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    Re: Could Alejandro Villanueva replace Orlando Brown for Ravens?

    All the best to Big AL! 8mil fully guaranteed for him and his family is sweet!



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    Re: Could Alejandro Villanueva replace Orlando Brown for Ravens?

    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post
    DeCosta is so smart. There is a reason that he has something like 53 comp picks over the past several years... and the next closest team is TEN behind them.

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    The Ravens are smart. They know that if AV signs with them AFTER the draft, then the Steelers do NOT get a comp pick for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post
    yep, he’s dead to me until he retires.

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    I don't hate him because he's a good man, but I personally hope going up against TJ makes him wanna retire

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    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    DeCosta is so smart. There is a reason that he has something like 53 comp picks over the past several years... and the next closest team is TEN behind them.
    He not only screwed the Steelers out of a comp pick but he saved a 4th round pick for the Ravens. Smart move.

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    you are a Kenny Pickett enabler

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    Re: Could Alejandro Villanueva replace Orlando Brown for Ravens?

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    He not only screwed the Steelers out of a comp pick but he saved a 4th round pick for the Ravens. Smart move.
    Some pundits are saying he’s circumventing the rules.

    I just say he’s smarter than most GMs.

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    Re: Could Alejandro Villanueva replace Orlando Brown for Ravens?

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    He not only screwed the Steelers out of a comp pick but he saved a 4th round pick for the Ravens. Smart move.
    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Some pundits are saying he’s circumventing the rules.

    I just say he’s smarter than most GMs.
    I don't disagree with the takes on DeCosta. He and the Ravens have made a mini-living out of comp picks. It is part of their entire roster construction strategy.

    HOWEVER...before we totally congratulate the guy....consider that in a league that is annually desperate for quality OT's (let alone LTs) that AV sat on the open market with almost zero interest. That, to me, says something.

    NOW...we could go one more 3D chess level move and surmise that the Ravens TOLD AV weeks and weeks (months?) ago that they would sign him to this deal if he waited until after the draft...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I don't disagree with the takes on DeCosta. He and the Ravens have made a mini-living out of comp picks. It is part of their entire roster construction strategy.

    HOWEVER...before we totally congratulate the guy....consider that in a league that is annually desperate for quality OT's (let alone LTs) that AV sat on the open market with almost zero interest. That, to me, says something.

    NOW...we could go one more 3D chess level move and surmise that the Ravens TOLD AV weeks and weeks (months?) ago that they would sign him to this deal if he waited until after the draft...
    My comment is more about the timing than the actual player talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    you are a Kenny Pickett enabler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    you are a Kenny Pickett enabler

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    Re: Could Alejandro Villanueva replace Orlando Brown for Ravens?

    Just in case anyone get's upset, AL is just joking.

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    It will be a cold day in Hell before Villanueva plays for the Ravens. Take that to the bank.

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    Re: Could Alejandro Villanueva replace Orlando Brown for Ravens?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    Just in case anyone get's upset, AL is just joking.
    He’s just butt hurt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
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    Re: Could Alejandro Villanueva replace Orlando Brown for Ravens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloydwoodsonjr View Post
    It will be a cold day in Hell before Villanueva plays for the Ravens. Take that to the bank.
    Umm. He already signed.

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    Re: Could Alejandro Villanueva replace Orlando Brown for Ravens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloydwoodsonjr View Post
    It will be a cold day in Hell before Villanueva plays for the Ravens. Take that to the bank.

    that bank must be writing rubber checks cause its as useless as the comment ... the dude already signed for 8 million dollars fully guaranteed when the comment was made ....
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles problem now

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    Re: Could Alejandro Villanueva replace Orlando Brown for Ravens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I don't disagree with the takes on DeCosta. He and the Ravens have made a mini-living out of comp picks. It is part of their entire roster construction strategy.

    HOWEVER...before we totally congratulate the guy....consider that in a league that is annually desperate for quality OT's (let alone LTs) that AV sat on the open market with almost zero interest. That, to me, says something.

    NOW...we could go one more 3D chess level move and surmise that the Ravens TOLD AV weeks and weeks (months?) ago that they would sign him to this deal if he waited until after the draft...
    That is the point.

    Sign AV on Friday: lose a R4 comp AND give the Steelers get a R5 comp

    Sign AV on Tuesday: keep the R4 pick AND negate a comp pick for the Steelers

    SUMMATION:
    By waiting four days to sign AV, DeCosta worked the comp system in his favor. Now, was it a “good” signing?... well, that is debateable.

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    Re: Could Alejandro Villanueva replace Orlando Brown for Ravens?

    Read these interesting quotes yesterday from Alejandro Villanueva: [SOURCE]

    "For us as an offensive line in Pittsburgh last year, it was incredibly challenging that we knew that we had to go with these game plans that involved passing the ball potentially the entire game," Villanueva said during Wednesday's virtual media press conference. "The mentality when you have a balanced offense, or when you run the ball, it's obviously better for an offensive line. I'm assuming it's not as fun for the wide receivers because they're not getting all the catches. They're making their TikToks, and they're having fun on social media. But for an offensive lineman, it's definitely an awesome experience."

    "When you have to pass the ball, especially like you had to do last year, it involves an incredible amount of pressure," he said. "Because you know the pass rushers can get into a rhythm. You're going against Myles Garrett, and he's going to get 10, 15 passes in a row to set up moves, to be able to attack every single angle of your body, try different moves. He has 50 to 60 snaps to try everything that he wants to do on you. So it becomes very stressful."

    He's not wrong. Teams figured out our one dimensional game plans by time we played the Ravens the second time. Once Dupree went down our defense couldn't keep us in games and we were toast.

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    Re: Could Alejandro Villanueva replace Orlando Brown for Ravens?

    Thank you for your service! Thank you for your time with the Steelers! You're now the enemy. I'm sure that our front 7 is looking forward to facing you too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloydwoodsonjr View Post
    It will be a cold day in Hell before Villanueva plays for the Ravens. Take that to the bank.
    Couldn't you have just said, "I'll leave the board if he signs with the Ravens"?

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    Re: Could Alejandro Villanueva replace Orlando Brown for Ravens?

    So it was the one dimensional offensive system that made AV look bad? It wasn’t his being - over the hill?

    we’ll see, I think the ravens were just desperate for a LT replacement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeler-in-west View Post
    So it was the one dimensional offensive system that made AV look bad? It wasn’t his being - over the hill?

    we’ll see, I think the ravens were just desperate for a LT replacement
    To your first point I would say both probably played into it. Let's face it most of our OL looked bad at the end of last season because our offense was so predictable and Ben's aging downfield arm made it worse. Like I said in another post (somewhere on this board) a retired Steelers lineman did a breakdown on the Steelers blocking schemes last year and he said that all the OL was automatically taking a step backwards first even on running plays which was a horrible coaching decision.

    To your second point, I agree we'll see how much #1 plays into if he plays well on the Ravens.

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    Re: Could Alejandro Villanueva replace Orlando Brown for Ravens?

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    That is the point.

    Sign AV on Friday: lose a R4 comp AND give the Steelers get a R5 comp

    Sign AV on Tuesday: keep the R4 pick AND negate a comp pick for the Steelers

    SUMMATION:
    By waiting four days to sign AV, DeCosta worked the comp system in his favor. Now, was it a “good” signing?... well, that is debateable.
    Agree with all that. Why more teams do not do exactly what the Ravens do with veteran FA's is totally beyond me. In fact, the Ravens tend to draft and develop with the PLAN of losing guys to get comp picks. It seems. to an outsider fan, that they will often choose the comp pick and the player they get with it over 3 more years of an existing player. I mean other than Suggs, what pass rusher have they ever hung onto? Their faith in their scouting and development with LBs in particular is something to see.

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    Re: Could Alejandro Villanueva replace Orlando Brown for Ravens?

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    That is the point.

    Sign AV on Friday: lose a R4 comp AND give the Steelers get a R5 comp

    Sign AV on Tuesday: keep the R4 pick AND negate a comp pick for the Steelers

    SUMMATION:
    By waiting four days to sign AV, DeCosta worked the comp system in his favor. Now, was it a “good” signing?... well, that is debateable.
    Villanueva is OK vs average players but Myles Garrett made him look like he wasn't even on the field. At least Lamar has a running chance.

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    Re: Could Alejandro Villanueva replace Orlando Brown for Ravens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloydwoodsonjr View Post
    Villanueva is OK vs average players but Myles Garrett made him look like he wasn't even on the field. At least Lamar has a running chance.
    I guess it won't matter since he isn't playing for the Ravens...at least that is what I heard...

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    Re: Could Alejandro Villanueva replace Orlando Brown for Ravens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    I guess it won't matter since he isn't playing for the Ravens...at least that is what I heard...


    I wonder who he will play for??????

    I'd like to be able to take it to the bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    I wonder who he will play for??????

    I'd like to be able to take it to the bank.
    Hopefully the poster with inside connections to AV's thoughts will let us know ASAP. I have some home improvements I am not sure how to fund. Maybe I can get a little betting action going...

    So...since he isn't going to play for the Ravens....can LWJr tell us who he is going to play for Week 1? There has to be an internet site where I can bet on that!

    I mean it is pretty chilly out today....but I suspect hell is still fairly warm....so still not the Ravens.

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    Re: Could Alejandro Villanueva replace Orlando Brown for Ravens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloydwoodsonjr View Post
    It will be a cold day in Hell before Villanueva plays for the Ravens. Take that to the bank.
    the bank said that the check bounced.

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    Re: Could Alejandro Villanueva replace Orlando Brown for Ravens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Hopefully the poster with inside connections to AV's thoughts will let us know ASAP. I have some home improvements I am not sure how to fund. Maybe I can get a little betting action going...

    So...since he isn't going to play for the Ravens....can LWJr tell us who he is going to play for Week 1? There has to be an internet site where I can bet on that!

    I mean it is pretty chilly out today....but I suspect hell is still fairly warm....so still not the Ravens.


    Try surethingsportsbook.com

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    Re: Could Alejandro Villanueva replace Orlando Brown for Ravens?

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Al is just joking around. Aditi should know better.

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    Re: Could Alejandro Villanueva replace Orlando Brown for Ravens?

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    Al is just joking around. Aditi should know better.

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    Is he??

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