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Maybe over Obama's "white house" in SE DC.
Isn't there another religion that believes the whole world will be under it in the future? Who cares if the flag if Islam flies over the WH as long as it's after the Rapture...
You can pick any major religion of the world and there are those extremists within those religions that make stupid, outrageous claims in "the name of (insert name deity)" He's just another idiot
Can you imagine if every time a news program did a story on Christianity they interviewed Phelps and people argued that he spoke for the religion as a whole?
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play"
-- Jack Lambert --
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play"
-- Jack Lambert --
Nope...not interested in hijacking this thread in the name of your justification.
You implied that Christianity thought the same way...and brought up the rapture. Even though that makes no sense at all, since the Christians wouldnt be here to raise a flag....and those that remain are DEFINATELY not going to raise a Christian flag.
It was a poor comparison and off topic.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play"
-- Jack Lambert --
...except that there is no need to make that sort of justification. It is VERY obvious in the video that the extremist was not speakin on behalf of all muslims. We all saw the muslims that disagreed with him. We all understand it to be mainly a muslim against muslim discussion.
The video is about how extreme fundamental muslims DO want to take over the world. NOT how ALL muslims want to take over the world.
Your broad brush (and incorrect) statement about Christianity as a whole stands in stark contrast to the point made in the video about a extreme sect of Islam.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play"
-- Jack Lambert --
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play"
-- Jack Lambert --
I do. I just don't think that was the point of posting it here since the title of the thread is "The Flag of Islam will one day fly over the White House"
If Mach1's point was that there is one kook who said a stupid thing then I am directly ON TOPIC. If his point is "Islam bad" then I am on topic with an opposing view. What's your view?
The point is obvious.
The EXTREMIST fundemental Muslim made that statement while arguing with a moderate Muslim and the majority of the Muslim crowd was shocked by his ignorance and arrogance. It confirms what most people already know...extreme fundamental muslims are not content with being left alone to worship as they see fit...they believe that they must destroy anyone who does not believe as they do...INCLUDING MODERATE MUSLIMS.
If anything...this video should make you happy because it confirms that MOST MUSLIMS do not agree with the fundamentalists.
Not sure why you feel the need to rationalize the statement made by the extremist.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play"
-- Jack Lambert --
Again...why the need to bring up Christianity at all? The thread is about what an EXTREMISTS Muslim said while arguing with moderate Muslims.
The facts are:
1) the video shows two different opinions of the Muslim faith.
2) One is an extremist and did indeed say that the islamic flag would fly above the whitehouse
3) the other being moderate, was shocked and disagreed with the extremist viewpoint.
If you are "somehow" trying to argue that there are extremists in every religion...then I am not sure who you are arguing with. Who doesnt believe that? You are muddying the discussion with an arguement that noone is debating.
You have argued elsewhere that people are painting all Mulsims with a big brush...but when presented with a video that actually shows that not all muslims are extremists you STILL try and argue the content.
as far as my making up the word destroy...I wasnt quoting the video verbatim but rather referring to extremist fundamental muslims M.O. of using deadly force instead of diplomacy.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play"
-- Jack Lambert --
I brought up Christianity to illustrate that using and extreme view of one person doesn't say anything about the religion as a whole because they all have interpretations that can be taken as crazy. Christianity was the best religion to use for that because it's the one most people here know about and don't have fear towards whether they believe or not.
On the video the extremist also said "if you want to live in peace with Muslims we are quite happy to live in peace with you." He then was talking about the prophesy in Islam that it will one day be the world's religion. That's why I brought up the Rapture. If you get a room full of Christians talking about Revelation (no s) and presenting their interpretations like those things will actually happen, don't you think it might scare people who fall into eternal damnation categories?
But the video did not show ONE point of view..it showed BOTH points of view and gave both sides a chance to give thier views. If the extremist was shown in a bad light it was by the content of his speech, not by a twisting of words or one side commentary.
Again..the Christian comparison doesnt hold out because Christianity teached that this world will NEVER fully accept the Christian faith.
You said..
Do Christians want others to accept Christianity? Yes and they do that through evangalism. You can most certainly compare that to moderate muslims and their desire to bring others to the islamic faith. Not sure how you can compare that to "EXTREME....FUNDAMENTAL....ISLAM". Do you believe that extreme fundamental muslims are peaceful? The moderate Muslims dont believe that....why do you?If you get a room full of Christians talking about Revelation (no s) and presenting their interpretations like those things will actually happen, don't you think it might scare people who fall into eternal damnation categories?
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play"
-- Jack Lambert --
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play"
-- Jack Lambert --
That's not about religion, it's about thugs wanting control and justifying it with religion. The guy with the bomb on his back might be a true, if misplaced believer, but the guy planning it and strapping bombs on kids to do the dirty work is a cynical power hungry thug. The leaders of the Taliban, I promise you, don't follow the laws behind closed doors. They get power and enjoy all the evil vices like everyone else does. They just like being vicious and in control and feared. Religion has always been a useful tool for that.
BINGO!!!
...and now you understand what drives extreme fundamentalism of any religion. Its about the have and the have nots. Its about power as you correctly stated.
Extreme Muslims want to crush everyone..including moderate muslims...under the heel of muslim sharia law. Their strict interpretation of Islam is meant to keep "others" under their control. I totally agree that extremists of any religion are not inclined to follow their own dictates behind closed doors....because it IS about power and not about faith.
So when I hear a Fundamental extremist Cleric say that they want to live in peace...and then turn around and say that the Whithouse will be under a Mulsim flag....you can apply your own logic to the "how" of his dream...and can be assured that his "peace" is the same type if peace an abusive father gets from his cowered and bruised child.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play"
-- Jack Lambert --
This is the flag that soon will fly over the White House . Great Job on everything you touch Barry .
This guy isn’t the “extreme” of islam. His words and deeds are representative of islam and its leadership. islam’s stated purpose is the submission of all mankind, and brutal reprisals to those that won’t submit. That is all the evidence you need that islam is satanic. God forces nobody to bow or submit. He gave us our own free will.
That’s about the only thing you’ve ever said that I agree with, but not for the reason you meant. islam is not a religion. It’s a mafia. Look no further than your own illustration…
The rulers of islam are brutal despots that control hordes of inbreds under the heel of “submission”. Further evidenced by the smug cynicism of the “cleric” in the video…
Same as saying “Peace is the absence of opposition to socialism”. And there is the nexus. The problem for y’all is that what you call “liberal” or “progressive”, or even “socialist” won’t be tolerated under sharia. Yinz’ll be the first to go.
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Your response betrays your ignorance. http://www.steelersuniverse.com/foru...ll=1#post40470
Or is it denial?