no its G5Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson
So, over 10 million doses have been so far,. Anybody heard of somebody turning into a monkey yet? Maybe nobody knows, because Bill Gates has control over their mind and has commanded them not to inform anybody.
Just thought I would check in to see what the latest word is on this "vaccine warning".
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It is the Pfizer vaccine.
Well you see, there was this one lady somewhere who had a bad reaction to it, facial tics or something.
So by liberal logic, that proves it's systemic, it's everywhere, and you should automatically do whatever I tell you to without question, whether it's related to vaccines or not, you racist science denier.
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Good thing that I am not a Liberal then....because I read about the 4 cases of Bells Palsy in approximately 38,000 volunteers in the trial of the Pfizer vaccine. Its within the normal range of people that have Bells Palsy in the general population.
But, then how did you find information about vaccine, election fraud, etc? Just blindly following the right wing talking points that you find from the far right media and the Barnes and Noble Law firm?
My neighbor after his second shot.So, over 10 million doses have been so far,. Anybody heard of somebody turning into a monkey yet? Maybe nobody knows, because Bill Gates has control over their mind and has commanded them not to inform anybody.
Just thought I would check in to see what the latest word is on this "vaccine warning".
But do you really, truly, and completely understand what the number 4 represents? What it means out of 38K?Good thing that I am not a Liberal then....because I read about the 4 cases of Bells Palsy in approximately 38,000 volunteers in the trial of the Pfizer vaccine. Its within the normal range of people that have Bells Palsy in the general population.
But, then how did you find information about vaccine, election fraud, etc? Just blindly following the right wing talking points that you find from the far right media and the Barnes and Noble Law firm?
I know I don't. I only understand it as a tool of the liberal deep state to indoctrinate me with the gay agenda and realize their Orwellian plot for world domination through shutting down Parler.
All kidding aside... do you condone the shutting down of Parler?
Why, of course we know what it means. A few isolated cases of something were discovered, so clearly that means it's systemic. It must be a huge problem. The whole system needs to be torn down, right?
Oh, sorry, that's only when a freakishly rare occurrence supports a LIBERAL point of view. THEN it means it's a huge systemic problem.
Well, good thing your 101 IQ friend isn't a liberal, and only supports liberal ideas using insufferable liberal rhetoric, and has the textbook insufferable liberal personality. Because if he didn't keep denying he was a liberal, people might get the wrong idea. Phew! Glad we cleared that up.
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What's to condone or not condone? Amazon decided they didn't want their business anymore. Whether I or you like it or not, that's the free market, right?
If Parler wants to be a player, then build out their own infrastructure and then they can do whatever they darn well please. If you piggyback on someone elses stuff, you roll the dice on whether they continue to provide you access.
See my longer reply below -- but I don't know -- likely I'm fine with it. It will just come back shortly with some new lawyer language drawn up in the user agreement and then they will make a big show of tossing a few wingnuts overboard.
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Ive never done Twitter, facebook, parler, or instagram. I do have tiktok to view some topics. I mentioned that because I really could care less what those sites do because it doesn’t effect me. would I be disappointed if tiktok took down pro gop or trump video, yes and I’d get rid of the app because of it.legally you might be right, we will see. what’s the difference of a baker not wanting to bake cake for gay wedding, or business not serving due to gender or ethnicity? I personally don’t like any of those scenarios, but there has to be level playing field.
Yeah, I don't do hardly any social media either, so I could really care less. Legally, I have no idea...not a lawyer or even within shouting distance of one...so who knows?
I agree with the level playing field thing and in recent years it has gotten inconsistent. I remember the baker and caterers and then the whole thing with what business had to do or not do with birth control with insurance or whatever.
All I can really say is that no "brand name" web-hosting service has anything to do with Stormfront, the KKK, or like child porn enthusiasts. And no one is suing on their behalf. No before everyone gets their selves all worked up, I am NOT calling GOP or Trump supporters Nazis, racists, or pedophiles. Not even in a snarky way. All I mean is that we, as a society, have determined that some stuff just doesn't have a place in the public square and do not even think about private companies wanting nothing to do with it. So I am still trying to work through how I feel about Parler and others being "delisted".
I think that I am wavering towards being largely fine with it. Basically because, you can still get that side of the viewpoint out into the public square on any number of platforms. It isn't so much that private companies ran away from political speech, it is more that they ran away from people advocating using politicians for target practice and specifically calling for the deaths of other human beings. Seriously, some of the things that were being posted through Parler (and to be totally fair other services) was just vile.
But, to be perfectly honest about it, I also have zero stake in it. I barely know what Parler is, let alone actually care about it.
I do think that the whole thing raises interesting issues about what the internet really is versus what it could or should be. However, what is interesting is that now you have people that sleep beside copies of Ayn Rand starting to talk about government regulation...so strange bedfellows and all that...
OK, but what did he look like before? For all we know this is pretty much the same.My neighbor after his second shot.
Sorry, I ran out of crickets to serve to the lizard people that are secretly infiltrating the world thru 5G, so am not entirely up to speed.
I didnt realize that Orwell wrote about Parler 70 years ago. Are nut jobs still living their life based upon a science fiction novel from the 1940's??
Amazon's status as a liability-exempt provider, for one thing. Kicking people off your servers because you don't like what they're saying ... Well, you just made yourself a publisher, my friend, not a neutral infrastructure provider.
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Well it seems there is that group and then the group that lives their lives based on a novel published in the 1950's. But I am not sure if the Orwell folks and the Ayn Rand folks are still talking to one another?Sorry, I ran out of crickets to serve to the lizard people that are secretly infiltrating the world thru 5G, so am not entirely up to speed.
I didnt realize that Orwell wrote about Parler 70 years ago. Are nut jobs still living their life based upon a science fiction novel from the 1940's??
Without Parler and QAnon drops I am not sure what to believe...
Why, yes, in fact. Liberals have been using it as an instruction manual for quite some time now.I didnt realize that Orwell wrote about Parler 70 years ago. Are nut jobs still living their life based upon a science fiction novel from the 1940's??
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And people have been making that argument for a long time now. The courts can sort it out. But what I honestly don't understand is what is the issue with a publisher not wanting to publish something? Like if I had a book about how I wanted to start an amusement park and ranch focused on having sex with ferrets in the preinternet days all typed up and I shopped it around to publishers and they all turned me down...would that have been a problem?
If a private entity (publisher or not) doesn't like what I have to say...isn't that their choice?
I think you confuse my being successful, with being liberal. If that is the case, then maybe you should adopt some liberal ideals instead of being miserable and blaming others for your problems?
I never took a hand out from government, never benefitted from any programs, believe in less govt involvement and more private enterprise, more capitalism. I own guns. I goto church (although not as much as when younger). Earned everything on my own, paid back my student loans and succeeded personally, professionally and financially no matter who was in government. The only viewpoint that I have which seems to conflict is that I believe there is racial inequality which should be stopped, although I dont believe racism is a conservative value, but I seem to see a lot of racists support the former president.
Seems like you seem to think if you vote for the right party, they will make your life easier, rather than rely on your own personal initiative to create success. Seems like more of a socialist viewpoint on things than I have.
i don't support shutting down parler, it's easier to crack down on domestic terrorists if they're congregating in one place
The issue is that you cannot claim to be one thing while being another, and continue to reap the benefits of an infrastructure provider if you are not acting as one.
If AT&T decided to turn off your phone service because you held unpopular opinions that you might talk about over their mobile network, maybe they are allowed to do that or maybe not - but then they don't get the same treatment as a neutral utility provider. That is what Amazon and other web infrastructure owners are claiming - they're just the wires through which information is flowing, they can't be held responsible for what goes through those wires. Well ok, but then you can't filter the information.
Not to mention, where public speech is concerned, any active suppression is a negative no matter who is doing it or what the reason.
Uh, I'm definitely not confusing any of that. I don't think you're probably even very successful, you just have a SUPER inflated sense of self-worth and feel the need to broadcast it everywhere.
I mean, you've created an entire fictional world in which everyone else is "miserable" because they tell you that you're a condescending prick with a shitty personality. You repeat this over and over. I got news for you, they're not calling you that because they're miserable.
With that as the baseline, how likely is it that all of these great things you say about yourself are true? My guess is about as likely as dying from the coronavirus vaccine, if you get my drift.
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Fair enough. I am not really arguing for one thing or the other - just talking out loud. But some public speech has already been restricted. The classic hypothetical is shouting "Fire" in an public space. We, meaning the US, already has rules/laws regulating that. Extending that regulatory (likely not the proper word) concept to a digital "public gathering" is not exactly a massive leap in thinking.
However, it does need to be acknowledged that we,here meaning society, do not really have realistic and up to date laws/rules/regulations for the internet. Overall, there is a great deal of things that need to be worked out and realistically thought through. No chance we (again, here, meaning society as a whole) actually can pull that conversation off.
"Terrorism and social media refers to the use of social media platforms to radicalize and recruit violence and non-violent extremists."
The reason for removing Trump from Twitter, facebook, etc., is simple. He is using social media to radicalize and recruit violent and non-violent extremists. He has moved into the realm of terrorists organizations. It would be foolish to allow him to continue to use that platform.
Digital Counterterrorism/Fighting Jihadists Online:
https://bipartisanpolicy.org/wp-cont...rterrorism.pdf
Sad thing, is that in life we get what we think about the most. You appear to be negative all the time, so life is probably a challenge for you. But if you change your thinking, you can turn it around.
Truth is....all I say is 100% true. Happily married for decades. Healthy and productive kids. House and 4 cars all paid for. Have a great job that I enjoy and pays well. Contribute to charities to help the less fortunate. Coach youth sports. Mentor younger people at work who are interested in achieving success. "As you climb the ladder, bring people with you".
Lots of people in the world doing better than I am, but I am happy for them, as there is no benefit in being hateful or jealous towards them. You should try it, as it feels better than being weighed down with all that hate. Also, waiting for the government you vote for to solve your problems is getting you nowhere.
Whatever you say, boss.
The thing is, people who are really happy and successful don't usually have to go around constantly telling everybody how happy and successful they are. I mean, maybe they do if they're just unbelievably self-absorbed, but either way, not much to be proud of.
Still at it with the fantasies of everybody else being miserable in life because they don't like you. Really seems like the mark of an extremely insecure individual. Like, I hate to disappoint you, but I am probably just as successful as anyone here, and perfectly happy in life - I just don't feel the need to boast about it all the time. I'm not "weighed down with hate," I just don't like YOU, because you happen to really suck.
Similarly, I'm not waiting for the government to solve my problems (especially since you are inventing all of these problems in your mind) ... however, I do resent the government attempting to create new problems that wouldn't exist otherwise. It follows that I also resent people who encourage that by their own misguided actions. I'm not jealous of you at all - my god, I would hate to be you. Like, I can't even imagine being that way. Thank God I'm not.
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Back to the thread topic ... apparently according to, you know, scientists and stuff, lockdowns are not only illegal but also completely ineffective. Whoopsie.
So, who knew, this was never done for any disease in the past because it was a stupid idea.Stanford study: Lockdowns have no significant effect in reducing COVID-19, may even spread it
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'we fail to find an additional benefit of stay-at-home orders and business closures'
No evidence of lockdown efficacy ‘in any country’
Based upon results drawn from countries where very restrictive NPIs were used, compared to countries with only light restrictions, the study found “no clear, significant beneficial effect of mrNPIs on case growth in any country.”
As to whether the spring lockdowns of 2020, i.e. mrNPIs, brought infection rates down, the study wrote: “there is no evidence that more restrictive non-pharmaceutical interventions (“lockdowns”) contributed substantially to bending the curve of new cases in England, France, Germany, Iran, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain, or the United States in early 2020.” The authors admitted that whilst “modest decreases in daily growth” could not be “excluded in a few countries, the possibility of large decreases in daily growth due to mrNPIs is incompatible with the accumulated data.”
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/st...even-spread-it
Criminal charges for those who ordered lockdowns of any kind, then?
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I'm happy for you that things are going so well.
Some of your posts here seem to indicate something different, but glad its all working out. Maybe the vaccine rollout will all become more efficient and things can get back to normal, since it seems there arent many real adverse reactions to it being reported.
Why, how gracious. Really, you're such a gracious and humble person. What could have ever caused me to doubt that.I'm happy for you that things are going so well.
Some of your posts here seem to indicate something different, but glad its all working out. Maybe the vaccine rollout will all become more efficient and things can get back to normal, since it seems there arent many real adverse reactions to it being reported.
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"We evaluate the effects on epidemic case growth of more restrictive NPIs (mrNPIs), above and beyond those of less restrictive NPIs (lrNPIs)."
So they did not assess a lack of lockdowns. They assessed two different types. It appears that the two countries they used for lrNPIs were Sweden and South Korea.
Now, for instance, South Korea said you can go to school and work, but we are tracking your 24/7/365 movements on your cell phone. If you come into contact/proximity with someone else who tested positive, the government is showing up at your house and testing you for COVID and potentially isolating you from the rest of the population.
So, you know...that is how one of the study "less restrictive NPIs" were implemented. Is that what anyone wants?
I am not able to comment further on this study and assessment because it is behind a paywall and I am too lazy to log-in to my work account and see if I have access.
Are you sure everything is OK with you?? Are you sure you are just saying things are OK, but the pandemic stress is getting to you?? If there is, you CAN get help you know...you are not alone.
Maybe a vaccination will make you feel better.
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