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    Black Monday 2022

    Mike Zimmer and GM Rick Spielman are the first casualties, being chopped by the Vikings.

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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    Matt Nagy gone in Chicago.

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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    Bears also fire their GM, and Brian Flores in done in Miami.

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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    Broncos cleared out some coaches before.

    So three teams need a head coach. I think there is another that’s on an interim coach as well?

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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    Chargers should fire their coach. That guy is an idiot.

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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    Dolphins fire Brian Flores. Dumb move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Dolphins fire Brian Flores. Dumb move.
    He will grab a job instantly and will probably have his choice of what situation he wants.

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    you are a Kenny Pickett enabler

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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    He will grab a job instantly and will probably have his choice of what situation he wants.
    Agreed. I don't bought he was doing a good job given the situation.



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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    Stupid NFL Twitter idiots saying Vegas might would pull a Chucky and trade for a top tier coach. Floated Tomlin's name.

    Of course that was before their win

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    Chargers should fire their coach. That guy is an idiot.
    Didn't see the end of rh game sounded like he played turtle ball.

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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Dolphins fire Brian Flores. Dumb move.
    Won 8 out of 9 and barely missed the playoffs. They did start terribly but a strong finish. Someone else should hire him.



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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by NCSteeler View Post
    Stupid NFL Twitter idiots saying Vegas might would pull a Chucky and trade for a top tier coach. Floated Tomlin's name.

    Of course that was before their win

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    I like Tomlin but pending the compensation and if I could get Flores, I would definitely sit and consider it for some time…

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    I like Tomlin but pending the compensation and if I could get Flores, I would definitely sit and consider it for some time…
    Raiders got 2 firsts and 2 seconds and 8 million and blew it all on nothing.

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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Dolphins fire Brian Flores. Dumb move.
    Shocker. I wish we could get him back as our DC but that won't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willy View Post
    Shocker. I wish we could get him back as our DC but that won't happen.
    Bill probably wishes that too so Flores will stop beating him (4-2).

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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Dolphins fire Brian Flores. Dumb move.
    Dolphins are what “dumb” ownership looks like. Or at least impatient ownership. Ross wants to win RIGHT NOW and is lurching from big swing idea to big swing idea (Watson trade).

    Flores didn’t support that. So the owner fired him.

    It’s not going to produce a good outcome.

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    Won 8 out of 9 and barely missed the playoffs. They did start terribly but a strong finish. Someone else should hire him.
    Yup, the Flores to Houston talk has already started. Good young coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Yup, the Flores to Houston talk has already started. Good young coach.
    Better options out there for him than Houston.

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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    About Tomlin... y'know, I actually looked up the records of current coaches the other day, and Tomlin actually has the third best career winning percentage of active head coaches - behind only Sean McVay and Belicheat.

    So even with all his flaws, I still think we should keep Tomlin as long as possible because it's likely the coach after him would be worse.

    I still think the main reason for our woes are the coaches around Tomlin, especially Matt Canada, but we also need other special teams and O-Line coaches. I'm also gonna back up Kevin Colbert, since Harris and the Muth were excellent picks. However, we will need a QB (obviously) and O-Linemen.

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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Yup, the Flores to Houston talk has already started. Good young coach.
    Houston has a love affair with the Billicheck coaching twig, and why not it's done wonders for their draft capital

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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Dolphins are what “dumb” ownership looks like. Or at least impatient ownership. Ross wants to win RIGHT NOW and is lurching from big swing idea to big swing idea (Watson trade).

    Flores didn’t support that. So the owner fired him.

    It’s not going to produce a good outcome.
    Stephen Ross is a horrible football owner. I felt like the Dolphins were building something there, but still need some pieces and also to determine whether Tua is "the guy" or not. Ross made some bad hires before Flores with Gase being the prime example, but firing Flores at this point seems absurd and might be his worst move yet. There is a rumor out there that Flores and the GM Chris Grier do not get along and could not co-exist any longer..........so Ross sided with the GM in this case.

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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by dislocatedday View Post
    Stephen Ross is a horrible football owner. I felt like the Dolphins were building something there, but still need some pieces and also to determine whether Tua is "the guy" or not. Ross made some bad hires before Flores with Gase being the prime example, but firing Flores at this point seems absurd and might be his worst move yet. There is a rumor out there that Flores and the GM Chris Grier do not get along and could not co-exist any longer..........so Ross sided with the GM in this case.
    I think ProFootball Talk has a piece that says Flores wasnt a Tua fan and that has driven a wedge between the former Head Coach and the QB. So what you are saying makes sense. If the GM and Owner like the first round pick QB, but the Head Coach wants somebody else, then there is gonna be friction.

    I think Chicago is the job to take. Franchise QB looks to be in place. He has some WR to throw to in Robinson, Goodwin and Mooney and a TE in Kmet that is on the rise, plus they got a rookie OT in Tevin Jenkins that will improve that line next season. Just have to keep bolstering the Defense and find another playmaker and RB.

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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    I think ProFootball Talk has a piece that says Flores wasnt a Tua fan and that has driven a wedge between the former Head Coach and the QB. So what you are saying makes sense. If the GM and Owner like the first round pick QB, but the Head Coach wants somebody else, then there is gonna be friction.

    I think Chicago is the job to take. Franchise QB looks to be in place. He has some WR to throw to in Robinson, Goodwin and Mooney and a TE in Kmet that is on the rise, plus they got a rookie OT in Tevin Jenkins that will improve that line next season. Just have to keep bolstering the Defense and find another playmaker and RB.

    He, Flores, can wait to if he wants. He can get any defensive coordinator job he wants in the interim.

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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    I like Tomlin but pending the compensation and if I could get Flores, I would definitely sit and consider it for some time…
    Minka Fitzpatrick might disagree.

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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by NCSteeler View Post
    Stupid NFL Twitter idiots saying Vegas might would pull a Chucky and trade for a top tier coach. Floated Tomlin's name.

    Of course that was before their win

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    Exactly... idiots. Just a bunch of hot air being expelled. Not going to happen. From what I'm hearing/reading, Harbaugh is the odds on favorite. Personally, I think Bisaccia has earned the job given the mess this seasoon ended up with Gruden and Ruggs. Even if they don't win another game, they overcame some serious BS in order to get this far.

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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    I found this interesting....The Jags fans dressed up in clown costumes as protest for the GM not being fired. Basically calling out their organization as a clown organization. So the 2-14 team goes out and decimates the 'win and in' Colts in front of a crowd of pissed off, clown dressed fans. Such a weird world we live in.

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/jagua...ip-make-change

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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    Quote Originally Posted by silver & black View Post
    Exactly... idiots. Just a bunch of hot air being expelled. Not going to happen. From what I'm hearing/reading, Harbaugh is the odds on favorite. Personally, I think Bisaccia has earned the job given the mess this seasoon ended up with Gruden and Ruggs. Even if they don't win another game, they overcame some serious BS in order to get this far.
    Was gonna say - I also think Bisaccia has earned the Raiders' HC job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver & black View Post
    Exactly... idiots. Just a bunch of hot air being expelled. Not going to happen. From what I'm hearing/reading, Harbaugh is the odds on favorite. Personally, I think Bisaccia has earned the job given the mess this seasoon ended up with Gruden and Ruggs. Even if they don't win another game, they overcame some serious BS in order to get this far.
    I'd make some interviews before I gave it to him but he'd have aleg up. The team has seemed to respond to him

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    Re: Black Monday 2022

    Uff. Lots of reporting today on the situations in Miami and Chicago.

    Horrible rifts between owner and coach with front office caught in the middle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fansince'76 View Post
    Was gonna say - I also think Bisaccia has earned the Raiders' HC job.
    An interesting thought is ...."who are some interim coaches that got the full time job the following year and were successful?" Jim Caldwell? Art Shell? Jason Garrett? Mike Tice?

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