Or maybe Crash? At least he wrote his own material!Originally Posted by tube517
Where is Tee Tee when you need him? At least he was entertaining.
Or maybe Crash? At least he wrote his own material!Where is Tee Tee when you need him? At least he was entertaining.
Hippo farts, bad poker playing and .007 games in cool shades!Where is Tee Tee when you need him? At least he was entertaining.
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The funny thing in this thread is that before the playoffs he was talking about how much better than the playoffs record of Sean Payton was better than Tomlin and a home playoffs loss later, Payton had an 8-7 playoff record (4-6 since 2010 ) which is the same as Tomlin.
John Harbaugh is also 1-3 in the playoffs in the last 7 years since Brian Billick players like Ray Lewis or Ed reed left or retired!
Andy Reid was also 1-7 in the playoffs in 2008 to 2017 and it includes some terrible losses like in 2013 and 2017
My point is that every coach can have difficult moments in their career and it can last a long time.But not the reason to fired the coach at every occasion.
Some in Pittsburgh also wanted Mike Sullivan in the NHL to be fired last year despite the Penguins being the only team to win back to back stanley cup in the last 20 years in this league not too long ago....
If Belichick went 30-0 without Brady or if Belichick went 3-27 without Brady, it has no relevance to whether any other coach is any good.
SUMMATION:
False correlation
The patriots way will never works with others teams which is a big reason why no HC who had been assistant coach with Belichick have been good as head coach in the nfl.
Ex-Pats corner: Time in NE not enjoyable
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Saban buried the Dolphins as head coach when he pursed all the college players he could not get coaching there. Apparently he knows more about NCAA than the NFL and the Fins were already on their last leg. Joe Gibbs was a better coach than him or Belichick. He won SBs with 3 different QBs and didn't need to cheat to win.
All Defense!
Saban also choose Daunte Culpepper over Drew Brees in 2006...Culpepper is out of the NFL for at least 10 years!
The art of coaching...or arrogance!!!!
So far,not good without Brady for BB....2-4 this year 21-23 in NE without Brady and 57-67 in his career for BB
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The roster talent is on a whole different level when you compare the two.
These guys are putting up major points and still have AB to come...lol.
I agree but Belichick is also their GM....
Exactly. Besides, whatever happened to the notion that Belichick is such a football mastermind that he can pretty much put any group of jabronis out on the field and win with them?
Billy B and the Gang got screwed by anyone who was any good opting out on their defense. That and just missing over and over and over again on WRs.
So the salary cap made you bad at drafting?
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Well, you could say, two Lombardi trophies in 40 years. How good are the Steelers at drafting?
Arguably better than the Patriots.
No one is questioning the Pats SB success. Not their great run of winning. But their uneven at best track record in the draft has them playing without Tom Brady and a pretty bare cupboard of overall roster talent.
The salary cap has nothing to do with the Pats issues. Half their defense opting out and a lack of weapons on offense might be the core of it.
Again, how good is the drafting ability of a team that only wins two SBs in 40 years? That is the only yardstick that matters.
But anyway, we'll see.
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BTW, every year there are teams in the NFL that are at the top of the league on paper. On paper.
Again, not sure what your objecting to.
This article did the research.
https://theathletic.com/2171570/2020...shared_article
The Pats have drafted less talent than the rest of the league over the last 20 years on offense. 3 Pro Bowl players on offense compared to a league average of 7. Without Brady to elevate the offense, it isn't working as well.
I wasn't aware this was controversial. Their last home grown star was Jamie Collins. That's seven years ago.
Actually I'm objecting to the fact that the Patriots are 2 and 5.
In all seriousness. BB drafts who he wants to coach. Now that doesn't excuse his lack of talent at the WR position, but everywhere else, I have no problem with his choices. How many all pros you have drafted is meaningless if you're not winning SBs. It is a team game after all.
This thread has nothing to do with the steelers....
This last bit in this thread has to do with any team that drafts and what benchmark you use to gauge how effective your drafting is? .I'm saying how many guys you draft that go to the pro bowl isn't as good gauge as some might think it is. Are the Steelers arguably better than the Patriots at drafting? That depend on how you gauge it.
For the most part, yes
You say the steelers have only won 2 super bowl in the last 40 years (we can also say in the last 15 years, but that's another story) but during this period they were 10 times in the AFC title game (9 since 1994 ), so they were a super bowl contender quite often even though they didn't have a franchise QB until 2004.
The Pats are like 60 games under .500 in their history without Brady....They are the Chicago Bulls of the NFL.
That keeps asses in the seats and that's all. However, in all honesty, that is the name of the game. I'd rather suffer for 35 years though and then go through the last 20 years that we went through here then be a bridesmaid again, and again, and again. And a significant portion of that 20 year run was due to Coach Belichick and the talent he put on the field besides Brady.
see: the Steelers in 2012-2015
Had the Steelers won the Super Bowl in 2010, a lot of those aging defenders would have retired. Instead, Colbert & Khan had to mortgage the future in order to win “one more” with those expensive veterans.
Drafting a few All Pros on cheap rookie contracts (e.g. Bell, Bryant) helped them stay afloat, but they were up against the cap for quite a few years there.
That said, missing on players like Jarvis Jones, asks also losing Senquez Golson and Ryan Shazier to injury kept them from ever getting over the top. They remained “good”, but glaring holes kept them from being true Super Bowl contenders.
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Patriots Try Out Failed Steelers Receiver
If you're a receiver and can walk and chew gum at the same time the Patriots should be trying you out.
How many coaching geniuses were carried by an elite QB?
Add, subtract, pick and choose.
https://www.profootballhof.com/top-1...rback-tandems/1.Bill Belichick and Tom Brady, New England Patriots Years – 18 (2000-2017)
Regular Season Record – 196-55, .781%
Postseason Record – 25-9, .735%
Division Championships – 15
Conference Championships – 7
Super Bowl/League Championships – 5
2.Paul Brown and Otto Graham, Cleveland Browns (AAFC/NFL)
Years – 10 (1946-1955)
Regular Season Record – 105-17-4, .861%
Postseason Record – 9-3, .750%
Division Championships – N/A*
Conference Championships – 10
Super Bowl/League Championships – 7
3.Vince Lombardi and Bart Starr, Green Bay Packers
Years – 9 (1959-1967)
Regular Season Record – 77-23-4, .770%
Postseason Record – 9-1-0, .900%
Division Championships – N/A*
Conference Championships – 6
Super Bowl/League Championships – 7
4.Chuck Noll and Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh Steelers
Years – 14 (1970-1983)
Regular Season Record – 107-51-0, .677%
Postseason Record – 14-5-0, .737%
Division Championships – 8
Conference Championships – 4
Super Bowl/League Championships – 4
5.Tom Landry and Roger Staubach, Dallas Cowboys
Years – 11 (1969-1979)
Regular Season Record – 85-29-0, .736%
Postseason Record – 13-7-0, .650%
Division Championships – 8
Conference Championships – 5
Super Bowl Championships – 2
6.Bill Walsh and Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers
Years 10 (1979-1988)
Regular Season Record – 75-36-0, .676%
Postseason Record – 10-4-0, .714%
Division Championships – 6
Conference Championships – 3
Super Bowl Championships – 3
7.Mike Tomlin and Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers
Years – 11 (2007-2017)
Regular Season Record – 106-32-0, .768%
Postseason Record – 8-6-0, .571%
Division Championships – 6
Conference Championships – 2
Super Bowl Championships – 1
8.Don Shula and Dan Marino, Miami Dolphins
Years – 13 (1983-1995)
Regular Season Record – 116-68-0, .630%
Postseason Record – 6-7-0, .462%
Division Championships – 5
Conference Championships – 1
Super Bowl Championships – 0
9.Marv Levy and Jim Kelly, Buffalo Bills
Years – 11 (1986-1996)
Regular Season Record – 99-52-0, .656%
Postseason Record – 9-8-0, .529%
Division Championships – 6
Conference Championships – 4
Super Bowl Championships – 0
10.Tony Dungy and Peyton Manning, Indianapolis Colts
Years – 7 (2002-2008)
Regular Season Record – 85-27-0, .758%
Postseason Record – 7-6-0, .538%
Division Championships – 5
Conference Championships – 1
Super Bowl Championships – 1
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