Pastrami's way too early mock - 2023

[Pastrami]

1) Olumuyiwa Fashanu, OT, Penn State

2a) Henry To'o To'o, ILB, Alabama (Bears pick)

2b) John Michael Schmitz, C, Minnesota (Steelers pick)

3) Mazi Smith, DT, Michigan

4) Nick Hampton, Edge, App State

5) No Pick

6) No pick

7a.) Jack Nelson, G, Wisconsin

7b.) Tyler Hudson, WR, Louisville

[teegre]

I like the idea (OL & DL).

[Dwinsgames]

wouldnt be my way of doing things ...

no way I pick a OT in the top 10 ... we rarely select that high so you have to get a difference maker with that selection ...

if you want to go OT in round 1 trade down get more picks to address other needs as well (and there are plenty of needs)

[Pastrami]

The game is won and lost in the trenches.

[Dwinsgames]

The game is won and lost in the trenches.

it often is , that said you can trade back and get great trench workers at 15 and more quality picks to address other needs in this and or the next draft (or both)

[Mojouw]

I have not taken the time to study this list in any detail. But are there a great # of high end starting LT's taken outside of the top 10?

https://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/t

I'm sure I am just not thinking of it, but I can not come up with a long list of All-Pro caliber guys that didn't go fairly high in round 1.

And as much as I would like the Steelers to consider taking an "elite" LT (whatever that means) with a really high draft pick...does anyone really see them doing that? I think they see Moore and Chuks as their bookends.

[polamalubeast]

I would wait in the second round to take a OT

[Mojouw]

I would wait in the second round to take a OT

Again.... I will ask the question so the memories of others can help me out.

Are you getting a significant upgrade on Dan Moore Jr in the late first or early second round?

[Pastrami]

The OL is garbage right now. You try and replace at least 2 or 3 of them this draft. I don't think Carter (DL) will be there when we pick. He would be tempting.

[polamalubeast]

Again.... I will ask the question so the memories of others can help me out.

Are you getting a significant upgrade on Dan Moore Jr in the late first or early second round?

This is possible but I don't know much the players right now for the 2023 draft.The free agency can be a option too if the steelers are ready to paid over 10-15 millions at this position.

[teegre]

The OL is garbage right now. You try and replace at least 2 or 3 of them this draft. I don't think Carter (DL) will be there when we pick. He would be tempting.

Yep… and YES!!!

(Alas, depending on when we pick, Carter likely isn’t there.)

[hawaiiansteeler]

1) Olumuyiwa Fashanu, OT, Penn State

2a) Henry To'o To'o, ILB, Alabama (Bears pick)

2b) John Michael Schmitz, C, Minnesota (Steelers pick)

3) Mazi Smith, DT, Michigan

4) Nick Hampton, Edge, App State

5) No Pick

6) No pick

7a.) Jack Nelson, G, Wisconsin

7b.) Tyler Hudson, WR, Louisville

Chucktownsteeler, is this you?

either it is or you totally plagiarized his mock draft...

[Rotorhead]

I think we get 2 OL upgrades and a DL with our first 3 picks. We need to upgrade the OL as much as possible as fast as possible. If that means trading out of the top 5 and picking up an extra 2nd rounder with a lower 1st, then let’s do it. That would get us 4 picks in the first 2 rounds, that could fix the OL, add depth to the DL and ILB. We need to resign Ogunjobi and it would be nice if we could bring back gravedigger in FA also.

[86WARD]

Steelers won’t have a Top-10 pick.

[hawaiiansteeler]

I think we get 2 OL upgrades and a DL with our first 3 picks. We need to upgrade the OL as much as possible as fast as possible. If that means trading out of the top 5 and picking up an extra 2nd rounder with a lower 1st, then let’s do it. That would get us 4 picks in the first 2 rounds, that could fix the OL, add depth to the DL and ILB. We need to resign Ogunjobi and it would be nice if we could bring back gravedigger in FA also.

we badly need a #1 CB and ILB also.

[Dwinsgames]

we badly need a #1 CB and ILB also.

thats why I am so set on trading down , we need several pieces , so take the later pick get the 2nd best player at the pos and add the 2nd best at another and third best at another ... they all should equate to better pieces then we have and takes starting jobs making the team better across the board ...

I personally would rather have the 2nd best LT and Best RT over the best LT and still have chuks (per example) ... Chuks is an awesome next man up on either side but he isnt a full time starter on most teams as he does not do anything exceptionally well (except perhaps hold)

[86WARD]

thats why I am so set on trading down , we need several pieces , so take the later pick get the 2nd best player at the pos and add the 2nd best at another and third best at another ... they all should equate to better pieces then we have and takes starting jobs making the team better across the board ...

I personally would rather have the 2nd best LT and Best RT over the best LT and still have chuks (per example) ... Chuks is an awesome next man up on either side but he isnt a full time starter on most teams as he does not do anything exceptionally well (except perhaps hold)

They won’t trade down.

[Dwinsgames]

They won’t trade down.

based on what?

Have we ever witnessed an Omar Kahn run draft room ?

we should have zero preconceived ideas on how he will operate until he had a few drafts under his belt , there are no trends

[Dwinsgames]

did a mock over at PFN and some wheelin and dealin and came away with a basically new O-Line and still got us a quality LB DT S and WR along with a 1st round bonus pick next year ...

Trading back a few picks then back again to 14

14) Broderick Jones OT Georgia

28) O'Cyrus Torrence OG Florida

38) John Michael Schmitz OC Minnesota

52) Saiki Ika DT Baylor

68) Demani Richardson S Texas A&M

81) Owen Pappoe LB Auburn

91) Rashee Rice WR SMU

2024 Denver 1st

[DesertSteel]

based on what?

Have we ever witnessed an Omar Kahn run draft room ?

we should have zero preconceived ideas on how he will operate until he had a few drafts under his belt , there are no trends

Weidl is the guy whose track record should be studied. Kahn will defer to his expertise.

[Born2Steel]

The thing is, this draft has zero of those 'freak' players so far on the OL. And the only one on the DL so far is Jalen Carter. There are guys that are supposed to be good players but the freak-type can't miss prospects are missing. If the Steelers do pick in the top10, I don't know who I would want yet.

Best OL by far according to reading the internet is Pete Skoronski. Listed as a 6'4"-295lbs OT, which is why he is expected to move inside to OG in the NFL. Personally, I would welcome this pick but you can see it would be a reach taking a guy and playing him at a different position than what got him drafted so high.
OSU's Paris Johnson is the highest rated NFL-sized OT. Some have him top10 but most have him outside the top10. That tells me he's not a 'can't miss' player. Not yet at least.

Best DL on every draft board I can find is Jalen Carter. 6'3" and 315lbs. His numbers from '20/'21 is 36 tackles and 3 sacks. I haven't caught up to the hype yet. How is his length?

As of today, I would love to trade back out of the top10 and hopefully gain some additional top 50/75 picks in the trade.

[DesertSteel]

I’ll take a pass on Alabama players in rounds 1-2.

[Born2Steel]

Who is this year's 'Sauce' Gardner?

[86WARD]

based on what?

Have we ever witnessed an Omar Kahn run draft room ?

we should have zero preconceived ideas on how he will operate until he had a few drafts under his belt , there are no trends

Based on ever…

[teegre]

Who is this year's 'Sauce' Gardner?

It is a "pick'em" type of draft for CBs.

Kelee Ringo (Georgia) is probably the top-rated corner.

Peezy Jr. (Penn St) is my choice... and linked to the Steelers (obviously). His lineage aside, he has had 250+ coverage snaps and given up zero TDs (and a passer-rating of 59.1 allowed).

[Born2Steel]

It is a "pick'em" type of draft for CBs.

Kelee Ringo (Georgia) is probably the top-rated corner.

Peezy Jr. (Penn St) is my choice... and linked to the Steelers (obviously). His lineage aside, he has had 250+ coverage snaps and given up zero TDs (and a passer-rating of 59.1 allowed).

And you have to know a Joey Porter Jr would be a very willing tackler.

[polamalubeast]

Ryan Clark Not Ruling Out Steelers Drafting Quarterback In 2023

https://steelersdepot.com/2022/11/ry...rback-in-2023/

The steelers can't close the door for that.....

[86WARD]

If they have a Top-3 pick and can get a star QB. I draft one and then try to trade Pickett to Minnesota (or another future QB needy team) for a second round pick…Minnesota, Tampa, commanders, Giants, Seahawks, etc. there’s plenty out there that someone may hand over a 2 for him.

[Born2Steel]

If they have a Top-3 pick and can get a star QB. I draft one and then try to trade Pickett to Minnesota (or another future QB needy team) for a second round pick…Minnesota, Tampa, commanders, Giants, Seahawks, etc. there’s plenty out there that someone may hand over a 2 for him.

Keep Pickett. Trubisky, AND new rookie QB. Plenty of time to make trades later. If you plan to trade Pickett straight away for another hopeful, just trade the top3 pick and get more in trade.

[Born2Steel]

It is a "pick'em" type of draft for CBs.

Kelee Ringo (Georgia) is probably the top-rated corner.

Peezy Jr. (Penn St) is my choice... and linked to the Steelers (obviously). His lineage aside, he has had 250+ coverage snaps and given up zero TDs (and a passer-rating of 59.1 allowed).

With drafting CBs, I would think experience and even taking an older guy would be safer than the Steelers usual younger prospect philosophy. The more snaps a DB has in college the better IMO. Maybe every other position group on the field you might prefer the younger guy with everything else equal. But go with the more experienced guy at DB.