canceling the keystone pipeline , suspending gas exploration permits so we can buy billions worth of russian oil to fund russia's war machine was a brilliant move by Obiden. that idiot Trump would have never thought of doing that brilliant strategic move.
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No idea what Orion is posting but it's probably brainless memes and nothing to add to the discussion
now that there is funny. apparently you dont know anything about the history of Ukraine. the Ukraine had a "democratic" elected government , before Soros/Obama installed this comedian puppet. just like Iran did before they installed the Shah . our government didnt like the "pro russian" government that was there previously. the previous government accepted a "bailout" from russia after the western countries ignored his request for financial aid in 2013.
Why Did America Overthrow a Democratically Elected Government in Ukraine?
United States and the European Union supported the overthrowing of a democratically elected government in Ukraine in February 2014. In particular, the U.S.A. conducted all the planning regarding this overthrowing. U.S politicians facilitated most of the funding in the Ukrainian protests. Moreover, the U.S state department handpicked and installed new politicians in the country at the expense of what democracy or political stability. The involvement of U.S in overthrowing of a democratically elected government could be explained in a realistic perspective of international relations. This owes to the fact that much of the concern in this involvement was focused on serving the interests of U.S (Kennan, 2014, p.7). This aspect can be seen in U.S disregard of the destruction and the many deaths that occurred during the civil conflict in Ukraine.
Upon the overthrowing of Ukrainian government, there was much celebration in U.S media and political circles. Majority of people in U.S hailed these as a putsch while ignoring the fact that the neo-nazi militias instigated the instability.
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The enmity between U.S and the administration of President Yanukovych Victor stemmed from the close ties of Yanukovych with Russia, which was an ardent enemy of U.S. Russia, had rubbed the U.S neocons the wrong way.
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if george soros is trying to sway your opinion on something, the righteous thing will be the opposite of what he says. that fucker is pure evil. soros is a Hungarian jew yet banned from Hungary and Israel...ask yourself why.
countries that have taken steps to expel and ban Soros, his operatives, and his Open Society. In chronological order, the six countries are:
- Pakistan
- Poland
- Turkey
- Russia
- Hungary
- Philippines
While not outright banning him, the Israeli government has said Soros is not welcome there.
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Just wait till pedo joe starts buying oil from iran.canceling the keystone pipeline , suspending gas exploration permits so we can buy billions worth of russian oil to fund russia's war machine was a brilliant move by Obiden. that idiot Trump would have never thought of doing that brilliant strategic move.
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Might as well have put a hit out on himself. I got to admit he has balls, but he might want to hire a homeless guy to start his car for him for the foreseeable future.
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My first guess would have been it's a marketing ploy to make people realize the Simpsons still exist.
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You stupid mother fucker.
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Astoundingly ignorant post.
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The Ukraine veriant...lol.
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Probably a dumb and silly question but........2022, why is this invasion ground troops and tanks? Russia could invade the Ukraine through the air and with pin-point missile strikes to decapitate the government and shut off all power and basically blockade against any help. All without stepping actual boots on Ukraine soil. Why the WW2 tactics?
Because Putin thought he could send a signal to the West and the other former Soviet states that Russian troops could rampage through their countries like crap through a goose without the aid of any high tech wizardry. Likely hoped that would instill enough fear to bring some of these former satellites back into Russian orbit.
Now...he's stuck. If they go to the tech wizardry way....then they admit their army sucks and was between by a group of folks that according to Putin's manifesto are not even a people and have no national pride.
My other theory is that modern airplanes are crazy expensive. Armored Personnel Carriers, Tanks, and Conscripts are (relatively) not expensive.
Is any of that world salad close to right? No idea...but it is all I got.
One other thing....there is some thinking out there that the Russians are just kind of inept and did not have confidence in their ability to coordinate air and ground units...so they kinda left the air force at home.
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And the air force they did bring is getting shot down.
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That's what we're accustomed to seeing with our own air force, but other countries don't have anywhere close to the same capabilities. From the sound of it, Russia has been trying to use their warplanes, and a good number of them are being shot down. Russia seems to have a big army, but not a very sophisticated one.
I don't think anyone except the United States has the ability to just send in the air force and immediately turn it into a one-sided rout without even taking any losses. That's one area where we really are leaps and bounds ahead of the rest of the world. We're used to seeing it, but everybody else has to fight it out like a normal battle.
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I think some places have the equipment and the doctrine to make a go of it, but have no opportunity to put it into practice and no experienced people.
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I thought Russia had a greater Airforce than Israel, and Israel was considered near US capability. Not arguing the point, I just don't get the tactic.
kinda like the big guy in a boxing match . no need to train , no need to have a plan , no strategy , just go it the ring and punch the little guy out in 1 hit . opps the little guy got skills .
we must never forget tell everyone you know New England cheated and might be back at it Edit 1-21-15 there back Edit #2__12-8-19 here we go again Edit #3__ 5-25-23 it never ends
This was an interesting video: No idea of the validity of any of it, but they do list why we should listen to them:https://youtu.be/_WGcfkqzUI4 -- starting about 7 minutes in there is some speculative answers provide
One of the sources listed in the details of the linked video, provides one person's take: https://rusi.org/explore-our-researc...sian-air-force
Another article: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ed-2022-03-01/
There is also an interesting discussion in the comments by US veterans talking about how modern jet fighters require lavish maintenance in support of each hour of flight time. Speculating that if the air crews are getting only half of the flight time of Western counterparts in training, then the ground crews may have zero experience keeping planes in the air.
If you're going to use Ukraine, for example as a port on the Mediterranean/Black Sea, you need boots on the ground. If you want to set up a puppet government you need boots on the ground. If you're going to take a nuclear power plant you have to do it with ground troops, not from the air.
The real problem that is manifesting out of the war in Ukraine is:
https://nypost.com/2022/03/02/former...r-no-fly-zone/
Former NATO commander Wesley Clark explains Ukraine war
Q: Would Putin use a nuclear weapon?
A: If he was losing, I think he might. And if we think there’s a chance a guy would use a nuclear weapon against us, I guess we just need to give up on the concept of extended deterrence. Why would we want to defend Estonia if Putin might want to use a nuclear weapon? Is Estonia worth it? You say it’s NATO, but the cold, hard reality is Putin can move into Estonia and take control before we can make up our mind what to do. Or Taiwan — what if China says, “You come into Taiwan again, we’re going to use a nuclear weapon.” The Chinese have a lot of people, they have a lot of nuclear weapons. What if North Korea says, “You hold another exercise, we’re going to use a nuclear weapon.” Say [to North Korea] “Oh, we’re going to obliterate you.” “No, you’re not going to obliterate us, we can attack the United States — now.” What if Iran says it? That’s the answer to it. It was easy to be the world’s hyperpower when we were going against Libya, Iraq and Syria. The United States has to recalibrate its understanding, leadership and processes to work in this new area or we will lose the rules-based international system, which we’re proud to have established after World War II and which we established by using the concept of extended deterrence.
Q: The ultimate question is: Does the West stand by and watch innocent people slaughtered?
A: I think that’s the conundrum that the administration is facing. What can we do without provoking a red line? And the answer to that is: It doesn’t just depend on us. It depends on Putin. I’d say it’s more than a little unpredictable.
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