Will the Coming Season be Different Because of COVID-19?

[Mojouw]

Redlined neighborhoods are still the highest poverty and crime areas in most major American cities. While the law was changed, the practice continued in overt and covert ways. And still does to this day. But, even assume that it never happened past the middle 1960s; that's still how many generations that couldn't benefit from building that sweet sweet suburban wealth. That's likely had zero impact.

[Craic]

Redlined neighborhoods are still the highest poverty and crime areas in most major American cities. While the law was changed, the practice continued in overt and covert ways. And still does to this day. But, even assume that it never happened past the middle 1960s; that's still how many generations that couldn't benefit from building that sweet sweet suburban wealth. That's likely had zero impact.

I have no argument with the idea that the inner cities are still suffering the effects of redlining. What I have a problem with is the author misrepresenting the article he sourced so that anyone who doesn't check sources will come away with the belief that there's hard and fast evidence of redlining today. It's dishonest.

And, as for redlining today, no, it does not happen. The historical practice of sectioning off parts of a city or community by marking red lines on a map and stating "We will not loan in those areas" is over. Are there other practices that try to achieve the same results? I'm sure there is. But by the strict definition of redlining (rather than the way it's been stretched), it does not happen today. That is a victory we should celebrate even while we need to focus on how we can counter the effects.

Speaking of the way redlining still affects people, I would argue that the major problem with redlining in the last century was that it sectioned off areas in which banks wouldn't loan money, which means no one could get a loan to open small businesses or to open a labor-shop of any kind. All of those businesses were driven out (or kept out) of the neighborhoods as well. That created a cesspool of poverty because wealth could not flow into the community. It had to flow out by definition as people had to go outside of the community to buy what they wanted (except for the few mom and pop stores that somehow could open during those times).

[tom444]

Okay, it's one thing to present truth. It's another to present an opinion piece from a blog that has a spurious association with its sources, and then claim it is truth.

• Refused loans . . . This is a horrendous piece of misinformation. The article puts this statement in present tense. The problem? The link is to an article discussing redlining, which was outlawed in 1968. Redlining ended over half a century ago.

• "Stopped and Frisked." The blog misrepresents the article. At the very beginning of the article, they state plainly that the reason most cited is "furtive moments." Do I agree with that? No. But it isn't like they're walking up to a black person that was just walking down the street listening to headphones and throw that person up against a wall.

• "Anatomy." Oh, come on. At this point, anyone who really cares about "truth" should stop reading the blog. The linked article is about a police chief explaining that they've recently learned there's differences in how arteries work and blood flows, and the recovery after a chokehold. The chief made an unfortunate statement of "normal" for those who recover faster (more likely white people). This isn't justification for killing a black person. It's an explanation of what they are learning. Moreover, the article itself is about the "moral outrage" of the use of "normal."

• "One analysis of the national database..." This is an awful, fallacious piece of logic here. He cites an article, then pairs it with a statement on Black America to push the idea that death of blacks are vastly underreported. That's the exact opposite of the conclusion. I'll quote from the conclusion. "There was no evidence suggesting that underreporting varied by death investigator type (medical examiner versus coroner) or race/ethnicity."

• "Charging document." Well, the link is broken and the blog gives no indication of who reported about the document. That means this is an unsourced assertion at this point.

• "Falsely overstated." What? Um, no. Here's what it said. "The autopsy revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation. Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease. The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.
  
  In other words, there are three things that look to have had a hand in his death. That's not an overstatement. It's a well-measured statement on possibility. Moreover, if someone was play rhetorical games, they'd write it as, "The combined effects of the underlying conditions, and potential intoxicants likely contributed to his death along with the actions of the officer." But, note the police actions were first.
  
  The author then goes on with this great piece of horrid logic that "artery disease and hypertension . . . increase the risk of stroke and heart attack over years, not minutes." Um, yeah, and then that risk remains elevated so that when a person's heart rate spikes, they're more likely to have a heart attack. It's the past damage that is currently present that causes the risk.

• "Other physician groups." This is a reference to the "Collective Black Physicians Statement." Repeat after me, everyone, "Confirmation Bias." I don't doubt what the physicians are saying is true. I point this out to show how the author of this article has no clue how to properly uses sources. Find an unbiased study that says the same thing. Call up a few physicians and interview them.

• "Autopsy reports are manipulated to bury police violence." Um, this is a link to an opinion piece. Oh, and one that's also behind a paywall. It is not a legitimate source.

• "And uphold white supremacy." Again, a link to an opinion piece. And, ironically, vastly overstated. The article title? "Autopsies can uphold white supremacy." Now, the author is a scholar, but opinion pieces are not peer-reviewed pieces. They do not serve as a good source.

There were others, but I decided to stop here.

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This "writer" would fail any freshman 100 level course I teach. You simply cannot use sources in a spurious way and attempt to be taken seriously. Especially when some of your sources say nothing of what you're trying to say, and at least one says the exact opposite. Moreover, it's this kind of crap that makes people doubt anything they read on the topic (which is, itself, a cognitive distortion of all-or-nothing thinking).

Look, is there racism in this country? Yes. But it's become the go-to card anytime there's a confrontation between a white person and someone of a different race. And, one of the very sources used in the article above specifically says that underreporting does not differ between races.

What you and many others are missing here is that there's two questions. 1. Was the police officer's actions driven by race. 2. Was the following investigation driven by race. I can't answer the first one. As for the second one, if you want to prove it was driven by race, then compare the way this report was handled with the way reports from other black people and the deaths of white people in police custody are handled. Until that is done, there's as much if not more possibility that the underlying point of view was, "Oh crap, we better make ourselves look less guilty" and not "Oh well, he's a black person so it's okay."

I tried to read your post using your supplied gaslight but it was too bright.

[Mojouw]

I have no argument with the idea that the inner cities are still suffering the effects of redlining. What I have a problem with is the author misrepresenting the article he sourced so that anyone who doesn't check sources will come away with the belief that there's hard and fast evidence of redlining today. It's dishonest.

And, as for redlining today, no, it does not happen. The historical practice of sectioning off parts of a city or community by marking red lines on a map and stating "We will not loan in those areas" is over. Are there other practices that try to achieve the same results? I'm sure there is. But by the strict definition of redlining (rather than the way it's been stretched), it does not happen today. That is a victory we should celebrate even while we need to focus on how we can counter the effects.

Speaking of the way redlining still affects people, I would argue that the major problem with redlining in the last century was that it sectioned off areas in which banks wouldn't loan money, which means no one could get a loan to open small businesses or to open a labor-shop of any kind. All of those businesses were driven out (or kept out) of the neighborhoods as well. That created a cesspool of poverty because wealth could not flow into the community. It had to flow out by definition as people had to go outside of the community to buy what they wanted (except for the few mom and pop stores that somehow could open during those times).

Certainly. The barrier to building generational wealth in both families and communities has had dramatic impacts that are still playing out.

[FrancoLambert]

I saw the third guy from the left working at the Walmart deli counter last week.

[Mach1]

I tried to read your post using your supplied gaslight but it was too bright.

Because your a dimwit.

[tom444]

Because your a dimwit.

Gee, what a clever remark. You must be a Trump voter.

Here are some of your friends:

[Steeldude]

Not likely - the actual list is more like:

Most deaths:
#1 - China
#2 - India
#3 - USA

Most cases:
#1 - China
#2 - India
#3 - USA

Only difference is, one of those countries uses retarded ways of tracking and reporting it, in order to make it seem like a huge crisis.

Guess how many people died from COVID-19 in the U.S.? I've got news for you, it's not 200,000.

Did you expect liberals to answer that question? Haha. Liberals believe anything CNN orders them to believe.

[silver & black]

https://youtu.be/SkJPDXrlP6w

[tom444]

silver & black:

https://youtu.be/SkJPDXrlP6w

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[FrancoLambert]

So the Orange Stable Genius finally declared the Covid-19 pandemic over, and a thing of the past.

The surge in hospitalizations must be due to infected toenails.

Presidential adviser Jared Kushner said, “they’re a silent killer.”

[Mach1]

Funny how the death rate of the flu is down 98% this year. Because it's being counted as omg it's covid.
Live in fear.

[steelreserve]

Funny how the death rate of the flu is down 98% this year. Because it's being counted as omg it's covid.
Live in fear.

Hey, remember that time when the only reason to have any restrictions was to buy time to make sure the hospitals weren't overflowing? And then that never happened or got anywhere close, but they kept the restrictions? Oh man, that was a good one. They sure got us!

[st33lersguy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctyLaABPMF4

Oh so the GDP is setting records for economic growth. 33.1% growth, a new record. Even while some COVID restrictions still remain. Hmm.

[steelcityboyz]

Who else predicted a massive surge of the China virus as the closer it gets to election day? Like Mach said live in fear like a good lib does.

[Mach1]

[silver & black]

Hey, remember that time when the only reason to have any restrictions was to buy time to make sure the hospitals weren't overflowing? And then that never happened or got anywhere close, but they kept the restrictions? Oh man, that was a good one. They sure got us!

....and they are suggesting they will get us even more.................. Epoch Times had an article that claimed "they" want to shut down for 18 months. Masks to be worn any time you are out, only travel permitted will be essentials like groceries, pharmacy, Dr, visits. Interstate travel will be limited to essential workers and emergency only travel.

Sounds like a great plan to get this country going again!...

[Steeldude]

And remember, you don’t have to have COVID to be listed as dying from COVID.

[steelreserve]

....and they are suggesting they will get us even more.................. Epoch Times had an article that claimed "they" want to shut down for 18 months. Masks to be worn any time you are out, only travel permitted will be essentials like groceries, pharmacy, Dr, visits. Interstate travel will be limited to essential workers and emergency only travel.

Sounds like a great plan to get this country going again!...

Killing off the private sector; only government-approved businesses are permitted to operate; only government-approved activities are allowed. And of course, only government-approved information can be shared. What system does that sound like? It's for your own good, comrade!

There are no maybes about it - that IS what's at stake. And we're being gaslighted to believe that's overwhelmingly what people want. Disgusting.

[Mach1]

And remember, you don’t have to have COVID to be listed as dying from COVID.

Update from CDC
Of the 220,000 deaths reported as due to COVID, the actual cause was:
88,208 - pneumonia & influenza
17, 799 - chronic respiratory disease
26, 365 - respiratory distress synd.
44, 261 - hypertensive disease
23, 275 - heart disease
28, 000 - cardiac arrest
6892 - other cardiac, renal, cerebrovascular diseases, diabetes, sepsis, cancer, obesity & dementia.
Only 6% (13,200) of those who were reported as dying from COVID ACTUALLY died from COVID. 130k of total deaths were patients who already had life ending diseases.
More than 10k of the 13,200 who died from COVID were already on Hospice care. Doctors speculate these patients were critically ill & likely died from a preexisting condition.
The CARES Act, passed by Congress, gives hospitals a 20% bonus on their diagnosis related group paid for by Medicare.
Doctors are being paid to list deaths as COVID w/o ANY indication the patient's death was COVID related. Around 3,000 have actually died from COVID alone. This report has been officially published by the CDC.

[Mach1]

[tom444]

[Mach1]

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Wasnt Covid-19 supposed to end November 4th??

Nov. 6 had 126,480 new cases and 1,146 new deaths in the United States.

According to Johns Hopkins
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/united-states

[Mach1]

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

[FrancoLambert]

Wasnt Covid-19 supposed to end November 4th??

Nov. 6 had 126,480 new cases and 1,146 new deaths in the United States.

According to Johns Hopkins
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/united-states

Fake news. The end, not the surge.

[FrancoLambert]

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Why are you worried about Biden controlling the virus. Your hero declared it a hoax so you must believe it.

However, he will take action to mitigate its effects by listening to experienced epidemiologists...the same ones your hero trashed.

[Mach1]

Lol plagiarism is one of his talents also leading from behind. Good luck with that.

[FrancoLambert]

Lol plagiarism is one of his talents also leading from behind. Good luck with that.

Plagiarism...dodging the draft with debilitating bone spurs...you come off as a patriot...what’s worse?

As for leading...please...look at what Trump’s leadership has done to this country.