CDC Changed Vinyl Chloride Toxicity Info 11 Days Before Derailment

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https://principia-scientific.com/cdc...re-derailment/

It’s starting to seem that the CDC was aware there would be a major event involving Vinyl Chloride BEFORE the Ohio train derailment
In late January 2023, the CDC changed the toxicological profile of Vinyl Chloride on its website.
It was the first edit on the page since 2006.

After 17 years of inactivity, and just a couple weeks before the train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio, the CDC decides to update its toxicological profile on Vinyl Chloride.
The update changes the lethal exposure from 100PPM to 100,000PPM. What are the odds? — Cognitive Dissident (@STP48315) February 16, 2023

17 years later they claimed that the chemical was significantly less toxic.

This comes among a flurry of bizarre situations surrounding the Ohio train derailment.

Including a film that seemed to prophesize the situation and journalists being arrested for covering the event.
The EPA has said that the air and water are safe although they have refused independent testing.
Recently, Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune in North Carolina has become the focus of a massive class action lawsuit from those who suffered severe health issues after being in contact with contaminated water at the base.
One of the three containments that harmed those involved was Vinyl Chloride.
According to a Veteran’s attorney, Berry Law, the government knew the water at Camp Lejeune was contaminated in the 1970s but the threat wasn’t made public until 2012.
Exposure to Vinyl Chloride and the other toxic chemicals in Camp Lejeune’s water have been connected to 17 different illnesses.
Those illnesses included:
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[Orion]

and where is the pedophile kid sniffer ? oh he is in the Ukraine pretending to be under air raids offering the cross dressing homo president of Ukraine more tax payer dollars to launder.
where's his queer secretary of transportation ? busy butt plug shopping ?

[Mach1]

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A shame it could've been prevented had Trump not withdrawn the rules on trains carrying chemicals. Had that not been withdrawn, none of this would matter. lol. Nah...still Sleepy Joe's fault...

[silver & black]

A shame it could've been prevented had Trump not withdrawn the rules on trains carrying chemicals. Had that not been withdrawn, none of this would matter. lol. Nah...still Sleepy Joe's fault...

Well, old Sleepy has to take the blame for something. After all... Trump is at fault for everything that's wrong in the entire world since........................ just ask those "ladies" on the View!

[Mojouw]

A shame it could've been prevented had Trump not withdrawn the rules on trains carrying chemicals. Had that not been withdrawn, none of this would matter. lol. Nah...still Sleepy Joe's fault...

C'mon. Remember, ALL government regulation is bad. It strangles innovation and entrepreneurial spirit. That's America, man! Any removal of regulations is just plain patriotism and good common sense...not kowtowing to the donor class who bought and paid for your entire agenda...no way, Jose! Oh...wait...Jose got stopped at the border....No Way, Jesse!

[Mach1]

A shame it could've been prevented had Trump not withdrawn the rules on trains carrying chemicals. Had that not been withdrawn, none of this would matter. lol. Nah...still Sleepy Joe's fault...

That has already been debunked.

However, even if this safety rule had still been in effect, it would not have applied to the Norfolk Southern train that derailed in East Palestine, because it was not categorized as a high-hazard cargo train.

Although the Norfolk Southern train contained hazardous materials, including vinyl chloride, it did not meet the Department of Transportation’s narrow definition of a high-hazard flammable unit train in that it didn’t have at least 70 cars containing flammable materials, such as crude oil or ethanol. The chemicals it was carrying fall into a different classification not included in this definition.

The National Transportation Safety Board told PolitiFact that the Norfolk Southern train was categorized as a "general merchandise" train and it used "pneumatic brakes," or conventional air brakes.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ins-was-repea/

[Mojouw]

Oh. Ok. So it was ANOTHER episode of de-regulation that contributed. That's much better.

Remember when the railworkers were threatening to go on strike earlier and everyone basically told them to shut the hell up and get back to work....almost like they knew what they were talking about....

[Mach1]

[steelcityboyz]

That has already been debunked.



https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ins-was-repea/

Trump still living rent free in some of these posters heads lol. Trump could find a cure for cancer and they still would find a way to bitch and moan about him.

[steelreserve]

Oh. Ok. So it was ANOTHER episode of de-regulation that contributed. That's much better.

Remember when the railworkers were threatening to go on strike earlier and everyone basically told them to shut the hell up and get back to work....almost like they knew what they were talking about....

Yeah, I'm sure higher pay and adopting asinine union rules about working hours will prevent mechanical problems on trains. We should just do what unions say, that always solves everything.

Maybe it'll be like that one time when they were demanding a $15 an hour minimum wage - and all the places where they did that suddenly ended up NOT being crime-infested shitholes with homeless people and garbage everywhere, and the people there all stopped complaining that housing was unaffordable and the cost of living was too high. It was really amazing how that solved so many problems, the government is always the answer! Oh wait, I meant it actually did the opposite of that. No problem though, they can always just double down!

[Mojouw]

Yeah, I'm sure higher pay and adopting asinine union rules about working hours will prevent mechanical problems on trains. We should just do what unions say, that always solves everything.

Maybe it'll be like that one time when they were demanding a $15 an hour minimum wage - and all the places where they did that suddenly ended up NOT being crime-infested shitholes with homeless people and garbage everywhere, and the people there all stopped complaining that housing was unaffordable and the cost of living was too high. It was really amazing how that solved so many problems, the government is always the answer! Oh wait, I meant it actually did the opposite of that. No problem though, they can always just double down!

Weird...it is almost like that wasn't the only thing they were striking over....lack of regulations, dangerous train lengths and cargoes, neutered safety regulations, poor maintenance schedules...but solid job on buying the anti-labor talking points. You forgot to spice it up with a dash of "just get robots to do their jobs". Gotta keep up with the times.

[steelreserve]

Weird...it is almost like that wasn't the only thing they were striking over....lack of regulations, dangerous train lengths and cargoes, neutered safety regulations, poor maintenance schedules...but solid job on buying the anti-labor talking points. You forgot to spice it up with a dash of "just get robots to do their jobs". Gotta keep up with the times.

Ah, so it's the government's fault. In that case, Democrats need to own this. Why don't Democrats care about safety when people are DYING?

[Mojouw]

Ah, so it's the government's fault. In that case, Democrats need to own this. Why don't Democrats care about safety when people are DYING?

Sure.

Maybe all those politicos from whatever side of the aisle that let industry write their own regulations, then convinced their constituents that for profit enterprises would never fail to do the right thing, and that government interference would only ever hurt people should hold some press conferences and let people ask them about regulations now...

[steelreserve]

Sure.

Maybe all those politicos from whatever side of the aisle that let industry write their own regulations, then convinced their constituents that for profit enterprises would never fail to do the right thing, and that government interference would only ever hurt people should hold some press conferences and let people ask them about regulations now...

Oh no no no, that's not how this works. Your party is in power, you automatically take 100% of the blame, none of this saying it's the other guy's fault no matter who did what before. Those are the rules you set, so have a taste of your own medicine.

Biden's America. Unsafe infrastructure is poisoning whole towns. This was a Democrat-created problem and Democrats don't care, they do nothing while people are DYING. There's your narrative, cultist.

[Mojouw]

Oh no no no, that's not how this works. Your party is in power, you automatically take 100% of the blame, none of this saying it's the other guy's fault no matter who did what before. Those are the rules you set, so have a taste of your own medicine.

Biden's America. Unsafe infrastructure is poisoning whole towns. This was a Democrat-created problem and Democrats don't care, they do nothing while people are DYING. There's your narrative, cultist.

[steelreserve]

Well if you want to be honest about it, Democrats had full control over the legislative process but did nothing to change any of it. So either it wasn't especially important to them, or they are just too incompetent to accomplish things like that. Either way, their fault.

Speaking of which, I wonder why we haven't been hearing so much about mass shootings or police beating up black guys. It's not like those problems suddenly went away. But for some reason, now every time it happens you hear about it for a day or two and then everyone shuts up about it. Yet just a short time ago, these were critical threats, a matter of life and death. I guess all of that outrage ended up in the same place as wherever all those white supremacists went that you used to hear about all the time.

[Mojouw]

Well if you want to be honest about it, Democrats had full control over the legislative process but did nothing to change any of it. So either it wasn't especially important to them, or they are just too incompetent to accomplish things like that. Either way, their fault.

Speaking of which, I wonder why we haven't been hearing so much about mass shootings or police beating up black guys. It's not like those problems suddenly went away. But for some reason, now every time it happens you hear about it for a day or two and then everyone shuts up about it. Yet just a short time ago, these were critical threats, a matter of life and death. I guess all of that outrage ended up in the same place as wherever all those white supremacists went that you used to hear about all the time.

[steelreserve]

What better way to say "I've got nothing" than posting dumb pictures. You're in danger of becoming a mental giant on the same level as Tom. Well, guess you win this one.

Liberals - quick to take credit for anything and everything, allergic to blame for things that are their fault, and convinced that going "LALALALALA" means they won the argument.

[Mojouw]

What better way to say "I've got nothing" than posting dumb pictures. You're in danger of becoming a mental giant on the same level as Tom. Well, guess you win this one.

Liberals - quick to take credit for anything and everything, allergic to blame for things that are their fault, and convinced that going "LALALALALA" means they won the argument.

Deregulation on safety and common sense is always a bad idea. Private industry has repeatedly demonstrated that they are terrible at all of that. That was my only point and you have woven a series of nonsense talking points out of it. So....there's an endless supply of these on the internets.

[Dwinsgames]

A shame it could've been prevented had Trump not withdrawn the rules on trains carrying chemicals. Had that not been withdrawn, none of this would matter. lol. Nah...still Sleepy Joe's fault...

probably should get your facts straight before making a foolish comment like that .........

those rules were made but never installed during the Obama administration Trump didn't withdraw them he didn't do anything with them at all Just like Obama didn't , just like Biden didn't but ohhh orange man bad gtfo with your derangement syndrome bullshit

[Dwinsgames]

for the record I have a dog in this fight , East Palestine Ohio is 10.9 miles as the crow flies away from my home according to alexa... this is a BIG DEAL , I have family even closer and friends that live in that small town!!

[steelreserve]

Deregulation on safety and common sense is always a bad idea. Private industry has repeatedly demonstrated that they are terrible at all of that. That was my only point and you have woven a series of nonsense talking points out of it. So....there's an endless supply of these on the internets.

Ok, here are all the nonsense talking points condensed into a format digestible by morons like you. When Republicans are in power, every single disaster, weird accident, or random lunatic is their fault, and it is the red-faced screaming end of the world. When Democrats are in power, every single disaster, weird accident, or random lunatic is Republicans' fault or is downplayed like it's no big deal.

Like, ok, according to you, regulation is the answer to train wrecks. Well, what the fuck did your guys do about it if it was so important? Nothing, just bitch about it after the fact that it was someone else's fault. Have some fuckin standards, man.

[Mach1]

Ok, here are all the nonsense talking points condensed into a format digestible by morons like you. When Republicans are in power, every single disaster, weird accident, or random lunatic is their fault, and it is the red-faced screaming end of the world. When Democrats are in power, every single disaster, weird accident, or random lunatic is Republicans' fault or is downplayed like it's no big deal.

Like, ok, according to you, regulation is the answer to train wrecks. Well, what the fuck did your guys do about it if it was so important? Nothing, just bitch about it after the fact that it was someone else's fault. Have some fuckin standards, man.

Don't you know the lefts answer is always MORE government. And when they fuck that up it's always someone else's fault. Orange man bad.

[Dwinsgames]

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probably should get your facts straight before making a foolish comment like that .........

those rules were made but never installed during the Obama administration Trump didn't withdraw them he didn't do anything with them at all Just like Obama didn't , just like Biden didn't but ohhh orange man bad gtfo with your derangement syndrome bullshit

Oh imagine that, a fact check on something that's not real. Not much unlike a lot of the other foolish garbage posted in the soapbox. ANyone can post garbage in these forums. lol. But yes, orange man bad and his followers are very weak minded...

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If only this were true...it would be awesome!!

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the problem with most of you here weighing in on this topic is your ONLY source of what is going on is the national media ....

difference being is here we are living it , we have citizens reporting locally on what they actually are seeing and experiencing , we see the photos of places we have actually been so when the dead fish are laying there we recognize the location and know it is real ....

all thew while you are living in make believe land that everything is going to be ok because your Guberment says so ...........

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you have been sold a bill of goods !!

we have very few birds 10 miles away , we have dead animals , wildlife is perishing we just wait and see as to when birds , fish , rabbits , chickens and even deer become people .....

but carry on asshats after all living 1000 miles away gives you a birdseye fucking view ...

I'm out

[Mojouw]

Ok, here are all the nonsense talking points condensed into a format digestible by morons like you. When Republicans are in power, every single disaster, weird accident, or random lunatic is their fault, and it is the red-faced screaming end of the world. When Democrats are in power, every single disaster, weird accident, or random lunatic is Republicans' fault or is downplayed like it's no big deal.

Like, ok, according to you, regulation is the answer to train wrecks. Well, what the fuck did your guys do about it if it was so important? Nothing, just bitch about it after the fact that it was someone else's fault. Have some fuckin standards, man.

Keep making up an argument that no one but you is having. You seem to be winning...so good for you?

I have no idea who removed what regulations when...but I do know that the current state of rail and basically every other industry to regulate itself is not the answer. People are safer when government enforces standards and accountability on industry. Shareholders and boards are historically incredibly bad at doing that.

Been my position since day one on anything to do with regulation. Hasn't changed since the Reagan administration...

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The ability to have an argument all in your head is pretty cool. Who said it wasn't real and no big deal? Like no one anywhere is saying that...I mean I guess the algorithm told you that people are saying that so you would get big mad...

[steelreserve]

Keep making up an argument that no one but you is having. You seem to be winning...so good for you?

I have no idea who removed what regulations when...but I do know that the current state of rail and basically every other industry to regulate itself is not the answer. People are safer when government enforces standards and accountability on industry. Shareholders and boards are historically incredibly bad at doing that.

Been my position since day one on anything to do with regulation. Hasn't changed since the Reagan administration...

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The ability to have an argument all in your head is pretty cool. Who said it wasn't real and no big deal? Like no one anywhere is saying that...I mean I guess the algorithm told you that people are saying that so you would get big mad...

Yes, you're right, it's all in my head.

Sure.

Maybe all those politicos from whatever side of the aisle that let industry write their own regulations, then convinced their constituents that for profit enterprises would never fail to do the right thing, and that government interference would only ever hurt people should hold some press conferences and let people ask them about regulations now...

Oh wait, what's that? It's right up above on this very same page, you say? How weird. It's almost like someone is doing mental gymnastics so severe he can't even remember what he said himself.

You're useless, man. Just take the L as usual and move on. You won't even lose face, you've got a pretty well-established track record of just reciting liberal talking points as if from a list and then doing all kinds of acrobatics to dodge the fact that all your ideas are just shitty. I really don't know why you even bother having political opinions, you're just so bad at it.

[Mojouw]

Yes, you're right, it's all in my head.



Oh wait, what's that? It's right up above on this very same page, you say? How weird. It's almost like someone is doing mental gymnastics so severe he can't even remember what he said himself.

You're useless, man. Just take the L as usual and move on. You won't even lose face, you've got a pretty well-established track record of just reciting liberal talking points as if from a list and then doing all kinds of acrobatics to dodge the fact that all your ideas are just shitty. I really don't know why you even bother having political opinions, you're just so bad at it.

You mean the part where I specifically indicated "whatever side of the aisle"? But....yeah I clearly just blamed Republicans or whatever. Reading is hard. I might suggest