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    Hargrave is now an Eagle

    highest paid NT in the game as of now


    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles problem now

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    Re: Hargrave is now an Eagle

    Good for him getting paid. I'm glad he didn't go to an AFC team.

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    Re: Hargrave is now an Eagle

    Cox and Hargrave will cause havoc.

    Eagles plays at Pittsburgh this upcoming season.
    1. Graham Barton, C, Duke 2. Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida 3. Maason Smith, DT, LSU 3. Max Melton, CB, Rutgers 4. Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame 6. Tommy Eichenberg, ILB, Ohio State 6. MJ Devonshire, CB, Pittsburgh

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    Re: Hargrave is now an Eagle

    Eagles sign NT Javon Hargrave (3 years, $39 million): A Grade

    The Eagles needed a replacement if Timmy Jernigan departed in free agency, and they certainly found one. They signed Javon Hargrave in what seems to be an excellent move.

    Hargrave is a young nose tackle who stuffs the run extremely well and can also get after the quarterback. He projects as a terrific pairing with Fletcher Cox, and at $39 million for three years, this seems like a bargain, especially when compared to some of the other signings that occurred today. The Eagles may have missed out on Byron Jones, but this is a tremendous consolation prize.

    https://walterfootball.com/freeagentsigninggrades.php

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    Re: Hargrave is now an Eagle

    Shame, he was a good player. I'm sure that Eagles D will dominate

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    Re: Hargrave is now an Eagle

    Well, that sucks. He is going to flourish playing in that defense.

    When are people who report on this for a living going to remember that DT and NT are different things. Eagles don't play a 3-4.

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    Glad to see a good player get paid who simply was not going to be paid market rate by the Steelers with Heyward & Tuitt on the roster

    Could have been worse - PFF predicted last month that the Ravens would sign Hargrave

    https://triblive.com/sports/pro-foot...timore-ravens/

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    That was not as much as I had heard it rumored; I wish we had made a serious run at him. We are going to be in a world of hurt if either of our two remaining guys is out for any length of time.
    See you Space Cowboy ...

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    Re: Hargrave is now an Eagle

    we should get a good comp pick for him...

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    I see Buggs as the Hargrave replacement. Could still use a true NT in a 3-4 base, IMO, but I'm not the DC and this defense is playing well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    we should get a good comp pick for him...
    Yep, should be a 3rd. Pittsburgh won't be signing anyone that will offset the contract Hargrave signed.
    1. Graham Barton, C, Duke 2. Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida 3. Maason Smith, DT, LSU 3. Max Melton, CB, Rutgers 4. Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame 6. Tommy Eichenberg, ILB, Ohio State 6. MJ Devonshire, CB, Pittsburgh

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    He will be irrelevant if teams can pass quickly on the Eagles...which unless they fix the backend, it’s not going to be difficult to do.

    Good for him though. He was always one of my favorite “unsung heroes”.

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    Re: Hargrave is now an Eagle

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    He will be irrelevant if teams can pass quickly on the Eagles...which unless they fix the backend, it’s not going to be difficult to do.

    Good for him though. He was always one of my favorite “unsung heroes”.


    Nothing throws off a quarterback more than quick inside pressure. Cox and Hargrave are going to give teams fits IMO.

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    This stinks. He was a great piece of our rotation in there and got pressure.

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    Re: Hargrave is now an Eagle

    That's a shame for the Steelers good for the Eagles. He is a good player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    Nothing throws off a quarterback more than quick inside pressure. Cox and Hargrave are going to give teams fits IMO.
    But an offensive line that can old for 2-3 seconds will be successful against that. It’s the Steelers type slow developing style offenses that will have problems with that.

    Eagles need to sure up the backend next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    But an offensive line that can old for 2-3 seconds will be successful against that. It’s the Steelers type slow developing style offenses that will have problems with that.

    Eagles need to sure up the backend next.

    Only if they throw everything short. No team can throw everything short when playing against aggressive defenses that will press more to make the QB hold the ball. Cox is already a handful for teams all by himself. Adding Hargrave will really give them two guys that can disrupt and penetrate.

    Sure, teams will try to get the ball off quickly to negate that. But my point is that having that inside pressure will dictate what offenses can do against them, and that plays into the defense's hands. That's the cause/effect of having a matchup advantage, and that's what every team is hoping to have...particularly up the middle.

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    Re: Hargrave is now an Eagle

    And with Hargrave, Davis, Burns and Dirty Red gone, the 2016 Draft Class is all gone



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    Re: Hargrave is now an Eagle

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaiiansteeler View Post
    we should get a good comp pick for him...

    the only bright spot in all of this IMO
    Kenny Pickett is who I though he was .. Eagles problem now

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    Quote Originally Posted by tube517 View Post
    And with Hargrave, Davis, Burns and Dirty Red gone, the 2016 Draft Class is all gone
    Could be a bunch of Comp
    Picks though...

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    Re: Hargrave is now an Eagle

    Quote Originally Posted by 86WARD View Post
    Could be a bunch of Comp
    Picks though...
    True dat



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    Re: Hargrave is now an Eagle

    It's ok we still have Dupree. Hahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by pczach View Post
    Only if they throw everything short. No team can throw everything short when playing against aggressive defenses that will press more to make the QB hold the ball. Cox is already a handful for teams all by himself. Adding Hargrave will really give them two guys that can disrupt and penetrate.

    Sure, teams will try to get the ball off quickly to negate that. But my point is that having that inside pressure will dictate what offenses can do against them, and that plays into the defense's hands. That's the cause/effect of having a matchup advantage, and that's what every team is hoping to have...particularly up the middle.
    Tom Brady has made a living off of short and mid-range passes off a quick release and the only way he was stopped was pressure up the middle that would result from his receivers being disrupted.

    It’s not a bad thing having Cox and Hargrave by any means...that’s not what I am saying. The backend of the Eagles defense was horrendous. But that is all in the past.

    Eagles trading for Darrius Slay...lol. That’s gonna hurt someone teams...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeldude View Post
    It's ok we still have Dupree. Hahaha
    Which is more important to the roster at this point than Hargrave is at this time.

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    Re: Hargrave is now an Eagle

    I thought I saw the Seahawks released Al Woods. Might be a decent depth pickup. I think he still has 1 game suspension for PED use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson View Post
    I thought I saw the Seahawks released Al Woods. Might be a decent depth pickup. I think he still has 1 game suspension for PED use.
    Would make sense. The NT group in FA is drying up quickly. Andrew Billings signed with Cleveland for cheap.
    1. Graham Barton, C, Duke 2. Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida 3. Maason Smith, DT, LSU 3. Max Melton, CB, Rutgers 4. Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame 6. Tommy Eichenberg, ILB, Ohio State 6. MJ Devonshire, CB, Pittsburgh

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    Re: Hargrave is now an Eagle

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAndGold View Post
    Would make sense. The NT group in FA is drying up quickly. Andrew Billings signed with Cleveland for cheap.
    Don't know if they can afford any of these guys:

    Mike Daniels - had an injury marred 2019. But was last seen playing pretty well in 2018.
    Timmy Jernigan - he's big. He mostly stuffs the run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Don't know if they can afford any of these guys:

    Mike Daniels - had an injury marred 2019. But was last seen playing pretty well in 2018.
    Timmy Jernigan - he's big. He mostly stuffs the run.
    Damon Harrison - he will be cheap as a 32 year old after a poor season.

    So basically a pick of over 30 ex-Lions with injury concerns or the guy the Eagles cut to get Hargrave into the line-up.

    In a perfect world where everything works out great, Mike Daniels signs and returns to his form from his time in Green Bay and just is a complete anchor in the middle of a 3 man line.

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    Re: Hargrave is now an Eagle

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojouw View Post
    Don't know if they can afford any of these guys:

    Mike Daniels - had an injury marred 2019. But was last seen playing pretty well in 2018.
    Timmy Jernigan - he's big. He mostly stuffs the run.
    I like Jernigan but he's been dealing with a lot of injuries lately. He would come cheap if I had to guess.

    Just remembered that Dontari Poe is a FA, would be nice to land him. Not sure about his price. (He was loved by this fan base leading up to the 2012 draft)

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    All I know is this team better be ready to defend the run. Every team in the division has talented running backs, and the Ravens have the #1 rushing attack in the NFL.
    1. Graham Barton, C, Duke 2. Ricky Pearsall, WR, Florida 3. Maason Smith, DT, LSU 3. Max Melton, CB, Rutgers 4. Blake Fisher, OT, Notre Dame 6. Tommy Eichenberg, ILB, Ohio State 6. MJ Devonshire, CB, Pittsburgh

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    Re: Hargrave is now an Eagle

    Damnnnnnnnn I loved grave digger.

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    Re: Hargrave is now an Eagle

    This could possibly be one of the biggest gaffes as a “non-signing” in Steelers history…

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