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    Diontae Johnson

    Can you please tell me what's so good about this guy again?

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    Re: Diontae Johnson

    Do we have on WR on this team that is worth anything? I mean PF fumbled away a chance at a winning FG and he is our best option at this point. I certainly miss Juju right now.

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    Re: Diontae Johnson

    No worries, Aaron Rodgers will bring Davante Adams with him next year.

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    Re: Diontae Johnson

    Elite route runner, YAC ability. Wasn't his best today, DJ was the least of our problems.

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    Re: Diontae Johnson

    JuJu but he’s injured. So.....no.


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    Re: Diontae Johnson

    I am going to laugh when DJ leaves town (and wisely so with the projected QB situation here) and just posts numbers in an offense with a functioning passing game.

    DJ is so far from an item of concern for this team.

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    Re: Diontae Johnson

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I am going to laugh when DJ leaves town (and wisely so with the projected QB situation here) and just posts numbers in an offense with a functioning passing game.

    DJ is so far from an item of concern for this team.
    Exactly. He's our fastest best receiver that fumbled a ball in the rain. So did Muth, move on people. Next year with Rodgers throwing to him he will put up monster numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I am going to laugh when DJ leaves town (and wisely so with the projected QB situation here) and just posts numbers in an offense with a functioning passing game.

    DJ is so far from an item of concern for this team.
    QB makes no difference when the OC is trash. You need a competent playbook to start with.

    If he can’t run a route and get open in Pittsburgh, how will he do it wherever else he goes?


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    Re: Diontae Johnson

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    QB makes no difference when the OC is trash. You need a competent playbook to start with.

    If he can’t run a route and get open in Pittsburgh, how will he do it wherever else he goes?
    I know that you don't believe me, but you can look around the internet until your heart is content...DJ is basically always open. I can not find a place that produces NFL content that doesn't believe he is a star waiting to happen.

    Assign the offensive blame to where ever you or anyone else wants. But it ain't a Diontae Johnson problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I know that you don't believe me, but you can look around the internet until your heart is content...DJ is basically always open. I can not find a place that produces NFL content that doesn't believe he is a star waiting to happen.

    Assign the offensive blame to where ever you or anyone else wants. But it ain't a Diontae Johnson problem.



    I've been tough on DJ because of his lack of toughness and his mental errors, but I think he has been making a conscious effort to play tougher the last couple games. Even the fumble today....I'm not going to kill him for it. He was trying to make a huge play in a game where nobody was making plays. The result sucked but the intentions and effort were great.

    I think he needs to get a little more physical and work on more situational awareness. He is clearly a talent that is only going to get better. If they can get a great offensive gameplan, come up with some better concepts and play design, and get the OL to a point where they dictate to teams with the running game.....good luck covering this guy in man coverage all game. DJ, Claypool, JuJu, Muth, and Najee are more than enough in the right offense and with a top 12ish offensive line.

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    Re: Diontae Johnson

    johnson yes fumbled, but is by far our best receiver and if he hadnt maybe we win, but i just want to go back to 1st and goal and harris NEVER touched the ball WTF.its a combo of bad play caling and not even remotlely being able to stop the run. A W wasnt in the cards lets move on shall we? ormyou can dwell and be miserable all week. Browns got hammered, ratbirds lost. the steelers are above .500 if you would have told me after week 4 that would be the case i would have laughed at you.


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    Re: Diontae Johnson

    Washington is the guy who was garbage today. I'd bump Ray Ray over him from here on.

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    Re: Diontae Johnson

    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    I've been tough on DJ because of his lack of toughness and his mental errors, but I think he has been making a conscious effort to play tougher the last couple games. Even the fumble today....I'm not going to kill him for it. He was trying to make a huge play in a game where nobody was making plays. The result sucked but the intentions and effort were great.

    I think he needs to get a little more physical and work on more situational awareness. He is clearly a talent that is only going to get better. If they can get a great offensive gameplan, come up with some better concepts and play design, and get the OL to a point where they dictate to teams with the running game.....good luck covering this guy in man coverage all game. DJ, Claypool, JuJu, Muth, and Najee are more than enough in the right offense and with a top 12ish offensive line.
    Agreed. He still has plenty of refinements and improvements to make to his game. But, he ain't the problem here.

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    Re: Diontae Johnson

    DJ is our best receiver honestly as far as playmaking ability. We're not as stacked at WR as people think, i think our WR room is kind of average

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    Re: Diontae Johnson

    Is this because of the fumble???

    IMO, it was just a good defensive play.

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    Re: Diontae Johnson

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Is this because of the fumble???

    IMO, it was just a good defensive play.
    Honestly, its a lack of awareness play on the behalf of Johnson. Know the situation, know that when you cut back on your run, that there will be defenders coming from behind to tackle and punch the football. You dont have to be playing against Peanut Tillman to be aware that a DB is going to punch the football out when you slow down for them to catch up.

    Ball security after the catch, was much more important at that point on the field, than trying to earn an extra 5 yards by making another move. A football player with awareness will secure the football, but taking care of the ball hasnt proven to be a real strength of his so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Honestly, its a lack of awareness play on the behalf of Johnson. Know the situation, know that when you cut back on your run, that there will be defenders coming from behind to tackle and punch the football. You dont have to be playing against Peanut Tillman to be aware that a DB is going to punch the football out when you slow down for them to catch up.

    Ball security after the catch, was much more important at that point on the field, than trying to earn an extra 5 yards by making another move. A football player with awareness will secure the football, but taking care of the ball hasnt proven to be a real strength of his so far.
    Honestly yeah situational football is lacking with him somewhat. But mistakes at critical times can cost you big which happened.

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    Re: Diontae Johnson

    DJ is the best WR the Steelers have and, it was not his best game he is not the problem. He gets open and, runs the best routes. I hate the play calling. Plus the defense could not stop the run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Honestly, its a lack of awareness play on the behalf of Johnson. Know the situation, know that when you cut back on your run, that there will be defenders coming from behind to tackle and punch the football. You dont have to be playing against Peanut Tillman to be aware that a DB is going to punch the football out when you slow down for them to catch up.

    Ball security after the catch, was much more important at that point on the field, than trying to earn an extra 5 yards by making another move. A football player with awareness will secure the football, but taking care of the ball hasnt proven to be a real strength of his so far.
    I saw a receiver trying to win the game for an offense that hadn’t mustered much all game long. I saw a receiver who has balls thrown above his head and/or behind him on at least two plays earlier in the game that would have resulted in points. Since the offense was inept AND since the ball actually being in his hands again was not guaranteed, he was trying to get as many yards as possible; I cannot fault him for that.

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    Re: Diontae Johnson

    I remember a young Antonio Brown making a fantastic play , breaking free headed for the endzone for a last second win and stepping out of bounds .......... He turned out to be a pretty good football player ( a headcase but a good football player )

    DJ frustrates me as much as anyone but one should be able to clearly see he has talent ....

    the question is will he ever put it all together ?

    time will tell and we have a bit more of that time to find out
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    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    I saw a receiver trying to win the game for an offense that hadn’t mustered much all game long. I saw a receiver who has balls thrown above his head and/or behind him on at least two plays earlier in the game that would have resulted in points. Since the offense was inept AND since the ball actually being in his hands again was not guaranteed, he was trying to get as many yards as possible; I cannot fault him for that.
    I saw a guy making a mistake that I coach 14 and 15 year old players to not make. I literally cheered at my TV "tuck it away, get down", a split second before he had the ball punched out.

    Johnson failed to know the risk-reward or cost-benefit relationship at an important point of the game. The benefit of trying to gain a few extra yards, cost him the possession of the football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    I saw a guy making a mistake that I coach 14 and 15 year old players to not make. I literally cheered at my TV "tuck it away, get down", a split second before he had the ball punched out.

    Johnson failed to know the risk-reward or cost-benefit relationship at an important point of the game. The benefit of trying to gain a few extra yards, cost him the possession of the football.


    I yelled "Protect the ball!" just before the fumble.

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    As much as I dislike AB, these are the kind of mistakes he rarely made. Say what you will about him, but AB is definitely football smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    As much as I dislike AB, these are the kind of mistakes he rarely made. Say what you will about him, but AB is definitely football smart.
    advance to the 11 min mark please ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    As much as I dislike AB, these are the kind of mistakes he rarely made. Say what you will about him, but AB is definitely football smart.
    AB would make mistakes here and there. DJ makes them weekly. Mostly mental. He looks a lot like AB when he has the ball but he is definitely not the next AB.


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    Re: Diontae Johnson

    DJ has proven that he can work on something and improve, such as the drops. I see him only getting better and earning a second contract with the Steelers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    I saw a guy making a mistake that I coach 14 and 15 year old players to not make. I literally cheered at my TV "tuck it away, get down", a split second before he had the ball punched out.

    Johnson failed to know the risk-reward or cost-benefit relationship at an important point of the game. The benefit of trying to gain a few extra yards, cost him the possession of the football.
    I completely disagree about just falling down. A few more yards and it’s FG range; a missed tackle and it’s possibly a TD.

    As far as protecting the ball goes, when the DB comes up to hit him, DJ pulls the ball into his chest. DJ had good control of the ball, created a third point of contact with his chest, and turned away from the DB. The DB wrapped around DJ’s body and hit the ball perfectly. It had to be perfect, because when DJ turned his body, the odds are that the DB’s hand hits DJ’s shoulder, forearm, or elbow.

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    Re: Diontae Johnson

    Ball carriers should always have 5-6 points of contact. If there’s only 3, that ball is coming out rather easily.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Ball carriers should always have 5-6 points of contact. If there’s only 3, that ball is coming out rather easily.
    Huh?

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    Ball carriers are taught: Fingertips (claw form around tip of ball), palm, forearm, bicep and chest. 6th point would be ball carriers free stem covering ball.


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