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    Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    It wasn’t that long ago that Matt Canada was viewed as one of the most innovative offensive football minds in the country.

    Now that he’s with the Pittsburgh Steelers, Mike Tomlin hinted at taking advantage of it.

    “He’ll work hand-in-hand with all the quarterbacks and help them in their growth and development and readiness for the season,” Tomlin said of Canada, who was hired as quarterbacks coach in January. “And not only that, he’s going to bring some fresh ideas to us as a coaches collective – and probably bring some schematic ideas, as well.”

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    What will be the change or the new on offense?

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    Re: Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    This can only be good news. I believe it's reasonable to say that the biggest need for this team is some new ideas injected into the offense

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    Re: Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    Quote Originally Posted by st33lersguy View Post
    This can only be good news. I believe it's reasonable to say that the biggest need for this team is some new ideas injected into the offense
    100% agree

    I don't know what will be new on this offense but I can't wait.Maybe some on this board know more that me that what was the style of the offense of Canada in College.

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    Re: Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    So Matt Canada will do what Ben tells him? Lol


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    Re: Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    OC

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    Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    OC after Ben retires, face it, this is Ben’s offense right now, Canada “working with the young QBs” means he will be their OC when whoever that is is going to start. So adding a few wrinkles to the scheme just gets the other Off weapons transitioning sooner.

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    Re: Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorhead View Post
    OC after Ben retires, face it, this is Ben’s offense right now, Canada “working with the young QBs” means he will be their OC when whoever that is is going to start. So adding a few wrinkles to the scheme just gets the other Off weapons transitioning sooner.
    What team has a HOF caliber QB that doesn't cater the entire offense to that QB? Seattle. That's all I can think of.

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    Re: Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    Quote Originally Posted by Rotorhead View Post
    OC after Ben retires, face it, this is Ben’s offense right now, Canada “working with the young QBs” means he will be their OC when whoever that is is going to start. So adding a few wrinkles to the scheme just gets the other Off weapons transitioning sooner.
    Of course, I know they will not change their entire offense but Canada could still add things that this offense haven't

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    Re: Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    Here some idea…

    Enter Matt Canada. Canada’s schemes have been regarded by many in the coaching profession as some of the best in the business. Specifically, Canada has been lauded for his use of pre-snap movement, the jet sweep concept and for finding ways to tailor his offensive schemes to the strengths of his personnel. At Northern Illinois, for example, he built the offense around dual-threat quarterback Chandler Harnish, who passed for over 3,000 yards and ran for over 1,000 in one season under Canada. At Wisconsin, he assembled a power attack behind a huge offensive line and their trio of stud running backs. At NC State, he turned Brissett into a pro prospect and helped then-sophomore Jaylen Samuels have a breakout season. At Pitt, he built a record-setting offense around Peterman and James Conner, who was returning from cancer treatment. Conner flourished, becoming a 1,000 yard rusher.

    None of the offenses mentioned above looked alike. At Northern Illinois, Canada favored spread sets and ran the ball with his quarterback. At Wisconsin, it was 22-personnel power football. At NC State, he threw the ball like it was going out of style. And at Pitt it was all of the above. The common thread that bound each of these offenses was Canada’s use of shifts, motions, tempos and read-options, all of which were effective at keeping defenses off balance and at creating advantages of leverage and numbers.

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    Re: Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    Of course, I know they will not change their entire offense but Canada could still add things that this offense haven't
    Let’s hope so!

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    Re: Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    Quote Originally Posted by polamalubeast View Post
    It would be nice to run more than one play out of a formation...


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    Re: Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    It would be nice to run more than one play out of a formation...
    Shut your dirty mouth! One play per formation was good enough for Knute Rockne. It's good enough for Randy Fichtner!

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    Re: Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    Has someone told the guy yet that we have FOUR downs in America?

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    Re: Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    Labatts 47 maple syrup Mountie 23 right... please.

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    Re: Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    Can someone please explain this infatuation with Maryland coaches and players?

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    Re: Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    Did I miss something? Those tweets from that Nick Farbaugh guy seem to indicate that Canada will be running the offense and putting in wheel routes and running a lot more empty sets. Has Tomlin somehow told him that the QB Coach is drawing up the offense, or is it just another opinion of a fantasy football writer with no truth to it?

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    Re: Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Did I miss something? Those tweets from that Nick Farbaugh guy seem to indicate that Canada will be running the offense and putting in wheel routes and running a lot more empty sets. Has Tomlin somehow told him that the QB Coach is drawing up the offense, or is it just another opinion of a fantasy football writer with no truth to it?
    It is growing increasingly common to have a coach on staff that is not the offensive coordinator but is heavily involved in drawing up plays and devising gameplans. Titles like "passsing game coordinator" or "run game coordinator" are starting to show up around the league. I think Munchak was a run game something or other before he left town.

    Farbaugh is taking it to the next step and speculating on what Canada would add to the existing offense based on his trends and preferences at prior stops. It has been a widely speculated position since his hiring was announced that he will be titled as the "quarterbacks coach" but his job will extend beyond just handling that position and he will have a heavy hand in offensive gameplan and design. As per usual, the team hasn't really said diddly-poo on the issue; so the space has been filled by Steelers pundits.

    Long story short - most are envisioning him as the offensive version of the Austin hire.

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    Re: Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    Did I miss something? Those tweets from that Nick Farbaugh guy seem to indicate that Canada will be running the offense and putting in wheel routes and running a lot more empty sets. Has Tomlin somehow told him that the QB Coach is drawing up the offense, or is it just another opinion of a fantasy football writer with no truth to it?
    He has watching the tape of his offenses in college ...The way Tomlin spoke, Canada is not going to be just a QB coach.Of course it is only some possibility on what could be added in this offense but we can have an idea of his offenses in College.

    We saw last year that Fitchner needs help for the creativity

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    Re: Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    Quote Originally Posted by Six Rings View Post
    Can someone please explain this infatuation with Maryland coaches and players?
    Players....nothing other than the numerous scouting reports and breakdowns in the multiple threads already available. As for Canada; everywhere he has gone the offense has performed better than the sum of its parts has said it should. He appears to have demonstrated that he can scheme up an offense, at least at the college level. So the Steelers are giving him his shot to break into the NFL...and technically he isn't a Maryland coach anymore...since they fired him and then the offense cratered...

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    I honestly think that he is going to (not intentionally) make a complete fool of Fitchner inside the exec. offices and locker room. This cat has more technical knowledge and the creativity to use it than RF could ever dream of. Whether it works out for our Steelers is yet to be seen, but I like what I am hearing.

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    Re: Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    The old "every drive matters " movement ? I'll get my shirt made up today .
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    Re: Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    11 Personnel: How the Pittsburgh Steelers utilize their favorite offensive group

    A deep dive into the Steelers’ usage of their favorite offensive personnel grouping.
    By cliff harris is still a punk! Jul 10, 2019, 9:32am EDT

    When most Steelers fans think of defensive schemes, they think of the 3-4. The Steelers were one of the first NFL teams to switch from the 4-3 to the 3-4 back in 1982 and they have run it as their base scheme ever since (calling the 3-4 their “base” these days might be a bit antiquated, but that’s a conversation for a different article. Like this one). The 3-4 conjures images of stout nose tackles, quarterback-hunting linebackers and a certain safety with a wild mane of hair flying around the field like a banshee. It has been as integral to the Steelers identity these past thirty-some years as the three perfect diamonds on their helmet.
    What about the Steelers offense, though? What is their base scheme? That’s a much harder question to answer. In professional football, offenses tend to be less system-based than at lower levels. In high school, teams often run easily identifiable schemes like the Wing-T or the Veer. In college, systems like the Air Raid, the Urban Meyer Spread and the Navy Triple Option are in vogue. In the NFL, however, teams are often said to run a “pro-style” scheme. This essentially means a zone and gap-based run game and a multitude of passing concepts out of various personnel groups and formations. In the NFL, being “multiple” is the scheme.
    A more useful way to identify offenses is by studying their personnel groups. In Pittsburgh, that means 11 personnel. In 2018, 68% of the Steelers offensive snaps came from this grouping. The Steelers like 11 so much that just three teams in the entire league - the Chargers, Bengals and Colts - had a higher percentage of snaps from it than the Steelers. The focus of this article, then, is to examine why the Steelers use 11 personnel so frequently, how they utilize it and how our off-season personnel changes might alter the deployment of offensive groupings in 2019.


    WHAT IS 11 PERSONNEL?
    As discussed recently in our Offensive Glossary, 11 personnel puts one back, one tight end and three receivers on the field (the numbering system refers to how many running backs and tight ends are employed in a particular grouping). Other personnel groups the Steelers used with some regularity last season included 22 (two backs, two tight ends), 12 (one back, two tight ends), 13 (one back, three tight ends) and 21 (two backs, one tight end). Those groups were used sparingly at best. 22 personnel was deployed 13% of the time, while 12, 13 and 21 were used just 8, 4 and 2%, respectively. These were situational groups or groups used to create favorable matchups. 11 personnel was clearly our base.

    Read the rest here: https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...-room-nfl-news






    This is an informative article from July 2019 with an explanation of the offense that was primarily run in 2018 with Ben as quarterback. It is mostly a breakdown of the Steelers offense in 11 Personnel, and there is film explaining formations, and the many variations of the formation. It explains some of the philosophical approach of 11 Personnel specific to quarterback play, and why the offense is meant to work with a QB that is capable of taking advantage of certain schematics. Anyway, I think it's a good read that may give a better idea how much of the offense will operate and look with Ben returning under center. Of course, I'm sure there will be adjustments and some tweaking, but it's a good way to remember what an actual offense looks like with good quarterback play as opposed to last season. What they do and any changes they make to the offense this year remains to be seen when football resumes. Hopefully, an effective running game will begin to reveal itself with more emphasis on running the rock with more play action and a team goal to be physical and have everyone actively involved in making that aspect of the game work. Think Mission Statement.

    I can dream, can't I?

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    Re: Mike Tomlin hints new Steelers QB coach Matt Canada has input on offense’s gameplan

    Steelers don't need to change their entire offense but they need to add things like more play action and more way to run the ball and things like that

    I also hope to see more throw in intermediate zone and that it happens more often that our receivers, TE or RB are wide open because of the scheme like the 49ers or the chiefs last year but it is perhaps too much to ask!

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