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According to these "experts" we should probably try to trade Ben for a 7th round pick ASAP.
NFL Quarterback Council 2021: Ranking the top 10 QBs in arm strength, accuracy, decision-making, rushing ability, more
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...g-ability-more
I really hope that this stuff fuels Ben to a great year.
Well, you can tell its a bullshit list when Ben isn't even listed in top 10 in compete level, toughness and pocket presence, so there's that, take it for what its worth, shred it and use it for cat litter.
Ben is our best option and I won't argue that, but his deep ball isn't there. If anyone thought that ball to Diontae was a sign that it's back then I'd tell them to watch that play again. It was only a 40-45 yard throw, which was underthrown and should also have been thrown more towards the sideline where it would have gone for 6.
Imo, Ben will struggle to challenge teams vertically, but if the line holds up and we have a solid running game then we shouldn't have to rely on a deep ball too often.
Manning won his last Superbowl with way less QB talent. Manning actually sucked his final year.Originally Posted by RunNGun
If our defense can hold and our running game work we could have a shot.
Maybe Ben only has a 45 yard arm at this point in his career or maybe, the pass was under thrown on purpose because a ball out in front of the receiver gives the safety a play on the ball as well, or if he throws it out in front and to the outside Johnson has to contort his body to make the catch, the possibility exists that Ben under threw it a bit to allow Johnson an easy play on the under thrown ball. We won't know until we see if Ben can still throw it 60-65 yards in the air.
True though they did have the top defense in the league. The No-Fly Zone
The pass wasn’t under thrown on purpose. Ben said after the game that he put too much air under it, implying that it was a technical mistake rather than a lack of arm strength.
Fair enough, I had not heard any of that, but we still don't know if he has a 45 yard arm or a 60 yard arm
a 45 yard arm is good enough if he can accurately land passes from that distance. he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn last year on anything past 10 yards late in the season
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Those observing practice say his arm strength is still intact.
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Here's an article on the throw. Of course, Dave Bryan gives himself praise for noticing that the ball had too much air under it. Duh. Bad throws happen occasionally for a variety of reasons.
https://steelersdepot.com/2021/08/ro...against-lions/
Ben knows he could have thrown a TD there, but in retrospect I’m kind of glad he didn’t. We would have been deprived of one of the PF TDs.
After watching that play again, it was pretty impressive how DJ just blew by the defender after the guy gave him a big cushion to begin with.
In the regular season we’re gonna see that play get a TD, especially with Claypool on the other side drawing attention.
If our O line does well, I see a pretty high powered offense this year.
yep, o line playing well along with a stud RB will take pressure off Ben. Only way Steelers advance through playoffs is with balance. I’d take game manager Ben back in a heartbeat, with the occasional 350 yard game thrown in.Ben knows he could have thrown a TD there, but in retrospect I’m kind of glad he didn’t. We would have been deprived of one of the PF TDs.
After watching that play again, it was pretty impressive how DJ just blew by the defender after the guy gave him a big cushion to begin with.
In the regular season we’re gonna see that play get a TD, especially with Claypool on the other side drawing attention.
If our O line does well, I see a pretty high powered offense this year.
guess what , I dont care if his deep ball is gone if he can still sling it 40 yards that's enough ...
give me 8-10-132 yards and 2 TDs per quarter every quarter all year long in fact I would prefer that to the once every 3 or 4 games a 50-60 yard completion
as for these rankings , just like almost all the other ranking they are not worth the paper they are written on and Ben will prove to be top half of the league even still ....
as bad as they want to make you believe he is he was the best QB in the division last year yet they want to make you think he is/will be the worst in the division ...
I am a believer in fact not fiction and this does not become fact until the others out perform him and quite frankly that just hasn't happened yet
Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles problem now
The way I saw it and maybe I need to see it again. If he threw it any deeper it would have been picked off.
"Zeds dead baby, Zeds dead." - Butch
DJ slowed down to catch it but there was a safety coming in on an angle. But if Ben threw it more to the outside hitting DJ in stride closer to the sideline no one else had a play on the ball. DJ had a couple steps on the corner.
That’s ok, there was plenty of heat on both TD passes. Ask PF.
DJ would’ve dropped it.
I thought this was interesting, especially considering our third down struggles late in the season last year.
https://twitter.com/alex_kozora/stat...912331789?s=21
Can’t do much when you have no running game, o line is poor, and your still recovering from elbow surgery
Not sure I get your point.
My point is that Ben is very good on 3rd and 6+. Even if it might not seem like it recently.
Maybe I'm wrong but, Ben has almost always been the most under-rated QB in NFL history. Hardly ever gets any credit and, when he was early in his career they all said he is not a pocket passer holds the ball too long waits to the play breaks down to make the play. I think Ben has more 500 yard passing games than any other QB in the NFL history. Then last year he was getting the ball out faster than anyone and, I know how the season ended don't remind me. He seems to always get the hate from the so called experts and, this year most of those people said The Steelers should not not show up this year they are done as their 38 year old hall of fame QB is. My god he did have 33 TD passes last year with a O-line that was not very good and, they could not run the ball worth a lick! So they blames Ben for all of the short comings and, not to mention a defense that had some big injures plus they wore down at the end of the season. To Ben is still a very good QB and, lets give him a chance and, if the o-line can give him so time with the playmakers in the passing game with Harris running the ball the Steelers could make a super bowl run. I guess HATERS are going to HATE. I know Ben's deep ball was off last year but, this is a new year let's see what happens.
As far as first ballot HOF QBs go, Ben probably is underrated amongst the general public.
With Steelers fans, it can be a little different. We’ve see him perform so many miracles under the greatest pressure that we expect him to always do it. Throughout his career it’s always seemed that there is no unwinnable game as long as he’s under center, so when we get a few games where he fails to pull out a victory we tend to think he’s lost his magic.
I would not be surprised a little bit if it took him 4-5 years to get in the HOF. The media hates him.
The only possible way Ben doesn’t get in on the first ballot is if he retires the same year as Brady and Rodgers. Even then they’d probably put all three in.
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The miracles have been few and far between the past 10 years. But I still remember them.
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