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Slim pickings when it comes to actual UFAs.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-age...l/quarterback/
Rodgers or bust.
Have him bring Davante Adams as well and let Juju walk. Hire Eric Bieniemy to run our offense. We would be instant contenders for the next 2-3 years.
OK thanks, so I think that still puts a lot of current projections of Corral as a top 20 selection. Possibly one of the top 2 QB's, until after the combine and private workouts happen.Originally Posted by teegre
Yeah, I heard that is why they lost the Dukes Mayo Bowl, he was too busy stealing mayo for his "alternative lifestyle". Not that there is anything wrong with it.I dunno rumors of gay midget porn found on Howells laptop ... teams should shy away NOW ...
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Definitely pass on a guy that could only get his team to 6-7 and has other distractions, like Howell does.
If they start next season with Rudolph as quarterback, we are in huge trouble.
"Zeds dead baby, Zeds dead." - Butch
I’m sure that’s not a part of their plans, at least I really hope not even an option. I think as a backup he’s ok though
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I think Tomlin is very optimistic about Rudolph with Canada calling the plays. That’s the standard.
Lamar Jackson is one knee injury away from being a worse Mason Rudolph. Jackson loses any speed or mobility and he's straight backup journeyman material.
We've already had a first hand glimpse of what happens to a Quarterback whose main physical abilities decline. Ben's improved ability to read a defense couldn't save him from his declined ability that was his main calling card for so many years. As you surmised, Ben was not a student of the game, because he didn't really need to. He had raw talent that could get him out of jams and make up for his deficiencies. Ben held the ball forever and was greedy, always looking for the big shot instead of taking what was given him. It makes you wonder how much more complete Ben would be if he took his craft seriously back when he had his physical superpowers.
The sexy physical freak quarterback is amazing, but so very few hit that sweet spot. Justin Herbert doesn't have a howitzer, and he's getting along fine.
Not sure why this struck me so funny, but it did...I dunno rumors of gay midget porn found on Howells laptop ... teams should shy away NOW ...
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Well I was being a bit too black and white there, obviously all the QB options in the draft have some physical tools or they wouldn’t be QB at that level. None are a sure fire franchise QB so they all have their warts, so with that in mind, my pick is going to be the best you can get with more emphasis on intelligence over physical gifts with this group.
You might want to re-watch some Herbert highlights. Dude has a missile launcher for an arm. He drew Josh Allen comps leading up to the draft for his combination of elite arm strength and mobility in a large(r) frame.
If Herbert is your definition of not a "sexy physical freak quarterback" than we are not talking about the same thing(s). If what you are really against is a run first QB...then that is a different story. But the list of successful NFL QBs without jaw dropping physical tools is super-duper short.
I have to disagree on Herbert and his arm strength. I've watched a ton of Chargers games the last 2 years primarily because I have Justin Herbert as my keeper player on my fantasy football team, and he has a rocket arm...........along with extreme accuracy. He is elite.
There's also a lengthy list of busts with jaw dropping physical tools that couldn't play in the NFL. For every Josh Allen, there's a Jeff George or a Jamarcus Russell.
I'm only speaking from the perspective of Steelers history. The Steelers' legendary "desert of quarterbacks" between Bradshaw and Ben had their issues, but lack of talent and arm strength was not one of them. Mark Malone, Bubby Brister, and Kordell Stewart could bomb it with the best of them. Kordell was mobile, had a fast release and a howitzer. Did him little.
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Exactly my point, those failures weren’t due to their physical abilities, it was due to their lack of brain power
Josh Dobbs has all the brain power one could ever want in an NFL QB...and very few of the actual physical abilities.
The myth of the successful "cerebral" QB is just that...a myth. An over the top statement for sure...but I just don't see a lot of top half of the league guys that don't have at least one outstanding physical trait...usually several. Especially as the NFL has become a QB friendly and passing focused league. Maybe when you could hand the ball off to a workhorse RB 30-35 times a game and just not throw picks and win a ton of games the "cerebral QB" was possible. But now that the NFL looks like a dang Pac-12 game most weekends...nah uh.
I've seen him in a few mocks going as high as rd 2, but who knows at this point? He has nice size and can make all the throws. Doesn't offer a lot of mobility, but he isn't a statue. I'd prefer him no sooner than the 3rd round, but I also feel like if we don't get a QB in round 1 or 2 then getting one in rd 3 is likely a wasted pick.Good call.I mentioned him (somewhere) as a Day 3 / URFA priority.
Josh Dobbs has athletic ability. He can run and throw decently well. The problem with Dobbs is that his accuracy is poor.
Josh Allen was well on his way to bust city because for all of his physical attributes, he was extremely mediocre dissecting NFL defenses and had poor footwork and questionable accuracy. His big arm and mobility did him no good if he couldn't hit anything downfield. Fortunately for Buffalo, he developed into an all-around QB.
There's only so much a QB can do with physical talent alone. Carson Wentz went from MVP candidate to one of the worst starting QB's in the league and a definitively worse QB than Rudolph, Goff, or Dobbs. He can run. He can throw. He got the tools, but it got him little because his mechanics and decision making became crap. The Colts are sitting home because of it.
Does a QB need physical tools to succeed? Most definitely, but I believe it only takes them so far. As much as a PAC-12 the NFL has become. You still need a QB who can read NFL Defenses and diagnose coverages before the snap. Defenders are not stupid, and they will eat you alive if they spot a tendency or a weakness, whether it be mental or physical.
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Doesn’t mean he can read a defense in 2-3 seconds and make the right decision.
The more I watch of Malik Willis the more I find it hard to believe he will be there at #20. Imo, he's the 1st QB off the board.
https://steelersnow.com/cbs-sports-m...022-nfl-draft/
Someone from CBS has Steelers grabbing him in a way too early mock.
Why would Bienemy leave KC to do the same job in Pittsburgh?Rodgers or bust.
Have him bring Davante Adams as well and let Juju walk. Hire Eric Bieniemy to run our offense. We would be instant contenders for the next 2-3 years.
I agree, Herbert can sling it. Also, its such a nice football to catch, always a tight spiral and he does really well with ball placement. On the intermediate routes its almost like he throws it at 80% of maximum velocity, so that its more catchable.
Mac Jones and that INT by Hyde, is an example of what arm strength can do or not do for you. If Herbert has to throw that deep ball, it gets there with velocity so that the S cant get over to make a play on it. When Mac Jones launched it like a Balsawood Glider, then it gives Micah Hyde a chance to run over and pick it off like he did.
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Yup, that is it. Malik Willis has a strong arm, can run, reads defenses like a comic book, never gets sacked and his accuracy is just off the charts. Reminds me of Andre Ware.
None of that is wrong. Allen is the most recent and extreme positive example. Guy got the mental part married to the physical tools and took off.
And we can rattle off dozens of names of guys that appear to understand the game really well and struggle as backups let alone starters because they just aren’t physically good enough for the NFL.
I’m not saying you can roll out some mouth breathing moron as long as he can throw it a country mile. If that was the case, Kyle Boller would be in the HOF.
But I have zero interest in a guy like Mac Jones. He has been exposed late this season as a guy that lacks the ability to make certain throws at the NFL level. And teams identified that and exploited it in their defensive approach.
Academic brain power, sure, but does that transition well to the football field? A scientist has all day and then some to figure things out, an NFL QB has 3 seconds, if that. Not to mention 300 lb linemen trying to hurt you in the process. I think he has potential as a coach though, if he chooses to stick with football instead of science after calling it quits as a player. (Roethlisberger always seemed to go to this guy, so he's obviously got smarts and leadership ability)
His total lack of touch and accuracy seems to be his problem far more than knowing where to go with the ball or reading a defense.
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The only thing that the Steelers could do that would absolutely turn me off is……. nothing. Right now I’d put that at 50/50.
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I like Mitch Trubisky. I’ve said it before and I hope he would consider backing up Mason Rudolph more so than Josh Allen.
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“Backing up Mason Rudolph” sounds like such an oxymoron when you say it.
His negatives are coachable. The throws he is capable of making are not. Imo, he's the best QB prospect in the draft. He may need time to develop, but he has elite skills.
I chalk up Mac Jones being a rookie who hit his ceiling, but this isn't wrong either.
We saw what happened to Ben the last two seasons. He had his moments, but he just could not physically perform at the level he needed to no matter what gameplan or plays Fichtner or Canada can trot out. Those two suck, but our Offense has been limited to Ben's preferences and talents since 2018. Not a bad idea when Ben could make NFL throws, but as we have witnessed painfully in 2021, he just could not make those throws anymore. And we not longer had top flight receivers like Antonio Brown who could cover up for the Offenses' deficiencies. The Steelers Offense was predicated on receivers just winning 1-on-1 matchups, but with the lollipops Ben was throwing exposed our receivers' lack of elite talent. Claypool and Johnson are just not good at combat catching. Sprinkle poor playcalling, Add it all up and you have the Steelers' putrid offense of present day.
Rudolph is fine, but that's all he is. His ceiling at best is Neil O'Donnell.
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