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    Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    What was the best and the worst Colbert pick of all time? I thought of this question when someone brought up the LS he drafted a few years back.

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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    Best pick: Ben. Won the franchise 2 Super Bowls. Also had no business being drafted where he was

    Worst pick: Jarvis Jones. Set the defense back a few years and is one of the 1st round draft picks in Steelers history

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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    worst -

    off the top of my head:

    1) Limas Sweed
    2) Jarvis Jones
    3) Artie Burns

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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    I’m thinking...

    Best: Ben/Troy tie
    Worst: Jarvis Jones

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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    not sure we can give Colbert the credit for picking Ben.

    Colbert and Cowher were going to pick Shawn Andrews if Dan Rooney hadn't stepped in to convince them to select Ben instead.

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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    Best: Troy
    Worst: Burns

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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    Fred Gibson. Cedric Hume.

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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    I hope I didn't miss anyone, but the best draft picks based on value in no particular order since 2000:

    Plaxico Burress 1st round
    Marvel Smith 2nd round
    Clark Haggans 5th round
    Troy Polamalu 1st round
    Ike Taylor 4th round
    Brett Keisel 7th round
    Ben Roethlisberger 1st round
    Lawrence Timmons 1st round
    LaMarr Woodley 2nd round
    William Gay 5th round
    Casey Hampton 1st round
    Kendrell Bell 2nd round
    Chris Hope 3rd round
    Larry Foote 4th round
    Heath Miller 1st round
    Santonio Holmes 1st round
    Mike Wallace 3rd round
    Keenan Lewis 3rd round
    Antonio Brown 6th round
    Maurkice Pouncey 1st round
    Cam Heyward 1st round
    David DeCastro 1st round
    Kelvin Beachum 7th round
    Le'Veon Bell 2nd round
    Vince Williams 6th round
    Stephon Tuitt 2nd round
    Ryan Shazier 1st round
    Javon Hargrave 3rd round
    TJ Watt 1st round
    JuJu Smith-Schuster 2nd round
    Bud Dupree 1st round
    Martavis Bryant 4th round
    Emmanuel Sanders 3rd round
    Willie Colon 4th round
    Chris Kemoeatu 6th round

    A little early, but looking good:


    Devin Bush 1st round
    Diontae Johnson 3rd round
    Cam Sutton 3rd round
    Chase Claypool 2nd round
    Alex Highsmith 3rd round
    Keven Dotson 4th round

    I just wanted to list all the players that I believe were and are quality players at an excellent value, even if they didn't spend most of their career with the Steelers.

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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    Best: Troy

    Worst: Jarvis Jones

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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    Best: Jon Kuhn

    Worst: Ben Roethlisberger

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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    Best value: AB

    Worst value: Jarvis Jones edges out Artie Burns and Xavier Rhodes was such an obvious Steelers type corner to pass on

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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    Here's and article on this very subject through 2018.

    https://wholeninesports.com/2019/04/...draft-history/

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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    Best: I hope it has yet to happen but for this conversation, TP43.

    Worst: Gerod Hollimon

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    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    Here's and article on this very subject through 2018.

    https://wholeninesports.com/2019/04/...draft-history/
    They should just have named him Vernon Haynes. Even announcers couldn’t get Verron right. Spell check still wants to make it Vernon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    I hope I didn't miss anyone, but the best draft picks based on value in no particular order since 2000:

    Plaxico Burress 1st round
    Marvel Smith 2nd round
    Clark Haggans 5th round
    Troy Polamalu 1st round
    Ike Taylor 4th round
    Brett Keisel 7th round
    Ben Roethlisberger 1st round
    Lawrence Timmons 1st round
    LaMarr Woodley 2nd round
    William Gay 5th round
    Casey Hampton 1st round
    Kendrell Bell 2nd round
    Chris Hope 3rd round
    Larry Foote 4th round
    Heath Miller 1st round
    Santonio Holmes 1st round
    Mike Wallace 3rd round
    Keenan Lewis 3rd round
    Antonio Brown 6th round
    Maurkice Pouncey 1st round
    Cam Heyward 1st round
    David DeCastro 1st round
    Kelvin Beachum 7th round
    Le'Veon Bell 2nd round
    Vince Williams 6th round
    Stephon Tuitt 2nd round
    Ryan Shazier 1st round
    Javon Hargrave 3rd round
    TJ Watt 1st round
    JuJu Smith-Schuster 2nd round
    Bud Dupree 1st round
    Martavis Bryant 4th round
    Emmanuel Sanders 3rd round
    Willie Colon 4th round
    Chris Kemoeatu 6th round

    A little early, but looking good:


    Devin Bush 1st round
    Diontae Johnson 3rd round
    Cam Sutton 3rd round
    Chase Claypool 2nd round
    Alex Highsmith 3rd round
    Keven Dotson 4th round

    I just wanted to list all the players that I believe were and are quality players at an excellent value, even if they didn't spend most of their career with the Steelers.
    I don’t think I ever realized that Keisel was a 7th round pick. I’m so glad we had him. He is a Steelers through and through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    not sure we can give Colbert the credit for picking Ben.

    Colbert and Cowher were going to pick Shawn Andrews if Dan Rooney hadn't stepped in to convince them to select Ben instead.
    What is the source for the Shawn Andrews story? I have seen this alleged before, but I don't think I've ever seen a source for it. Is it true, or is it just Steelers' fan lore?

    Ben and Troy are the Colbert era's best picks. AB is honorable mention, but his departure soured it.

    Jarvis and Burns are the worst picks- clear first-round busts that derailed the defensive rebuild (and I think cost the Steelers a real shot at a Super Bowl in the latter half of the 2010s). Alonzo Jackson, Senquez Golson, and Ziggy Hood are honorable mentions.

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    Best was Antonio Brown
    Worst was Jarvis Jones

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    you are a Kenny Pickett enabler

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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    Quote Originally Posted by W&M_Steeler View Post
    What is the source for the Shawn Andrews story? I have seen this alleged before, but I don't think I've ever seen a source for it. Is it true, or is it just Steelers' fan lore?

    Ben and Troy are the Colbert era's best picks. AB is honorable mention, but his departure soured it.

    Jarvis and Burns are the worst picks- clear first-round busts that derailed the defensive rebuild (and I think cost the Steelers a real shot at a Super Bowl in the latter half of the 2010s). Alonzo Jackson, Senquez Golson, and Ziggy Hood are honorable mentions.


    Dan Rooney himself wrote about it in his book



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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    Best-Troy
    Worst-Sweed

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    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Best: Jon Kuhn

    Worst: Ben Roethlisberger

    Obviously....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post
    Dan Rooney himself wrote about it in his book
    That's a pretty damn good source.

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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    It’s Polamalu doo dooo doo doo

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Best was Antonio Brown
    Worst was Jarvis Jones
    Changing worst to Burns. It was just not necessary to take Burns in that spot. It was a reach for need and a player that wasn’t worth the spot to start with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwinsgames View Post
    you are a Kenny Pickett enabler

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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkman View Post
    They should just have named him Vernon Haynes. Even announcers couldn’t get Verron right. Spell check still wants to make it Vernon.

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    I don’t think I ever realized that Keisel was a 7th round pick. I’m so glad we had him. He is a Steelers through and through.


    Keisel was a huge bargain and a terrific player for a long time here. He was a perfect fit here schematically and from a personality standpoint. Great dude, great teammate, great in the community.

    A real homerun late in the draft.

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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    I’m adding to my worst that most haven’t even thought about. Do to all the bitching and moaning that, this and every other Steelers chat board did, the organization decided to do something about the OL. In a three year period, they drafted in early rounds Gilbert, Pouncey, DeCastro,......and......wait for it......Mike Adams, right after DeCastro. He got benched, started, and benched again. He was so bad they brought Max back. He was out of the NFL in three years. Round 2 from OSU, you would think we would have the best OL. 2 first and 2 seconds on the OLine. Thank goodness Max was decent. I don’t blame that on Colbert.

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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Steel View Post
    Best: I hope it has yet to happen but for this conversation, TP43.

    Worst: Gerod Hollimon
    Oh, you have to be playin. Wasnt Holliman a 7th round pick or something? Sure, he sucked but with relative value I would say that Tony Hills in the 4th or Bruce Davis in the 3rd are worse. Maybe Dri Archer in the 3rd is worse than wherever they got Benny Snell at RB.

    I still think it was Jarvis Jones as worse. I could see on tape he just hustled and was all effort, but no athleticism, even Gil Brandt trashed Jones. Artie Burns was all athleticism but no technique or discipline, although a lot of pundits had him highly ranked.

    Trading up for Troy is a baller move.

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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    Best picks
    1. Ben
    2. Troy

    Worst picks
    1. Jarvis Jones
    2. Limas Sweed

    Best steals
    1. AB 6th rd.
    2. Ike Taylor 4th rd.
    3. Brett Kiesel 7th rd.

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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    Best: Danny Sepulveda

    Worst: The Flowering Branch at TE

    Haley Special: Dri Archer, Baron Batch, Chris Rainey

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    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    Best: Jon Kuhn

    Worst: Ben Roethlisberger

    Winner! 2 HOF'ers there



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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    Best- TJ Troy Ben

    Worst- Senquez Golson Jarvis Jones

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    Re: Best/Worst Colbert Pick All-Time

    Quote Originally Posted by steelcityboyz View Post
    Best- TJ Troy Ben

    Worst- Senquez Golson Jarvis Jones
    I think Golson was more bad luck than bad pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Oh, you have to be playin. Wasnt Holliman a 7th round pick or something? Sure, he sucked but with relative value I would say that Tony Hills in the 4th or Bruce Davis in the 3rd are worse. Maybe Dri Archer in the 3rd is worse than wherever they got Benny Snell at RB.

    I still think it was Jarvis Jones as worse. I could see on tape he just hustled and was all effort, but no athleticism, even Gil Brandt trashed Jones. Artie Burns was all athleticism but no technique or discipline, although a lot of pundits had him highly ranked.

    Trading up for Troy is a baller move.
    I agree there are many picks that turned into worse picks. But those picks at least made sense when they got selected. Holliman was a wasted throwaway of a pick. Sort of like Colbert was surprised he had one more pick to make. Sort of like that longsnapper pick a couple drafts ago. What was his name....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertSteel View Post
    I think Golson was more bad luck than bad pick.
    Yep Golson just couldn't get through TC without a season ending injury. Bad luck, bad feet and ankles.

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