Originally Posted by Mojouw
no doubt I wouldn't permit that because we do not know what happened ( and likely never will ) , but then again I wouldn't permit her to be a door to door massage girl either so there is that ....
yes civil court but there is nothing civil about court so I prefer to call it $$$ court because that is what it's all about anyways ....
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ct-allegations
He's a free man, but could still face suspension.
I dunno. I have a hard time judging folks for enacting the only recourse they have as individual citizens. You can’t force the state to bring a criminal case. But you can force a jury to hear a civil complaint.
And just make the job a quote for installing tile or taking photos of Watson for his social media account. No need to limit the hypothetical. I think AB assaulted a personal chef.
Maybe Watson isn’t a criminal but he sure seems like a creep and potentially shady dude.
But so was Ben. Maybe Watson can get married and have a couple of kids…
see thats the problem ... 20 something cases all looking for $$$$$$ and just 2 went to the Police to file a complaint that resource was available to ALL of them yet only 2 went that route ... so yeah I can find fault because if he actually did this shit I would want him put away so he couldn't do it to anyone else ... they instead went for the cash
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
I’m too lazy to link it but ESPN has it that there are at least 8 women suing also have opened cases with the po po.
At this point it likely doesn’t matter.
But Watson is almost certainly guilty of naughty wiener stuff. And his fame and cash will shield him from some of the consequences just as every other famous naught wiener dude.
You think it’s more than that or you think his value went way down? He’s a 26 year old QB with no issues any longer.
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I'm guessing Seattle might be working their calculators right about now...
Seattle are rebuilding. I doubt Watson has interest.
Last edited by BlackAndGold; 03-11-2022 at 07:07 PM.
They can't rebuild around a 25 YO pro bowl QB?
I mean yeah they could but it doesn't make much sense to me that they would trade a top tier QB in Wilson just to flip those assets for a QB that is a notch below, albeit younger. Maybe I'm wrong.
I still doubt Watson has interest.
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No issues in your world.
Look, I have a daughter, and I would never want her to work in a massage parlor but if she chose to work in a place where this shit happens every day I wouldn't suddenly act like it was a shock. Look up any major city and you will see it happens constantly. Heck look at the Patriots owner. I have a buddy that works at a big law firm in Philly and their building backed up a an Asian "Rub & a Tug" joint. He said every few years the Philly cops would raid the place and customers would pour out of all the windows sometimes in just towels. I don't know enough of the Watson story to say if these girls worked in places like this or not but guys pay for this shit all the time. I read in one of stories the two of the girls charging him got offended when the NFL investigator asked them what they were wearing during the massages and they acted like that wasn't relevant. Of course it is. Do I think Watson was wrong, probably, but I don't know the whole story. Just like the first girl that claimed Ben raped her when the whole story came out we discovered she went out to dinner with Ben the next night so who know what the truth is when a lot of money is involved. One thing I will say is Watson was a moron. Just pay a high price escort if you need it that bad. Do I want him on the Steelers? Probably not because of all of this shit, but again until we see all the facts who knows.
I mean the NFL and “real world” are two totally different things if you haven’t noticed.
I honestly don’t care and am not trying to criticize anyone. That being said, many of the responses right in this thread contain the reasons that most of these women didn’t initially come forward and why some prefer civil court to criminal cases.
Multiple posters (and the cops) just assumed that these women were *ahem* working *ahem*. For instance, in my town there’s one known rub and tug joint and like 10-20 times as many commercial massage businesses. So why assume these women are in the minority rather than the majority of commercial massage?
Why ask what they were wearing if you’re the cops? Even if they were in scandalous interstate adult store lingerie, doesn’t make it legal for Watson to do naughty wiener stuff.
Is it possible that each of these women was providing something other than massage services? Absolutely. But the assumption that they were and the implications from the police that they somehow asked to be assaulted is why guys like Watson have and will continue to get away with it.
I certainly don’t want him getting massage by my daughter, my wife no problem. But I have zero problem having him QB the Steelers. Everyone has a “dirty” side to them to some extent. I bet the first gal who gave him massage offered extras and he was addicted. He then tried with the legitimate masseuse’s and was denied. Where there’s smoke there is fire. I would bet my life he acted inappropriately, I would bet Ben did too 20 years ago. Only a few Saints in the league, and they aren’t in New Orleans .
I am on the only one that believe that Steelers will be starting Mason and kicking the tires on Dwayne Haskins?
Its not like the Steelers to break the bank or draft capital for a player.
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That doesn't mean I want a creep for the face of the franchise.
I prefer that unless they got one of the big three (Wilson, Watson, Rodgers). Is anyone else going to make enough difference to matter? I don’t think so and none of the rookie prospect QBs really do it for me. I’m fine suffering through Rudolph and Haskins and improving other parts of the team.
News flash: about 75% of the league are creeps. They just haven’t been exposed yet. Rather just have the talented creeps then the average creeps.
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An elite QB is the ultimate goal of course. Every team is looking for their guy and the ones that have their guy are trying to keep him happy and healthy. The Steelers need to continue making their defense elite and building the OL while they search for the NEXT QB. They will not 'sell the farm' for 1 prized bull. That is not how they have ever done things.
Deshaun Watson is a worthwhile candidate to speculate on due to his athletic ability, but the price tag seems too high and the baggage too dirty to me. There are men in that locker room that have opinions that must be considered as well. Not saying any of them are Boy Scouts but there is a chemistry element to this game as well. Before I would pass any judgement or make this big of a decision, I would let the entire story reach it's conclusion first. The truth will come out and take away all of the guessing and 2nd guessing.
I think you are the only one. Mason Rudolph is not good. The tape doesnt lie.
there’s a difference when the creep is exposed and he’s embroiled in a lawsuit and it’s all over the media.
Jerome Bettis was also accused ..............
the thing is NO criminal wrong doing was found .......
so now we are at the point that if someone says you did something wrong then guess what it doesn't matter if found no wrong doing happened by a grand jury you are still a guilty slime ball .......
I am in no way saying he didnt do something but I am saying I am sick to death of the narrative that being accused is as good as guilty ..........
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
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No they're not.
Is it though? Would you rather have the creep that’s been exposed and found innocent or the creep that you have no idea what they are up to?
Keep thinking that.
obviously if he’s found innocent that’s preferable but is he? Or do they just pay off the accusers in order to drop the charges? Didn’t Watson have 22 women accusing him? Or am I getting it mixed up
I am too, the media is the judge and jury these days. They don’t just report the facts. They’re trying to change people’s sentiments toward many issues. they dont want us thinking for ourselves - I really believe that. It is what it is, though, it is totally unfair the way people’s reputations are ruined.
It’s 22 but how many have actually filed a police report and if it was serious, there would be criminal charges against him. Anything criminal was waived. Of course there will be civil suits but the easiest way to get rid of those and wipe the slate is to throw money at them whether he is innocent or not. At some point, the money to throw at the accuser to have them go away is less then the legal fees. To answer your question though, I think something like 8 have gone to the police?
I mean look at Jerry Jones…he’s allegedly paid a woman close to $400,000 over the last 25 years to keep quiet about a love child. You don’t think that stuff is going on all over? All these athletes think they are entitled and above the law. “It can’t happen to them…”
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