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    Re: Art Rooney II said today GM Kevin Colbert will step down after the 2022 draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I thought about it more last night and instead of making my way through it out loud via postings here...I kinda reached that same scenario in my head.

    That makes total sense to me. Trying to make the above work but with an outside candidate instead of Hunt still seems odd to me. But...I am sure that the ownership and whoever else is more than capable of handling the logistics of a hiring. Don't know why this struck me as so goofy yesterday. But it did.
    The Steelers and Ravens are eerily similar from head-to-toe.

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    Re: Art Rooney II said today GM Kevin Colbert will step down after the 2022 draft

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    The Steelers and Ravens are eerily similar from head-to-toe.
    Except one HC looks cool and the other looks like a whiney cry baby.

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    Re: Art Rooney II said today GM Kevin Colbert will step down after the 2022 draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Except one HC looks cool and the other looks like a whiney cry baby.


    And, we can draft WRs, but not CBs… while the Ravens are exact opposite.

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    Re: Art Rooney II said today GM Kevin Colbert will step down after the 2022 draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I agree with everything being said.

    Must have just been a me thing on how I interpreted the wording of Pryor's tweet. She made it sound like they were NOT planning on doing any actual hiring until after the draft...but Steelreserve and others make good points about a "transition" period and so you could just wait to make the title official but still have the person on staff or whatever.

    Like I said, it is probably a "me" thing but the initial reports I read about this just made zero sense to me. Like why wait? But I think I woke up extra special today.
    I think the main reason most of us are interpreting it the way we are is not because your main point was wrong, it’s because you are exactly right: it would be weird to hire someone from the outside only after the draft when Colbert officially steps down.

    So I guess I chose to interpret it with the base assumption that the Steelers wouldn’t actually do something that made little sense.

    If I had to guess, they’ll probably promote from within to ensure the most seamless transition. But if they do hire an outside guy, I think it would only make sense for them to hire someone now to work hand in hand with Colbert until he leaves. For the specific reasons you pointed out.

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    Re: Art Rooney II said today GM Kevin Colbert will step down after the 2022 draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    I like the idea of Brandon Hunt as the new GM. I like the idea of Omar Khan as the new GM. Both are about 40-45-ish. Both have been very effective in their roles with the Steelers. New is not always better.
    Agree, but I think I'd rather have a GM that's strong in player evaluation than one whose strength is cap numbers. I think the latter is a secondary role that can be filled easier.

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    Re: Art Rooney II said today GM Kevin Colbert will step down after the 2022 draft

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    Agree, but I think I'd rather have a GM that's strong in player evaluation than one whose strength is cap numbers. I think the latter is a secondary role that can be filled easier.
    I think both work just as well. It's not like they're sitting in a room trying to figure all of it out by themselves. A guy that is strong in player eval will have more than 1 bean counter in his office pool. He will also not be the only evaluator in that office pool. I think Colbert is/was a pretty darn good evaluator but he keeps a guy like Brandon Hunt nearby. I also think he has a knack for cap numbers but he still has Omar Khan on speed dial. It's a team effort. Just have to decide who is the better GM.

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    Re: Art Rooney II said today GM Kevin Colbert will step down after the 2022 draft

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post


    And, we can draft WRs, but not CBs… while the Ravens are exact opposite.
    and the rats dont neglect their oline.

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    Re: Art Rooney II said today GM Kevin Colbert will step down after the 2022 draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    and the rats dont neglect their oline.
    Neither do the Steelers.


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    Re: Art Rooney II said today GM Kevin Colbert will step down after the 2022 draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    I think both work just as well. It's not like they're sitting in a room trying to figure all of it out by themselves. A guy that is strong in player eval will have more than 1 bean counter in his office pool. He will also not be the only evaluator in that office pool. I think Colbert is/was a pretty darn good evaluator but he keeps a guy like Brandon Hunt nearby. I also think he has a knack for cap numbers but he still has Omar Khan on speed dial. It's a team effort. Just have to decide who is the better GM.
    Sure it's a team effort, but it still comes down to the guy with the title. They don't vote on their draft picks and FA signings. I'd rather have the decision maker be a great talent evaluator.

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    Re: Art Rooney II said today GM Kevin Colbert will step down after the 2022 draft

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    Neither do the Steelers.
    Nope but they made a gamble this year and lost.

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    Re: Art Rooney II said today GM Kevin Colbert will step down after the 2022 draft

    Quote Originally Posted by NCSteeler View Post
    Nope but they made a gamble this year and lost.

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    They always address the o-line. They just don’t always do it early in the draft.


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    Re: Art Rooney II said today GM Kevin Colbert will step down after the 2022 draft

    For anyone that has a subscription.

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    Re: Art Rooney II said today GM Kevin Colbert will step down after the 2022 draft

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    For anyone that has a subscription.
    It is a very long way of saying that Steelers may return to how they were run at the beginning of the Colbert era and during most of the prior one(s) as well.

    Hunt would be "director of football operations" and Khan stays in the same title (vice president of football and business administration) with additional unspecified responsibilities. Both reporting to ownership.

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    Re: Art Rooney II said today GM Kevin Colbert will step down after the 2022 draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    It is a very long way of saying that Steelers may return to how they were run at the beginning of the Colbert era and during most of the prior one(s) as well.

    Hunt would be "director of football operations" and Khan stays in the same title (vice president of football and business administration) with additional unspecified responsibilities. Both reporting to ownership.

    nothing wrong with that as long as they both excel in their jobs
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar

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    Re: Art Rooney II said today GM Kevin Colbert will step down after the 2022 draft

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    nothing wrong with that as long as they both excel in their jobs
    And we win Super Bowls!!

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