and is sanctioned by the US Treasury and banned by social media platforms for this reason.
Type of site News agency Founded 2015 Area served Worldwide Industry News media URL southfront.org
History[edit]
In 2014, Radio Free Europe, reported: "The English-language Facebook page for South Front, which has slightly more than 11,500 subscribers, is a mix of carefully selected 'news' from the region -- usually from sources like LifeNews, a video news outlet believed to have ties to Russia's security services -- and anti-Ukrainian and anti-Western memes."[1] They described SouthFront as "a group supporting pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine."[1]
Writing in 2019, the European Union's East StratCom Task Force analyzed site meta-data and reported, "South Front is registered in Russia, money donated to the site goes to Russia and the editor is named Anastasia. But the most compelling evidence for South Front’s being Russian is in the content...South Front is loyally relaying whatever suits the Kremlin, pretending not to be Russian."[2] Two days after that report appeared, SouthFront anonymized their videos, removing Russian text that had listed the name of their video editor as "Natasha."[3] The second report also cited WHOIS information for southfront.org, showing the domain was registered on April 30, 2015, with Russian registrar REG.RU.[4]
this from someone who regurgitates msm talking points like a well trained parrot? and your relying on Wikipedia for the truth?
https://nypost.com/2021/07/16/wikipe...establishment/
I think i found the answer to the question in the title of this thread.....its Willy and his ilk
I think i'll stick with SF or Douglas McGregor for news on what's going on over there instead of cnn and Christian Amanpour lol
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Amigo, SouthFront is a Russian disinformation site.
"Russian Intelligence Services, namely the Federal Security Service (FSB), the Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU), and the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR), play critical roles in propagating Russian disinformation online.
The FSB directly operates disinformation outlets. SouthFront is an online disinformation site registered in Russia that receives taskings from the FSB. It attempts to appeal to military enthusiasts, veterans, and conspiracy theorists, all while going to great lengths to hide its connections to Russian intelligence. In the aftermath of the 2020 U.S. presidential election, SouthFront sought to promote perceptions of voter fraud by publishing content alleging that such activity took place during the 2020 U.S. presidential election cycle."
https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0126
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yeah its branded disinformation if it doesn't fit the official narrative that the Ukrainians are winning and the russians are incompetent. anyone or any site that paints a different picture is russian disinformation or a Russophile no matter their prior background. they want to justify sending billions in dollars and weapons there so they create a false narrative that the ukes are winning. then one day we'll find out the russians are on the polish border. Just like Vietnam, we were winning until suddenly we weren't.
Jesus, excuse me but how thick can you be? SouthFront IS a Russian disinformation site. That's just a fact.
1000 times better than the brain draining garbage you watch on cnn and other MSM sources. Leaders of a country reflect the population - your a case in point.
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A Russian disinformation site, run by the Kremlin, is a more accurate source of information on the war in Ukraine than the US's MSM? Ok, if you say so.
Wow. Thank you Donald Trump.
You forget to mention a third type. Americans who think the Kremlin is looking out for their best interest.
I'll take that as a compliment, better than being compared to old senile joe - which you seem to be making a very good imitation of every time you post your dumbass responses.
SF btw, is not run by the russian gov. Its an independent site run by volunteer journalists and funded by donations. alot of the journalists happen to have a pro russian stance, and so what? They provide detailed maps of what's going on. the maps and troop movement show no partiality. Its much better than any vague crap from the MSM. CNN is a mouthpiece of the Clintons, Obama and democratic party - they tell cnn how and what to present. And the MSM is clearly in the pocket of the MIC. There isn't a US military adventure they haven't supported.
I'm tired of this.
Look you bleep bleeping bleep bleep.
"Russian Intelligence Services, namely the Federal Security Service (FSB), the Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU), and the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR), play critical roles in propagating Russian disinformation online.
The FSB directly operates disinformation outlets. SouthFront is an online disinformation site registered in Russia that receives taskings from the FSB. It attempts to appeal to military enthusiasts, veterans, and conspiracy theorists, all while going to great lengths to hide its connections to Russian intelligence. In the aftermath of the 2020 U.S. presidential election, SouthFront sought to promote perceptions of voter fraud by publishing content alleging that such activity took place during the 2020 U.S. presidential election cycle."
https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0126
Lol, you blindly believe this crap in the midst of the Ukraine conflict? And i'm the commie because I don't blindly accept what my government tells me to think and i want to dig at the truth? And your trying to shout me down for it and you want everyone to believe what the Biden gov want everyone to think? Seems the real commie here is YOU, not the Russians, but YOU, you miserable sick old Biden liberal fuck, you obviously need to be told by the government how to think because you can't think for yourself, go fuck off already.
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...finable-10000/
Lol, complete waste of time and money. Imagine if they put same effort into protecting borders from illegal aliens as pronouns and reparations. Or hell even woman’s sports from competing against men. Worthless politicians.
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No disrespect, but how does that make you any different from him since you listen to sources that promote your own belief system? And yes.... that's just an assumption on my part."You need to be told by the government how to think, stupid lib!"
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