Chris Johnson was on Bryant McFadden’s show saying that during the draft process, Tomlin was extremely interested in drafting him. But… Johnson refused to take an MRI. Johnson said he was claustrophobic and wouldn’t take an MRI… to which Tomlin responded by saying that the Steelers would not be able to draft him without a medical check. (That’s why the Steelers passed on him.)
Imagine what could have been with our defense paired with CJ2000 in offense.
I think CJ2K wouldn't have put up 2000 yards in our offense in those days. Air-ians was the OC, Our Offensive line was average, blocking was non-existent and everything was based on Ben's improvisation and making something out of nothing.
Johnson would've been on the PUP every year witj the beatings he would've took.
Ugh…
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Agreed. Arians would have misused him (probably nosedives up the middle) and saying the o line was average in those days was a great overstatement
Plus when a guy denies an MRI, you can't blame the team for passing on him
He still would've been good imo, Willie Parker and Rashard Mendenhall had success behind our line, and CJ was much better. Our line then weren't bad at run blocking, though the pass blocking was terrible. Kemo was a road grader but couldn't pick up a stunt to save his life
Speaking of RBs we should have drafted…
Winning the final game of the 2006 season moved us from out of the top ten in the ensuing draft (but, it also knocked the Bengals out of the playoffs; so I’ll take it). Ajyway, dropping in the draft meant that we would have had to have traded up for AP or Beast Mode… and I gladly would have traded the ENTIRE 2008 draft to have had one of them.
If we have AP or Lynch, we win three of the next five Super Bowls.
I really don't follow this line of thinking. Keeping in mind Lynch won one Super Bowl with Russell Wilson and the Legion of Boom. Peterson meanwhile never made a Super Bowl (in part because of fumbling issues) even when he had Brett Favre and a dominant Vikings D-line.
AP or Lynch would be much better than Mewelde Moore and Isaac Redman. They would have been the straw that would break our opponents’ backs.
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If I'm remembering correctly(big IF), when Lynch left Buffalo there was an attempt to bring him to the Steelers. I think he chose Seattle over some other teams.
I would still bring in AP as a backup RB today.
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After watching JH92 take one goal-line to goal-line in the SB, why did he not get some opportunities to punch it in from goal-line formations? Those 'Refrigerator Perry' moments are considered gimmicks but if they work, they work.
They may have been better but they would have not won 2 extra super bowls on their own. RBS are just not that valuable
2010 - Either would have been better than our RBs against the Packers. Slight improved running game… we win.
2011 - We can rely on the running game. We rest Ben (who isn’t hobbled for the playoffs).
You're just blindly assuming that adding one player would automatically lead to a super bowl when it's more complicated than that including performance in the game. Also a rb was not going to turn a team that flamed out against tim tebow and the -81 point differential Broncos into super bowl winners especially considering that in 2011, Peterson suffered an acl tear and lynch couldn't elevate his team past 7-9 in 2011
So, you’re saying that improving from Redman to Lynch wouldn’t have made any difference. Okay. Sure.
If the Chiefs lose Mahomes… it won’t many ANY difference. You’re funny.
Yeah because a franchise qb has the same value as a rb. You're funnySo, you’re saying that improving from Redman to Lynch wouldn’t have made any difference. Okay. Sure.
If the Chiefs lose Mahomes… it won’t many ANY difference. You’re funny.
You said “one player”… your words.
Tell that to John Elway
BOOM!!!
Game.
Set.
Match.
I was meaning one rb but it is hard in general for many non positions to have that kind of impact.You said “one player”… your words.
While your at it, compile a list of some of the greatest rbs then count how many of those players have 2 super bowl/nfl championship wins. Or take a look at the top 10 rushing seasons and count how many led to super bowl wins (hint not many for either)
One thing has nothing to do with the other.
If you put Barry Sanders on the 90s Steelers, are you realistically saying it wouldn’t have improved those Steelers teams? I mean… really??? You’re saying that there would have been ZERO difference…???
What capsized all those pre-Ben cowher postseason runs, qb play or rb play?
Interceptions
Back to the point: Are you really saying that adding Barry Sanders to a team (almost any team) in the 90s wouldn’t have made that team better???
Ok I thought that question would have lead to your answer but I guess I'll have to spell it out to you in a far more simpler way. It probably would have led to better rushing totals and even a rushing title but it ultimately wouldn't have improved in terms of leading it to a super bowl because poor qb play and interceptions would have still capsized those 90s postseason runs. Is that direct enough for you?
Okay… so, the QB play of a specific team during a specific era would have kept them from winning a championship.
But, what about your blanket statement upgrading a position (other than QB) wouldn’t improve a team. How about Sanders on the Favre-led Packers?… that wouldn’t have improved that team? How about putting Sanders on the Niners?… there’s no interception problem there.
Going back in history, if the Steelers draft Justin Houston instead of Jason Worilds… you’re saying it wouldn’t have improved the Steelers???
How about drafting Xavien Howard instead of Artie Burns?
How about having Bell for the 2016 playoff game in Denver? Would you really stick with Toussaint???
How about having Bell for the 2017 AFCCG?
I still would want some spare ligaments and joints for Troy P over Lynch or AP. Healthy Troy might have made a difference more than a few times.
No way… he’s not a QB.
Read my statement again it was specifically about winning super bowls I never said one player or another would never improve a team in one aspect. Try practicing your basic reading comprehension
The Favre-led Packers were routinely on the cusp of going to/winning SUPER BOWLS… and my contention is that adding Sanders could have improved them enough to WIN another.
The 90s Niners were routinely on the cusp of going to/winning SUPER BOWLS… and my contention is that adding Sanders could have improved them enough to WIN another.
The 2015 Steelers were on the cusp of going to that championship game (and maybe even a SUPER BOWL)… and my contention is that adding having a healthy Bell could have improved them enough to go to (WIN) another SUPER BOWL.
The 2016 Steelers were on the cusp of going to that SUPER BOWL… and my contention is that adding having a healthy Bell could have improved them enough to go to (WIN) another.
Coming back full-circle, the 2011 Steelers were on the cusp of winning the division. Instead, they could not RUN out the clock against the Ravens… and the Steelers ended up as a 5 seed. My contention is that adding Beast Mode would have helped them win the division (in turn, not have to play in the Wild Card round)… which means Ben could have rested, gotten healthy, which vastly increases their chances of winning another SUPER BOWL.
Et cetera.
2015 and 16 their pass defense wasn't good enough to get them to a super bowl regardless of who the rb was. 2011, if you can't beat a bad Broncos team, you probably have more problems than one rb.
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