Steelers To Sign QB Mitch Trubisky To 2-Year Deal

[ThorndikeFFA]

Well, the die is cast. It will play out for us all to see.

That said, Mitch was most effective in Chicago when he had healthy Allen Robinson, Jimmy Graham to throw the ball up to, along with an effective David Montgomery at RB. He'll have the RB and the TE, but we don't have anything like a healthy Allen Robinson on the roster. We had better pick a #1 WR at 20 now.

The biggestest, most important question though: can he get us to nine wins and preserve Shades' magical run of barely winning seasons? Stay tuned!

[Orion]

I would rather, as I have stated almost infinity times, roll the dice on RudolpHaskins. Collectively likely cost less cap than Trubisky.

Those Bears teams for 2/3 years he was there had the best defense in the league. By like a solid margin. People keep acting like those were these talentless teams he steered into oblivion. This was a team that had legitimate championship aspirations in either 2019 or 2020 (I don't remember which one) and then Trubisky ended up benched for Chase Daniels or Nick Foles or whoever.

Trubisky is the first (potential) step on the path to QB purgatory where you hang out in the "Jeff Fisher" zone for ever and ever while never being bad enough to rebuild and never being good enough to actually win playoff games.

I would FAR FAR FAR rather limp through a lost season of RudolpHaskins, win 6 games or less (assuming the dire predictions are correct) and be in position to draft an actual competitive QB.

That plan puts the Steelers back into the upper tier of the AFC by 2024 (second full season of the new fancy QB) at the latest. The "Trubisky" plan has the potential to kick off a multi-year odyssey of failure.

that plan should have went in to effect following the 2020 season. Ben should have been let go along with JuJu and ebron , and mason given his shot to sink or swim last season. the cap would have been squared up and they could have been big players in free agency this year.

[DesertSteel]

I would rather, as I have stated almost infinity times, roll the dice on RudolpHaskins. Collectively likely cost less cap than Trubisky.

Those Bears teams for 2/3 years he was there had the best defense in the league. By like a solid margin. People keep acting like those were these talentless teams he steered into oblivion. This was a team that had legitimate championship aspirations in either 2019 or 2020 (I don't remember which one) and then Trubisky ended up benched for Chase Daniels or Nick Foles or whoever.

Trubisky is the first (potential) step on the path to QB purgatory where you hang out in the "Jeff Fisher" zone for ever and ever while never being bad enough to rebuild and never being good enough to actually win playoff games.

I would FAR FAR FAR rather limp through a lost season of RudolpHaskins, win 6 games or less (assuming the dire predictions are correct) and be in position to draft an actual competitive QB.

That plan puts the Steelers back into the upper tier of the AFC by 2024 (second full season of the new fancy QB) at the latest. The "Trubisky" plan has the potential to kick off a multi-year odyssey of failure.

You plan to stick with the QB room as is with Rudolph and Haskins as 1 & 2 says all there is to know. So basically, you would be bitching about any QB move. If we signed Wilson we gave up too much. If we sign a mid-tier, we enter QB purgatory. No way out except roll with Mason Rudolph and Haskins.

Have fun following along this season lol.

[Mojouw]

that plan should have went in to effect following the 2020 season. Ben should have been let go along with JuJu and ebron , and mason given his shot to sink or swim last season. the cap would have been squared up and they could have been big players in free agency this year.

In a totally clinical sense, almost certainly.

But I can not think of many teams that have not let a franchise icon QB go out on their own terms.

[Mojouw]

You plan to stick with the QB room as is with Rudolph and Haskins as 1 & 2 says all there is to know. So basically, you would be bitching about any QB move. If we signed Wilson we gave up too much. If we sign a mid-tier, we enter QB purgatory. No way out except roll with Mason Rudolph and Haskins.

Have fun following along this season lol.

Sure, maybe I am being a Cassandra here. But this type of move has historically produced two outcomes with ONE guy in recent memory being a third path:

1. Franchises wandering through the QB wilderness for multiple years. One extreme is that after a series of disappointing and desperate years, everyone gets fired. The other extreme is that it only lasts for a season or two and then someone finally pulls the trigger on an all in move on a highly regarded draft QB.
2. The VET FA is benched for either a rookie or some other rostered QB by the bye week of their inaugural season and everyone is like "well that was cap space well spent".
3. You have hit the Ryan Tannehill career resurgence reset lottery. Your team will now contend for a wild card or division spot every year. Flirt with CCG appearances and potential victories but ultimately suffer heartbreaking losses.

OR....look to the Chargers, Ravens, Bengals, Bills, and other teams with excellent young QBs and realize the shortest path between "not having a good enough QB" and "Wow. This QB is really good!" is a top end draft pick.

[Edman]

https://youtu.be/DupiP0wRNqM

https://youtu.be/Qk5iEl7TQjQ

These are far too much fun!!!

One of the comments aged perfectly in the second video.

"I can't believe that there's actually Steelers fans that want this dude."

High balls that sail. Statue in the pocket. Nothing there that Mason Rudolph doesn't already do. I dunno, that doesn't look like an upgrade.

[Mojouw]

One of the comments aged perfectly in the second video.

"I can't believe that there's actually Steelers fans that want this dude."

Like I said. Nothing there that Mason Rudolph doesn't already do. Colbert really blew this one.

Even if Trubisky ends up being better than Rudolph or better than say Kenny Pickett in 2022, it is a really disappointing move to me. It demonstrates that the current Steelers brain trust is not learning the lessons of recent roster construction/rebuild success stories and is leaning on their past experience of "never rebuilding but just reloading".

Colbert, at least right now, appears to be thinking that Trubisky can emerge as Tommy Maddox 2.0 and he can put together a playoff caliber team around Trubisky and send the team out into the world to compete and open up a "window" around this defensive group and some young offensive skill guys.

That flies in the face of every single example from the last 5-10 years of successful playoff teams. I mean look at the playoffs from just this past season...anyone want to show up in the Divisional Round with Trubisky against "Insert AFC Star QB Here"?

Best case scenario, Trubisky is some new-fangled Jimmy G. So the Steelers make a "run" and fall short. Then realize they need to sell the farm to go get a high end QB. Then they need to get that high end QB up to speed. So how many years of prime TJ Watt, Minkah Fitzpatrick, Heyward, Harris, Friermuth, and others would everyone like the Steelers to waste on doomed efforts led by inferior QB before they do what literally every other franchise has realize they need to do and go all in to get an elite QB? Two? Three? Four?

If they draft a QB in 2023...then fine. I will live with this nonsense for a season.

[DesertSteel]

Sure, maybe I am being a Cassandra here. But this type of move has historically produced two outcomes with ONE guy in recent memory being a third path:

1. Franchises wandering through the QB wilderness for multiple years. One extreme is that after a series of disappointing and desperate years, everyone gets fired. The other extreme is that it only lasts for a season or two and then someone finally pulls the trigger on an all in move on a highly regarded draft QB.
2. The VET FA is benched for either a rookie or some other rostered QB by the bye week of their inaugural season and everyone is like "well that was cap space well spent".
3. You have hit the Ryan Tannehill career resurgence reset lottery. Your team will now contend for a wild card or division spot every year. Flirt with CCG appearances and potential victories but ultimately suffer heartbreaking losses.

OR....look to the Chargers, Ravens, Bengals, Bills, and other teams with excellent young QBs and realize the shortest path between "not having a good enough QB" and "Wow. This QB is really good!" is a top end draft pick.

And what first-round picks did they give up to acquire Trubisky? Or are you just suggesting tanking?

[Mojouw]

And what first-round picks did they give up to acquire Trubisky? Or are you just suggesting tanking?

Picking between 20 and 25 every year for the next 3 isn't going to get you an elite QB prospect.

Everyone says they don't want to lose and they want to watch a team compete for a SB again.

Hitching your wagon to Trubisky isn't a step towards either of those.

[Dwinsgames]

well looking for that silver lining that almost every situation has if you seek it ....

if He is as good as some think he could be we are playoff bound and perhaps a deep run for a change ....

if he sucks as bad as a few think he does then we should be in good shape come 2023 draft for nabbing a top 10 QB .....

either way this move is excellent IMO provided the cost isnt to much financially

[Mojouw]

well looking for that silver lining that almost every situation has if you seek it ....

if He is as good as some think he could be we are playoff bound and perhaps a deep run for a change ....

if he sucks as bad as a few think he does then we should be in good shape come 2023 draft for nabbing a top 10 QB .....

either way this move is excellent IMO provided the cost isnt to much financially

Internet is rife with speculation that is is $13-16 million per year! If that is the case....I would far rather have signed JC Jackson. Now...no clue if Jackson would have even signed with the Steelers...but c'mon.

[DesertSteel]

Picking between 20 and 25 every year for the next 3 isn't going to get you an elite QB prospect.

Everyone says they don't want to lose and they want to watch a team compete for a SB again.

Hitching your wagon to Trubisky isn't a step towards either of those.

So tanking without coming out and saying it. You picked the wrong team to follow, that's the Browns and Bengals MO. I'm pretty sure that the best QB in the league was taken by a team that had an original draft order in the mid 20's. And your Ravens' QB was taken at 30.

[Orion]

some people are acting like signing trubisky to a 2 year deal some how means they still wont draft a QB if the opportunity presents itself. its not like it is a 4 or 5 year deal paying him 30+ million a year like other teams shackled themselves to with mid tier QB's.

[Fire Goodell]

Not his #1 biggest fan, but he could be serviceable enough to use the draft to shore up the OL and DL positions

[DesertSteel]

well looking for that silver lining that almost every situation has if you seek it ....

if He is as good as some think he could be we are playoff bound and perhaps a deep run for a change ....

if he sucks as bad as a few think he does then we should be in good shape come 2023 draft for nabbing a top 10 QB .....

either way this move is excellent IMO provided the cost isnt to much financially

Exactly, if he sucks as bad as mojo says ("least accurate passer in the NFL - can't win many games") then that top 10 pick is assured.

[Fire Goodell]

Exactly, if he sucks as bad as mojo says ("least accurate passer in the NFL - can't win many games") then that top 10 pick is assured.

There's no way we're getting a top 10 pick while Heyward and Watt are on the team. The defense has enough playmakers to avoid a 6-12 or worse season

[DesertSteel]

some people are acting like signing trubisky to a 2 year deal some how means they still wont draft a QB if the opportunity presents itself. its not like it is a 4 or 5 year deal paying him 30+ million a year like other teams shackled themselves to with mid tier QB's.

What it does is the same thing Colbert always does in FA. He signed a QB that's good enough to where he won't have to reach for need if the one or two guys he wants isn't there. Perfect wisdom.

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There's no way we're getting a top 10 pick while Heyward and Watt are on the team. The defense has enough playmakers to avoid a 6-12 or worse season

Then cut them all so we can get into the top 5-10!!!

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well looking for that silver lining that almost every situation has if you seek it ....

if He is as good as some think he could be we are playoff bound and perhaps a deep run for a change ....

if he sucks as bad as a few think he does then we should be in good shape come 2023 draft for nabbing a top 10 QB .....

either way this move is excellent IMO provided the cost isnt to much financially

Are you still hoping for Howell at 20?

[Mojouw]

So tanking without coming out and saying it. You picked the wrong team to follow, that's the Browns and Bengals MO. I'm pretty sure that the best QB in the league was taken by a team that had an original draft order in the mid 20's. And your Ravens' QB was taken at 30.

Sure. Whatever. Dinking around with Trubisky for a contract year or two - solid idea. Has a lot of great points to recommend it.

Time is the most valuable resource in the NFL. Players get less talented due to age. Others get more expensive due to performance. Injuries happen. Lots of things.
Without a high-end QB, you are not playing the same sport as the teams that do have one.
Wasting time in your pursuit of a high end QB is just pointless.

The ONLY way this looks good is if, as you point out, the Steelers are able to make a Chiefs trade up and get a Mahomes type prospect in 2023.

The two other outcomes with many many previous examples are it is 2-3 years from now and the team is cap-strapped and terrible or it is 2-3 years from now the team is cap-strapped and unable to chart a path to the necessary QB improvement to be an actual contender and not a playoff also ran.

[DesertSteel]

Lots of options available.

Teams that tank:
Jets
Jags
Browns
Bengals
Lions

[Fire Goodell]

Are you still hoping for Howell at 20?

I don't think he makes it to 20, but if he does, definitely. Trubisky was brought on to be a bridge IMO, if they have a QB they like when it's their turn to pick, he's the guy

[86WARD]

For whoever was asking for the avatar…

[Born2Steel]

Woohoo! Kordell 2.0

[Mojouw]

I am an extreme pessimist by nature when it comes to the Steelers and NFL outcomes. My expectation is anything and everything that can go wrong will.

I realize that others have reasons and perspectives that make them positive about the news of the Trubisky signing.

I just can not be hopeful rooting for a team that seems to be starting down the road that many many teams have mapped before them. All of them have ended up pressing the reset button on the journey. Most have attempted it with QBs with far superior NFL game film than Trubisky.

To me, this reads as the first step on a path that wastes the primes of Watt, Fitzpatrick, Harris, and Friermuth as they are shackled to an increasingly poor set of QB maneuvers.

And, to be fair, while it reads like that today...it could look totally different after the Draft in either 2022 or 2023. I just have very little optimism that it will.

The biggest fear is that the team starts trading away assets to get Trubisky the "missing piece" that "builds around him". Makes me angry just thinking about reading that story from the new GM in 12 months time.

I will try and shut the hell up about it and let this play out a bit. It is not like I am not wrong all the time.

[RunNGun]

that plan should have went in to effect following the 2020 season. Ben should have been let go along with JuJu and ebron , and mason given his shot to sink or swim last season. the cap would have been squared up and they could have been big players in free agency this year.

Funny you mention this...I started a thread about this in 2020 and got blasted for it.

[Rotorhead]

I am an extreme pessimist by nature when it comes to the Steelers and NFL outcomes. My expectation is anything and everything that can go wrong will.

I realize that others have reasons and perspectives that make them positive about the news of the Trubisky signing.

I just can not be hopeful rooting for a team that seems to be starting down the road that many many teams have mapped before them. All of them have ended up pressing the reset button on the journey. Most have attempted it with QBs with far superior NFL game film than Trubisky.

To me, this reads as the first step on a path that wastes the primes of Watt, Fitzpatrick, Harris, and Friermuth as they are shackled to an increasingly poor set of QB maneuvers.

And, to be fair, while it reads like that today...it could look totally different after the Draft in either 2022 or 2023. I just have very little optimism that it will.

The biggest fear is that the team starts trading away assets to get Trubisky the "missing piece" that "builds around him". Makes me angry just thinking about reading that story from the new GM in 12 months time.

I will try and shut the hell up about it and let this play out a bit. It is not like I am not wrong all the time.

Well, who was the QB that was going to fix it? My hope is we draft OL, DL and pick up a FA ILB, CB and OL and we draft our next great QB next year. That will make the Trubisky thing fine.

[Dwinsgames]

What it does is the same thing Colbert always does in FA. He signed a QB that's good enough to where he won't have to reach for need if the one or two guys he wants isn't there. Perfect wisdom.

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Then cut them all so we can get into the top 5-10!!!

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Are you still hoping for Howell at 20?

I would be yes

[Steelerette]

If Mitchell has anything short of a renaissance season, trade up next year for Jurkovec. This year's QB class isn't good. So this year lay the foundation of shoring up the interior O-line and DB corps. I'm perfectly content with this move.

[steelcityboyz]

Let the negativity rain down!!

LOL for real. They could have signed Brady and some still would bitch about it. Mitch hasn't played a down yet, but we all know he's hot garbage.

[DesertSteel]

To be clear and on the record, my endorsement for Trubisky is for 2022 only. Beyond that is TBD. He is better than Rudolph and at the least a bridge if a QB is drafted. If Trubisky proves more than that, I’ll be thrilled. The opportunity is his to do so. My guess is the Steelers have the same strategy with this signing.

[tube517]