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    Question Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    It certainly would not have hurt getting him in the game.

    21 Yards total rushing is absolutely pathetic !

    Time to get Derek in the game more.
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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    When he's in the game it's not that good

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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    This week when he was used it wasn’t as a lead blocking FB. They have him doing other stuff.


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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    I too would like to see Watt play more. He is a talented fullback. I was thinking why not, as a sub-package, use Watt and running back, along with two Wr's and Eric Eabron. You say why Ebron since he is a poor blocker? Well, you could still throw out of that package pretty well, while still having a better chance to run the ball. Ebron's droppsies aside he is still a mismatch for most defenders. We are going to live or die with our 4 and 5 receiver sets, but we need to diversify the offense.

    I think there are a few problems to using Watt. First, Ben probably doesn't want to run an offense with a full back. Second, i'm not a football expert but I'm willing to believe that it is more complicated to effectively add a full back to the offense than most of us think. It probably changes the blocking schemes in the run game. Remember there were no ota's or mini camps. Watt was hurt for a number of weeks and covid rescheduling has killed practice time.

    All that leads up to mostly having to stick with what you have been doing scheme and personnel wise.

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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    This week when he was used it wasn’t as a lead blocking FB. They have him doing other stuff.
    They need to use him as a lead blocker on short yardage/goal line situations.
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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    I miss John L Williams. He could block, catch, and run. Too bad FB's are extinct.



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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post
    I miss John L Williams. He could block, catch, and run. Too bad FB's are extinct.
    The Steelers were 3-4 when Cowher added more John L Williams into the offense. Voila!... a Super Bowl appearance was the end result.

    Really. I remember Cowher pointing that as the turning point in their season.

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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Kreider wasn’t bad either, until Arians got rid of him, saying, “we don’t use fullbacks”.

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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Tim “The Bus Driver” Lester

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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Tomlin answered that in his presser yesterday. Questions start at 7:20

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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    The Steelers were 3-4 when Cowher added more John L Williams into the offense. Voila!... a Super Bowl appearance was the end result.

    Really. I remember Cowher pointing that as the turning point in their season.
    With most all teams going to Pass Happy Offenses, it's time to take advantage of this and bring back big, bruiser RBs/FBs.

    Anyone got the Bus's # ?
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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    They need something for short yardage why the hell not get a Watt involved?

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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
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    Even Dan Kreider was effective!


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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Cause he's not John Kuhn, with him, we win 10 super bowls at least. Probably 15.

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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Maybe he is just not that good like the Edmunds brother RB.

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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post
    I miss John L Williams. He could block, catch, and run. Too bad FB's are extinct.
    Me too! We don't run the ball enough to need a FB. If Derek was a pass catching threat, that would be different.

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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Quote Originally Posted by steelcityboyz View Post
    They need something for short yardage why the hell not get a Watt involved?
    Sure, we need help with running the football... in any capacity.

    Watt was in there for the goal line attempts. He missed his block on a couple of those trys.
    He was motioning from side to side, and Ebron missed a block when he motioned too far out as well.
    Neither were effective.

    So, maybe we need more power I-Formation to get him moving forward instead of sideways.

    I think the more sucessful "motions" earlier in the year were the jet sweeps with Claypool. Even as a fake.
    Guess those aren't fooling anyone since the film is out.

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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Uhhh.....there is a chance Watt just isn't very good? Here are the Chargers rushing offense ranks (based on total rush yards) for the years he played for them: 26, 24, 15, and 28.

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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Uhhh.....there is a chance Watt just isn't very good? Here are the Chargers rushing offense ranks (based on total rush yards) for the years he played for them: 26, 24, 15, and 28.
    Right. So, if he's mediocre at blocking and not much of a recieving threat, his main purpose is on special teams... where he seems to be most efficient.
    Which we have other guys on the roster for this very reason as well. ie, Dangerfield.

    My point was maybe he'd be better running downhill instead of laterally to his blocks.

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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelMember View Post
    Right. So, if he's mediocre at blocking and not much of a recieving threat, his main purpose is on special teams... where he seems to be most efficient.
    Which we have other guys on the roster for this very reason as well. ie, Dangerfield.

    My point was maybe he'd be better running downhill instead of laterally to his blocks.
    That makes sense. I guess I was just kinda questioning if the answer to the entire thread is pretty simple...Derek Watt is an above average special teams player but a mediocre FB. I don't think that inserting a mediocre FB into the line-up is going to "fix" much of anything. I mean, sure, why not try it? But it isn't like Watt is some sledgehammer just rotting away on the bench...again...no idea if I am right...just a thought.

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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Yep. It's probably why we already see so much more of Hawkins as the extra lineman in the power package.

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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    I don't think they have a good answer

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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Actually, when Nix was HEALTHY, he was pretty effective. And he was king on ST, but damn, the man couldn’t stay healthy. I loved the year when he had two yards of offense and two TDs.

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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Whatever makes TJ happy.


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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Uhhh.....there is a chance Watt just isn't very good? Here are the Chargers rushing offense ranks (based on total rush yards) for the years he played for them: 26, 24, 15, and 28.
    Why did we pick him up then ? Just to please TJ ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by katmandu View Post
    Why did we pick him up then ? Just to please TJ ?
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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Uhhh.....there is a chance Watt just isn't very good? Here are the Chargers rushing offense ranks (based on total rush yards) for the years he played for them: 26, 24, 15, and 28.
    And, maybe the Steelers are just as bad:

    2019: 29th
    2018: 31st
    2017: 20th

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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Quote Originally Posted by teegre View Post
    And, maybe the Steelers are just as bad:

    2019: 29th
    2018: 31st
    2017: 20th
    Yup. It wasn't an argument that the team is fine or whatever as is. The offense is mediocre at best. I actually think it is being unmasked as a pretty poor offense that non-crappy defenses can stymie.

    But I also, at the same time, argue that Watt isn't some magic key to running the ball. I think you and others mentioned it...Dotson might have more of an impact than Watt.

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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Dotson might have more of an impact than Watt.

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    Re: Why isn't Derek Watt being used more often ?

    This is the aspect of the game we miss Munchak the most.

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