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    T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    T.J. Watt is widely considered a favorite to win 2021 Defensive Player of the Year honors entering a contract season with the Steelers. That's assuming the star pass rusher suits up for Pittsburgh, which might not be the case in Week 1. According to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, Watt's availability for the Steelers' season opener against the Bills on Sunday appears "in doubt" barring a last-minute agreement on a new contract. The Pro Bowler did not fully participate in a single team practice throughout training camp, and his practice status ahead of Sunday's matchup has not changed while he seeks a pay raise.

    Watt, who exploded for a career-high 15 sacks in 2020, is not technically a holdout considering he's attended every practice since the summer began. But he participated exclusively in individual drills during camp, working out away from the rest of the team in an effort to accelerate talks on a new deal. Coach Mike Tomlin will reportedly address Watt's absence on Tuesday, but some have speculated that Sunday's kickoff could serve as an unofficial deadline for an extension, considering the Steelers have long refused to negotiate new contracts during the season.

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    What say you Dulac? It's a good thing we didn't hold our breath.

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    This isn't good for the Steelers or TJ.

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    He's under contract, love TJ but this is a dick move if true.

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    No surprise. Seems to be in lockstep with the current culture of the team

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    Nothing wrong with TJ looking for his payday. He's earned it.

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    if he doesnt play Sunday he may not play at all ...

    I mean by the logic used , lets be real they wont negotiate once kickoff hits so the only thing he is losing by not playing is game checks and that is not gaining him money ... and gaining money is what he is trying to do with a new deal ( that he deserves , that said he is under contract now so if no deal made play the contract out and test free agency )
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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    I have no idea why this taking so long. Both sides know where this ends. Someone is quibbling over the % of guaranteed cash. Whatever side leaks this to gain traction.

    Just get it done. It will be for 30-35 million per year. Guarantee 10% less than Watt would like and 10% more than the team would like and get on with business at hand.

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I have no idea why this taking so long. Both sides know where this ends. Someone is quibbling over the % of guaranteed cash. Whatever side leaks this to gain traction.

    Just get it done. It will be for 30-35 million per year. Guarantee 10% less than Watt would like and 10% more than the team would like and get on with business at hand.

    if it doesnt end up with him in uniform on Sunday he likely played his last down as a steeler
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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    The whole “refusal to negotiate during the season” thing is dumb.

    This whole thing should have been done the last week of the preseason so he would’ve had two nice weeks of practice.

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    What’s the hold up? Does he want #1 OLB money and #2 DE money?

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    OK. If you actually click through and read the stuff - all the way back to the original Fowler tweet "report" -- it is no big deal. Same old, same old. Watt does drills and will resume full practice when he signs a deal.

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    What’s the hold up? Does he want #1 OLB money and #2 DE money?
    I am sure it is the percentage of total money that is guaranteed in the deal. Steelers have only ever guaranteed the initial signing bonus in their deals. While the team for the most part let guys play out their deals to see full value, there are always cases where they release someone early. I would bet TJ wants guaranteed money in line with what other elite top defensive payers are getting, which is way more than what the Steelers have guaranteed in the past for players.

    I knew the day would eventually come when the Steelers would be challenged with this "policy" they follow about not guaranteeing any money outside of the upfront signing bonus, and it appears to me that this day has come with TJ. I can't say I blame him, and honestly I think it is time the Steelers re-evaluate how they structure contracts. They are probably thinking if we do this for TJ then the floodgates will open with other players in future negotiations...........but TJ is special and is an elite, blue-chip player.

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    For reference, Myles Garrett has $100M guaranteed with the deal he signed with the Browns last year. I would bet TJ and his agent are looking for guaranteed money to be in that same ballpark.

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    Hmmmm. Will TJ hold out the whole year like leveon bell?

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    Steelers can tie his balls up for three years.

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    Quote Originally Posted by ETL View Post
    Hmmmm. Will TJ hold out the whole year like leveon bell?
    no way, he’s going to get paid and play, much harder to replace than a RB who was actually starting to slip in ypc the last year in Pittsburgh

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    Although I do think it might be funny to watch Steelers fans try and spin Watt's holdout into a good thing...I hope it doesn't come to that!

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    Dear Pittsburgh Steelers, grab a lot of money, and give it to TJ Watt.

    Thanks.

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes View Post
    Nothing wrong with TJ looking for his payday. He's earned it.
    Yes but do it next year when your contract runs out. I fucking HATE the modern day athlete. Entitled a holes.

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    If he is not on the field Sunday, so what? The Steelers are bigger than Watt. Who knows what he's asking. He's not worth $35M a year. He's just not. They control him for three years.

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    Moats take




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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    2021 season off to a rousing start.

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    Trade him for a 5th round pick and let's move on.

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    So if he holds out this week 19-1?

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    I hope he signs and everyone can celebrate, but the fact is TJ isn’t the one with the leverage right now. He’s under contract and he’s never gotten his big payday yet. He’s not going to want to start incurring those crazy fines. Especially knowing that the Steelers will sit on their hands all season and franchise him at the end of it.

    No, TJ will play. He might be annoyed but he’ll play.

    But I think he’s telling his reps just get it done. I want this off my mind. Something will be signed this week.

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    tell him sign the damn deal or face the tag the next TWO season at less money than the projected deal will be ...

    10 million this year + tag next would be 15 million tag year after would be 15 million +20% ( so 18 million )so 43 million over 3 years and you are now 29 looking for big money deal ??? not near as likely
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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    tell him sign the damn deal or face the tag the next TWO season at less money than the projected deal will be ...

    10 million this year + tag next would be 15 million tag year after would be 15 million +20% ( so 18 million )so 43 million over 3 years and you are now 29 looking for big money deal ??? not near as likely
    If he doesn't sign a deal it's probably sit out for 3 years and get the marcus allen treatment or get traded. I hope they can come to a deal, though it doesn't sit well with me if they're already going to make him the highest paid defensive player and that's still not enough?

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    If TJ has another 13+ sack season this year (his fourth season in a row) it will only be the second time in NFL history it’s happened. Reggie White is the other.

    SUMMATION:
    There is ZERO chance the Steelers let a player of that ilk become a free agent, let alone trade him.

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    If TJ has another 13+ sack season this year (his fourth season in a row) it will only be the second time in NFL history it’s happened. Reggie White is the other.

    SUMMATION:
    There is ZERO chance the Steelers let a player of that ilk become a free agent, let alone trade him.
    He's going to have to play in order to have another 13+ sack season. If they come to a disagreement, will he play for the price of that 5th year option? If not, will he play for the franchise tag price? If not, will he spend the next 3 years with Le'Veon Bell in Miami on a jetski?

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    Re: T.J. Watt could miss Steelers' opener vs. Bills amid contract dispute, per report

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Goodell View Post
    He's going to have to play in order to have another 13+ sack season. If they come to a disagreement, will he play for the price of that 5th year option? If not, will he play for the franchise tag price? If not, will he spend the next 3 years with Le'Veon Bell in Miami on a jetski?
    No…..because Le’Veon Bell is now on the Ravens practice squad…..for real!

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