If they wait to hire until after the draft....they aren't getting anyone all that qualified from the outside.
No one is going to want to roll the dice that they get the job and then not have a chair when the music stops.
Either hire now, or don't. Sounds like they are over-thinking this one already.
or that Rooney already knows who he is going to hire.Originally Posted by Mojouw
Yeah...that is kinda what I mean. Just announce your hire and be done with it.
Because Colbert is still the GM until the draft!
I cant keep track of it. Are we hating on the Steelers for not looking outside the organization to hire, or are we hating on them for looking outside the organization??
Is there some kind of day-month-date algorithm to explain when they are actually doing the right thing is peoples opinions? Is it related to phases of the moon, ocean currents, astronomy or something?
I do not care whether they hire from outside or inside or from another dimension.
It seems like an odd choice to try and hire someone (from wherever they are from) after the 22 draft. Wouldn't all the likely candidates have jobs by then? It seems that right now is when the annual game of musical front office chairs is taking place. Either get in or get out...but I haven't really thought about it...
They are conducting a search right now. There is no reason that they could not announce their new GM next week, or they could privately advise everybody in the process in a couple weeks. Maybe there are some internal candidates in the teams that are still in the playoffs who are on the list of candidates.
It just seems like there is a whole lot of whining about hiring from within on this board and now comments in this thread are advocating to just lock in Khan or Hunt ASAP. Its fu*king hilarious!
[QUOTE=Mojouw;793524]I do not care whether they hire from outside or inside or from another dimension.
It seems like an odd choice to try and hire someone (from wherever they are from) after the 22 draft. Wouldn't all the likely candidates have jobs by then? It seems that right now is when the annual game of musical front office chairs is taking place. Either get in or get out...but I haven't really thought about it...[/
I infer Mr. Rooney’s statement to mean they are not waiting at all. They are looking at candidates now and will absolutely hire someone to work alongside Colbert until he retires.
Obviously if they commit to someone within the organization there’s no need to do much of anything, but if they go to an outside guy I’m sure he’ll be brought in well before FA starts to begin working alongside Colbert.
Ok. Maybe I just can't read so good today...but the tweet posted to this thread stated that they are gonna start talking to some people now, but are NOT hiring until after the draft.
I guess I made a leap that this meant they wouldn't be deciding for some time and that most candidates wouldn't want to wait around that long if they get a firm offer now from another team.
But again...I'm not always the best at reading good. So maybe it means something else?
My limited thinking is that if a team announced they were not going to hire an OC until after minicamp while everyone else was hiring OC's now...wouldn't that seem weird?
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I see where Brook Pryor says that but not that Rooney said that.
I guess we’re all just speculating based on our own interpretation. And as Born2Steel pointed out, Rooney himself didn’t say explicitly that they would wait to make the hire.
But even so, I have to imagine that they’d at least make a handshake deal with someone soon even if he didn’t officially have the job until later.
I concede that this is just my assessment of the situation because it makes the most sense. I don’t think Colbert would mind at all working hand in hand with the next guy before he leaves in order to facilitate the most seamless transition. Especially if he intends to stay on in some kind of consulting role for 2022. I don’t think there will be any ego issues from Colbert. He’ll want to do whatever is best for the team. He might even have a hand in selecting his replacement, whether that’s an internal guy or someone from the outside.
All too true. As was B2Steel's posting.
I just assumed (and we all know what happens there) that Pryor was paraphrasing but including specific details of what Rooney actually said and not inserting any editorial comments. I guess I could go track down the actual transcript of wherever it was that Rooney said all this...but that seems like work and I don't want to do it.
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I don't think that an accurate perspective. No one would be prepared to come in and run a draft that is this close to happening. I think it's perfectly normal to transition this way. That being said, it's 99% certain that they'll keep it in-house.
Not being a jerk...but I don't understand what you are getting at here. There are how many incoming GMs across the league that got hired this week and a few positions that are still open. Are you saying they will not be ready for the draft?
Plus...I don't think teams can even talk to candidates currently working for teams still in the playoffs...so until after the SB...isn't this head coach and GM hiring "season"?
I also agree that the job isn't likely to go to an outside candidate so not sure why I am even thinking about this.
I don't see what would stop the Steelers from hiring someone before the draft to be the new GM, even having them on staff ahead of the draft, with the understanding that their title becomes GM as soon as the draft is over. There is no need to wait until the old guy is actually retired; it's not like there are roster limits or salary caps on your coaching staff or front office.
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I agree with everything being said.
Must have just been a me thing on how I interpreted the wording of Pryor's tweet. She made it sound like they were NOT planning on doing any actual hiring until after the draft...but Steelreserve and others make good points about a "transition" period and so you could just wait to make the title official but still have the person on staff or whatever.
Like I said, it is probably a "me" thing but the initial reports I read about this just made zero sense to me. Like why wait? But I think I woke up extra special today.
Completely agree. The internal guys wouldn't want to turn down other offers and who wants to go into thier first season with someone elses draft
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Um Art is the one that said they wouldnt announce a hire till after the draft. Soni expect they wont do it next week.
Seems like a lousy way to get "the guy"
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Those GMs got fired. Retiring and being part of the transition process is entirely different. Would a team let a GM they’re going to fire for poor performance run their draft and then fire him?! Geez.
I’m saying that Colbert has been working on this draft for months and is best suited to run it. It’s not like they’re really going to go outside the organization anyway. And if they did, it wouldn’t matter. For the new GM, next year would be his first grade related to the draft. I really don’t see the big deal you’re making it out to be.
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There’s a difference between a first class front office having a succession plan and a failed coordinator having his inexperienced assistant take over.
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I think there is some Rooney Rule for GMs as well and even if the Steelers hire a minority candidate from within I think there is some obligation for them to interview others. Also I think they truly want Kevin Colbert to run this draft. Even if it is his last.
It's going to be Hunt
Not only that but why would a GM want to come in immediately following the team throwing a draft class in there that they had nothing to do with. It’s extremely stupid...this is why I think that the hire is already in house and will work hand in hand with Colbert to handle this draft and Colbert will be more or less a consultant in this situation.
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I like the idea of Brandon Hunt as the new GM. I like the idea of Omar Khan as the new GM. Both are about 40-45-ish. Both have been very effective in their roles with the Steelers. New is not always better.
People used to always be having him paged at the County fairMike's brother.
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles didn't value him either , now he is a Stain at the Mistake by the Lake 3 teams in 4 years more of a shooting star than a superstar
The Ravens did the exact same thing. Ozzie had a final draft, stepped down, and DeCosta took over the next day.
Simply insert Colbert and Hunt into the above scenario.
I thought about it more last night and instead of making my way through it out loud via postings here...I kinda reached that same scenario in my head.
That makes total sense to me. Trying to make the above work but with an outside candidate instead of Hunt still seems odd to me. But...I am sure that the ownership and whoever else is more than capable of handling the logistics of a hiring. Don't know why this struck me as so goofy yesterday. But it did.
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